Cannot locate correct ammo

[Denyse]

I have an LCP II in .22lr. I have sent my pistol in for repair 5 times, each time I am told that they replaced the barrel and were able to fire 30 rounds perfectly without any failures to feed, or misfires. AND that I should only use CCI STANDARD VELOCITY ammunition. I have purchased this ammo at every location within an hours drive of my home. NOT once have I ever gotten even close to what I am told they can. Could someone who has a contact with the people at Ruger please find out for me, where I can purchase the exact same ammuntion that they use, so I too can get that reliability? My thanks in advance for any assistance,

 

[ArizonaTea123]

You could also be "weak-handling" it. I know it sounds crazy but some automatic pistols will not cycle correctly if you don't hold them firmly with a stiff wrist.

 

[eveled]

Have you had someone else shoot it?

Maybe it's an operator issue somehow?

No offense meant, but it is a variable you can eliminate.

Arizona tea was beat me out while I was typing. I was thinking limp wrist or some interaction with the slide stop or slide

 

[GunnyGene]

I agree the the above. I doubt your experience is due to the ammo or the gun. Limp wristing or other poor handling technique is common, especially with new shooters.

 

[bedfordboy]

I have the same problem with Glock’s, I know many people love them but cannot empty a mag without a FTF

 

[eveled]

I have the same problem with Glock's, I know many people love them but cannot empty a mag without a FTF

Same here. No problem with any other brand.

 

[Denyse]

I do not seem to have any problems with my old service .45 Colt. I should mention at this point that I was in the Army for 20 years, and qualified in Pistol. Also, I have had a two friends both of which are ex military and swear by their M&Ps try it and both have the exact same frustrating aggravation with it.

I have also had no problems at all when shooting their combined group of M&Ps .380, 9mm, 10mm .30 Super Carry, .40, 357 sig, and .45

I just wanted a small .22lr for cheap plinking.

 

[hittman]

I couldn’t get 1 entire magazine of any type ammo through mine without a problem of some sort.

 

[OMCHamlin]

I do not seem to have any problems with my old service .45 Colt. I should mention at this point that I was in the Army for 20 years, and qualified in Pistol. Also, I have had a two friends both of which are ex military and swear by their M&Ps try it and both have the exact same frustrating aggravation with it.

I have also had no problems at all when shooting their combined group of M&Ps .380, 9mm, 10mm .30 Super Carry, .40, 357 sig, and .45

I just wanted a small .22lr for cheap plinking.

Well, with all those years of Army experience, and even being "pistol qualified" you should know that what applies to one system, MAY not exactly apply to another, even though they are both very similar looking. The little Ruger LCP II .22 may need breaking in some more, but if it's gone back five times, you may just need to get rid of it and go buy another one brand. I recommend the Kel Tec P17, or even a Ruger MK IV. And I'll tell you something else, NO .22 pistol should be considered worth a crap if it can only be counted on to function properly with ONE brand and specific style and speed out of several hundred available choices of .22 lr ammo available today. You can ONLY use CCI Standard Velocity 40 gr .22LR in your little Ruger? That's BS, and Ruger should be ashamed.

 

[ArizonaTea123]

Try some HOT 22lr, like the Federal "Punch".

 

[arfmel]

Mine works flawlessly with CCI Mini Mag.

 

[hittman]

Do people still fall for the “breaking in” fallacy?

 

[OMCHamlin]

Do people still fall for the "breaking in" fallacy?

It's actually pretty well thought out policy, they tell you "don't count on it until you've had 500 rounds through it without failure" Your average Joe Schmo will lose interest, they service the rest who whine about it. Percentages...

 

[eveled]

I do not seem to have any problems with my old service .45 Colt. I should mention at this point that I was in the Army for 20 years, and qualified in Pistol. Also, I have had a two friends both of which are ex military and swear by their M&Ps try it and both have the exact same frustrating aggravation with it.

I have also had no problems at all when shooting their combined group of M&Ps .380, 9mm, 10mm .30 Super Carry, .40, 357 sig, and .45

I just wanted a small .22lr for cheap plinking.

We meant no disrespect. Just trying to help.

Sounds like you and the little gun have irreconcilable differences. Send it down the road. FWIW, I recently acquired a Ruger MKIV 22/45 lite and it’s been flawless.

Best wishes.

 

[protoolman]

It's hard to limp wrist a .45. It's relatively easy to limp wrist a .22. I know guys who get ftfs with compact .380s all the time and I take their guns, basically lock my wrist and get 100% reliability. With the .45 you know it's going to recoil so you lean into it. Try this, hold you .22 lightly and shoot it one handed and let your hand move with the recoil. Bet you get it to jam every time.

 

[hittman]

I have sent my pistol in for repair 5 times……

Four times more than I would have had patience for.
Our hobby shouldn’t be an aggravation or stressful.
Life’s too short to put up with guns that don’t work for you.

 

[Joe Chartreuse]

Mine works flawlessly with CCI Mini Mag.

Mine as well. CCI Mini-mag does it, but so do Blazers and Aguila Super Extras.

