Cannot locate correct ammo

[Hawk-in-Wi]

Denyse said:


NOT once have I ever gotten even close to what I am told they can.

What does this part mean? It might be the key since your original post doesn't really even say what the failure is. It's odd so many people offered advice when the concern with the gun is not stated clearly. What were you told what could get close to?

I think he means this >>>>>>>

each time I am told that they replaced the barrel and were able to fire 30 rounds perfectly without any failures to feed, or misfires.

 

[1gunsnotenough]

Well I guess I'll get the one out I picked up awhile back and see if it works.

 

[Hankus]

Out of shear boredom this morning, I looked up what the User manual for the LCPII says:



All this means is that you can't/shouldn't load .22Short, .22 Long, .22wmr, or sub-sonic/match .22lr ammo. Therefore, any commonly available .22 LR with an advertised MV above approx 1100 fps. should be just fine. This is no different than just about any other .22lr semi-auto pistol on the market.

With this being said, my MkIV 22/45 Lite AND my son’s MkIII 22/45 Tactical cycle CCI Quiet rounds 100% of the time with a Dead Air Mask suppressor.

 

[hittman]

Why would they replace the barrel?

 

[Sam Summey]

I currently am working with a customer and Ruger concerning a LCP II 22 that the customer says locks open before the magazine is empty. I tested the complaint using Aguila Super Extra 22 LR 40 gr ammo. I fired 100 rounds and experienced 3 slide locks. I had installed a Hogue Handall on the grip. the HH makes the grip a little fatter but moves the thumb farther away from the slide and the slide lock.. Remember this is a petite little handgun, men have big hands with chunky fingers.

In another case I sold a Walther PPKs to a guy who was better than 6' 2" with hands the size of Mickey Mantle's glove. He complained about failure to fully cycle when fired. I gave him his money back and resold the gun to a more normal sized man. He has had no problems with the firearm cycling. The big guy's index thumb of his left hand touched the slide impeding the slide operation.

 

[GunnyGene]

With this being said, my MkIV 22/45 Lite AND my son's MkIII 22/45 Tactical cycle CCI Quiet rounds 100% of the time with a Dead Air Mask suppressor.

Suppressor effects do matter.

 

[rammerjammer]

LCP 22 doesn't require premium ammo. Mine has 7000 rounds of bulk ammo through it, mostly Federal Automatch.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

I have the same problem with Glock's, I know many people love them but cannot empty a mag without a FTF

I'm not a huge Glock fanboy.....but I've never hand any issues with my G19 or G40. Glocks are well known for reliability, durability and easy to use in training.

I do not seem to have any problems with my old service .45 Colt.

I just wanted a small .22lr for cheap plinking.

CAREFUL!!! saying .45 Colt could cause a tidal wave of responses and/or a 200 reply thread....that could be resurrected years from now and yet again have a .45 Colt debate.....of course, as the saying goes...."they will know what you mean no matter what you call it"

As for a LCP used as a plinker, I would have gone another route as that pistol is not intended to be a plinker.

It's hard to limp wrist a .45.

Since we all know you are referring to a 1911......I respectfully disagree from experience as a Small Arms Marksmanship Instructor who spent countless hours with remedial shooter who could not qualify for even a basic watch stander course. Several reasons....one of the top being limp wrist causing stoppages and inaccuracy. Hell during the Desert Shield build up we had some reservists drop the 1911.

For re-cocking a .22 LR semi you need whatever gas pressure that little cartridge can produce, so you want higher velocity only

Obviously you haven't had any experience with finer 22LR pistols, especially target pistols. You certainly don't want higher velocity.

 

[s4s4u]

I do not seem to have any problems with my old service .45 Colt. I should mention at this point that I was in the Army for 20 years, and qualified in Pistol. Also, I have had a two friends both of which are ex military and swear by their M&Ps try it and both have the exact same frustrating aggravation with it.

I have also had no problems at all when shooting their combined group of M&Ps .380, 9mm, 10mm .30 Super Carry, .40, 357 sig, and .45

I just wanted a small .22lr for cheap plinking.

It is odd to have to "un-bold" text to highlight in a quote.

Why d you type in bold text all the time?

I would suggest buying a Taurus TX-22 if you want cheap reliable plinking.

 

[Mobuck]

"With this being said, my MkIV 22/45 Lite AND my son's MkIII 22/45 Tactical cycle CCI Quiet rounds 100% of the time with a Dead Air Mask suppressor."
The use of 'QUIET' ammo is unnecessary and actually counterproductive for use with a suppressor. Nothing is gained by going slower than the 'sub-sonic' thresh hold.

 

[OMCHamlin]

Out of shear boredom this morning, I looked up what the User manual for the LCPII says:



All this means is that you can't/shouldn't load .22Short, .22 Long, .22wmr, or sub-sonic/match .22lr ammo. Therefore, any commonly available .22 LR with an advertised MV above approx 1100 fps. should be just fine. This is no different than just about any other .22lr semi-auto pistol on the market.

Makes me wonder if the phone tech told him correctly, or if he heard the phone tech person correctly? I would strongly consider that I heard "Just try nothing but CCI Mini-Mag plated solid point high velocity bullets" for a couple of range sessions and then see if the trend is starting to get better. Also, 22's like to be a little wet so don't be stingy with a little light gun oil. Have several friends try it shooting as well. Note their results and get back to us with what you observe. That LCP II .22 is one I've wanted for a while, but with two MKIIIs, a Beretta Bobcat, a KelTec P17, + my wifes .22 pistols and revolvers, I'm well covered with ones that work.

 

[vito]

The first time I took my new Ruger LCPII, 22LR to the range I had constant FTF and FTE, using bulk, cheap ammo (Winchester if I recall). Some folks advised trying CCI Stingers so I bought several boxes. After a good cleaning and a return to the range I fired six magazines full without a single failure. I plan on trying the CCI Mini Mags next, but I am very comfortable keeping the gun loaded with Stingers now.

 

[jav]

I have an LCP II in .22lr. I have sent my pistol in for repair 5 times, each time I am told that they replaced the barrel and were able to fire 30 rounds perfectly without any failures to feed, or misfires. AND that I should only use CCI STANDARD VELOCITY ammunition. I have purchased this ammo at every location within an hours drive of my home.

I have a lcp2 22lr for about a year actually it's my gunsmith gun I couldn't send it to ruger or never did I had a problem with the slide not going forward so I took it a part and not just polished the feed ramp but took off quite a bit of metal and then polished it works great now no issues put 200 rds through it last week I use only cci mini mags 136 and 140 both work fine I tried lots of different ammo mini mags is the only one that works in my gun good luck

 

[Johnnu2]

Shoot the snot out of it with Mini-Mags..... after 487 round break-in, you will have a 100% reliable gun. TRUST ME ON THIS

J.

 

[arfmel]

This is the stuff we’re referring to. It should be much easier to find and more reliable than the standard velocity stuff

 

[GunnyGene]

This is the stuff we're referring to. It should be much easier to find and more reliable than the standard velocity stuff
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Yep, good stuff. Got a couple thousand rnds of it.

 

[kmoore]

I am like others guessing about many things post #1 stated. But I am betting he misunderstood the Ruger factory guy about use only SV ammo. He should have said never use SV ammo only HV ammo. With that statement, CCI mini mag HV had better function great if not the shooter has issues. Or the gun needs to be returned for a new gun.
But not being on the firing line to watch the shooter, who knows why?

 

[peachhead]

I would suggest buying a Taurus TX-22 if you want cheap reliable plinking.

I second that, I have one that I shoot suppressed. It is pretty fun and was a lot cheaper than a mk IV Lite.

 

[Cofaler]

Why would they replace the barrel?

I wonder if the OP is dry firing it a lot and peening the chamber? Ruger would replace the barrel I assume.

 

[Cofaler]

It would also explain why the problem is reoccurring, but you would think Ruger would address the issue with the owner if that were the case.

 

[GasGuzzler]

SV works way better in my Marlin Model 60 that Mini-Mags but we still don't really know what the OP needs help with.

 

[OMCHamlin]

Well, I suspect the original poster has said his piece and is long gone, so let's all just stay here and hash his problem over until he comes back...

 

[JBP]

What ammo issues did you experience with your .30 Carbine Blackhawk??

The cylinder would lock up because the next round in the cylinder would back out after firing. It was an issue with the base pin. The gun smith I talked to said that they use PPU. Switched to that and haven't had a problem since.

 

[jkingrph]

You could also be "weak-handling" it. I know it sounds crazy but some automatic pistols will not cycle correctly if you don't hold them firmly with a stiff wrist.

Yes, back when I was in USAF reserve, one weekend a few of us brought some handguns to shoot at the Barksdale range. I had a Colt Delta Gold Cup, 10mm. I never had a problem, one friend shot it, no problems. Then another who was a former police officer who had shot revolvers got constant jams, We quickly noticed he was limp wristing, not hold the gun solidly. When he changed, it worked for him.. I don't know how critical this is with a .22LR semi auto. I only have a S&W M41 target pistol and never had any problems, and a S&W M&P .22Mag. I have not shot the .22Mag very much, but no problems with it.