 

[Joe Chartreuse]

I have an LCP II in .22lr. I have sent my pistol in for repair 5 times, each time I am told that they replaced the barrel and were able to fire 30 rounds perfectly without any failures to feed, or misfires. AND that I should only use CCI STANDARD VELOCITY ammunition. I have purchased this ammo at every location within an hours drive of my home. NOT once have I ever gotten even close to what I am told they can. Could someone who has a contact with the people at Ruger please find out for me, where I can purchase the exact same ammuntion that they use, so I too can get that reliability? My thanks in advance for any assistance,

And..... no. Whoever told you to use standard velocity only was absolutely wrong. For re-cocking a .22 LR semi you need whatever gas pressure that little cartridge can produce, so you want higher velocity only. The ONLY jamming problem I ever had was when I was dumb enough to try using my LCP II with subsonic rounds. Not gonna happen.

 

[contender]

Denyse,, first off,, "Welcome to the Forum!"

Now,, your issue.

Quite often,, a person with average to larger hands can have a bit of their hand touching the slide & not realize it. And many find that a smaller semi like the LCP II is harder to handle and that their hands do "ride the slide" so to speak w/o their knowledge.
Combine that with a standard velocity ammo, you are asking for issues.

Limp wristing,, or riding the slide, along with standard velocity ammo would be my guess. And if I recall correctly,, I don't think Ruger uses Std Velocity ammo for function testing. They MIGHT have used it in your gun,, due to the complaint, but I do happen to know that to test fire a LCP it's placed in a machine that fires it for them. No human hands do the shooting. Hence my thought of riding the slide or limp wristing the gun.

 

[ArizonaTea123]

I have a tiny Italian Galesi automatic in 25 ACP. It cycles wonderfully, but it has a habit of removing skin and causing bleeding in assorted areas of my hand.
It's just too small for my hands to operate correctly.

 

[3manfan]

I have an LCP II in .22lr. I have sent my pistol in for repair 5 times, each time I am told that they replaced the barrel and were able to fire 30 rounds perfectly without any failures to feed, or misfires. AND that I should only use CCI STANDARD VELOCITY ammunition. I have purchased this ammo at every location within an hours drive of my home. NOT once have I ever gotten even close to what I am told they can. Could someone who has a contact with the people at Ruger please find out for me, where I can purchase the exact same ammuntion that they use, so I too can get that reliability? My thanks in advance for any assistance,

You don't state if all 5 times you've sent it back in were for the same issue, but if they were, & others have shot it & are getting the same stoppages that you're experiencing I'd be asking for Ruger to replace it with a new one. Going up the supervisory chain may be in order.

 

[GasGuzzler]

NOT once have I ever gotten even close to what I am told they can.

What does this part mean? It might be the key since your original post doesn't really even say what the failure is. It's odd so many people offered advice when the concern with the gun is not stated clearly. What were you told what could get close to?

You don't state if all 5 times you've sent it back in were for the same issue

Kinda what I read.

 

[Mobuck]

I can't determine if the OP is asking for advice on ammo buying or a complaint about Ruger customer service?
CCI standard velocity ammo is available from multiple on-line sellers in carton to case lots.

 

[GasGuzzler]

I can't determine if the OP is asking for advice on ammo buying or a complaint about Ruger customer service?
CCI standard velocity ammo is available from multiple on-line sellers in carton to case lots.

Same.

But I was told it's not nice to ask what someone's words mean.

 

[JBP]

Just call the Ruger location that repaired your pistol. They are very friendly. I'm going to assume that they get theirs directly from CCI. You can also @ cci.com. I had an ammo issue with my 30 Carbine Blackhawk and was connected to a gunsmith.

 

[1pavementends]

I have had several small 22 handguns that were ammo sensitive including an HK. Most were iffy with standard velocity but worked well with high velocity. Very small light hand guns do require a different technique.

 

[Hankus]

Just call the Ruger location that repaired your pistol. They are very friendly. I'm going to assume that they get theirs directly from CCI. You can also @ cci.com. I had an ammo issue with my 30 Carbine Blackhawk and was connected to a gunsmith.

What ammo issues did you experience with your .30 Carbine Blackhawk??

 

[GunnyGene]

Out of shear boredom this morning, I looked up what the User manual for the LCPII says:

For RUGER® LCP® II pistols chambered for the 22 Long Rifle cartridge, do
not attempt to load any other 22 caliber cartridges into the magazine or chamber
of the pistol.
The RUGER® LCP® II pistols are compatible with all factory ammunition of
the correct caliber loaded to U.S. Industry Standards, including high-velocity and
hollow-point loads. However, sub-sonic or match-grade ammunition may not
have sufficient energy to cycle the slide. If you find that the slide does not cycle
fully, try another brand of ammunition

All this means is that you can't/shouldn't load .22Short, .22 Long, .22wmr, or sub-sonic/match .22lr ammo. Therefore, any commonly available .22 LR with an advertised MV above approx 1100 fps. should be just fine. This is no different than just about any other .22lr semi-auto pistol on the market.

 

[peachhead]

This.
I find it very odd that Ruger says only use SV ammo, which is just under 1100 fps, in any semi auto, much less this one.

 

[GunnyGene]

I suspect the OP misunderstood what Ruger said. "Standard" is a poor choice of word, since that means different things to different people. In this context, Ruger should have specified the minimum MV required to provide acceptable functioning of the pistol.

The same can be said of other subjective labeling. How "high" is Hi-Velocity for example. Many people don't bother to read the small print on the box, or they have no clue what MV fps constitutes "Super Sonic", or how barrel length effects MV. Is "Mini-Mag" the same as "Mini-Me"?