Survival guns
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You ever shoot any of these guns you own, I noticed you got a few threads going with whole bunch of guns, do you own a gun store or just bored retirement with money ?
Imagine when Joe and the gang knock on your door uh, you'll become a poster child of the gun loony right.
Imagine when Joe and the gang knock on your door uh, you'll become a poster child of the gun loony right.
OP
I'm mostly an old bored retired mailman and lost my wife 6 years ago. I have shot all my guns but not so much anymore. Everytime I get a new gun I check the bore and bang away off my back porch as soon as I get it home. I kinda live in the woods. I've had a few new guns that would not shoot so I gotta know. I'm not to worried bout Joe and the gang since I don't break any laws except maybe speeding and I'm bout done anyhow. Now you know.
You could add a Savage 24 Campers Companion to that bunch. A bit larger but with much more versatility.
Although I have a Savage, my Mossberg gets the nod from me as “The Perfect Jeep Gun”.
Although I have a Savage, my Mossberg gets the nod from me as “The Perfect Jeep Gun”.
OP
Somehow I managed to miss out on getting one of the campers companions. I would love to have one that is 22 over 20 guage. The one in my picture above is 410 as you can see and I don't much care for the 410. I love the 20 guage though. I don't know why more company's don't make these type guns. To me the perfect one would be 22 over 20 with synthetic stock, 18 inch barrels, stainless steel and storage in the stock.
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I dont have the Savage 24 Camper model but have always likes those guns. The only one I have now is a 24B Deluxe in 22 Mag over 20 gauge. My mother and I hunted rabbits and squirrels together way back when and she always packed a 24 in 22LR over 410. She was a great shot too.
I wish I had kept this one, I was told the RD serial number indicated an experimental R&D gun. Chrome plated with the blue stock and a second natural stock. Chambered in .22 Mag over 20 ga. I didn't know much about it when I had it and still don't!
Wow. That’s a super neat gun WMG!!
The only camper / survival / takedown gun I’ve ever had is the PC Carbine in 9mm.
Got it slightly used from a member here a couple years back.
Was walking through a friends garage recently and spotted a Ruger 10/22 Takedown case hanging on the wall. I told him I’d buy it from him and he said, “hell you can HAVE it, I sold the 10/22 it came with years ago!” Great score for me.
The only camper / survival / takedown gun I’ve ever had is the PC Carbine in 9mm.
Got it slightly used from a member here a couple years back.
Was walking through a friends garage recently and spotted a Ruger 10/22 Takedown case hanging on the wall. I told him I’d buy it from him and he said, “hell you can HAVE it, I sold the 10/22 it came with years ago!” Great score for me.
That blue stock Savage came and went before I had my FFL so I don't have any records on it, but the photos seem to indicate it was 2005, although file dates are misleading on some of my old pics due to having moved them from one computer to another a few times and also having a fatal hard drive crash on one of them where a lot of files were recovered in non-standard ways. The properties on the Savage pics say Modified in 2005 but Created in 2018 which I think was the year of the HD crash.
Anyway, I remember getting it at an auction on a whim. I was there with my son and we noted the blue stock Savage and a pink Duratone High Standard Sentinel which I had never seen. I thought the Sentinel was unique enough that I would try to get it for my then girlfriend/now wife if it went for around $200-250 but it sold for $600. So as a consolation prize, I bought the Savage and I think by the time the dust settled after buyer's premium, etc., I was into it for around $500 and sold it fairly soon after for around $600.
Anyway, I remember getting it at an auction on a whim. I was there with my son and we noted the blue stock Savage and a pink Duratone High Standard Sentinel which I had never seen. I thought the Sentinel was unique enough that I would try to get it for my then girlfriend/now wife if it went for around $200-250 but it sold for $600. So as a consolation prize, I bought the Savage and I think by the time the dust settled after buyer's premium, etc., I was into it for around $500 and sold it fairly soon after for around $600.
BearBiologist
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I had one of the Henry AR7's. I hope yours works better than mine did. It wouldn't shoot more than one or two rounds if you were lucky before jamming. On the plus side that would make your ammo supply last longer in a survival situation. The orange plastic front sight would slide in the dovetail every time the barrel was stowed in the stock so you never knew where your one shot was going to land. I traded it for a single six convertible and that is a much better choice for a survival/camping/compact gun anyway.
OP
I also had one of the earlier ones by charter arms. And like yours, it was a jamomatic. But this one by Henry Arms has never missed a beat and I kinda like it.
Wasn't the USAF M6 survival .22 Hornet barrel over a .410 shot barrel?
I seem to recall that was the story behind this ammo:
Waterproof aluminum cases sealed with wax.
Those shells don't belong to me, they belong to a friend who asked me to sell them for him. I took them home and photographed them right before I moved into the house I'm in now and never saw them again. I suspect they are in some box that I never unpacked (there are several). That was 19 years ago...
noahmercy
Blackhawk
For a packable rimfire, I really like the Marlin 39TD. Accurate, less finicky than a semi-auto, and has a decent capacity. If I also have my 454 Alaskan on my side, I am capable of hunting- or defending against- anything that walks, crawls, or flies in North America.
The bolt action USAF survival rifle was the M4. The M6 was it's replacement. Last I heard they were looking at/adopting a takedown version of the M16 type weapon. If so, they will finally have a worse weapon than the M4.
The M4 wasn't all that accurate with the flimsy butt stock. And the .22 hornet was too much for small game and not large enough for big game. I fired an M4 a few times and was never impressed. Never tried an M6 but even with the screwball trigger it had to have more usefulness than the bolt action M4.
The M4 wasn't all that accurate with the flimsy butt stock. And the .22 hornet was too much for small game and not large enough for big game. I fired an M4 a few times and was never impressed. Never tried an M6 but even with the screwball trigger it had to have more usefulness than the bolt action M4.
I only think of two of mine as "survival" long guns. an AR-7 and an old Saur .22LR / .410 over under. I have heard a lot of negatives about the AR-7 and respectfully disagree with about 98% of them.
I will say this about my Charter Arms AR-7. It was reliable (I think it was mostly mags that caused problems). My only complaint was that a .22 LR is simple too small a caliber to be relied on in an emergency. I kept one in my Jeep for decades I only changed to the Mossberg 500 after an incident that left me feeling very undergunned.
protoolman
Service-Sixer
Some very nice survival combos posted. Mel Tappen would be proud! ( He wrote the original Survival Guns book.) I have had most of those combos at one time or another. I always intended to get the Marlin Papoose but never did. My Charger Arms AR-7 was a decent gun.
OP
I had a new Marlin papoose. It was stored in the little blue zip up takedown case. I opened it one day after not looking at it a couple years. It was absolutely rusted beyond repair. The barrel and receiver and it was stainless steel. I took the sights off the barrel and sanded most of the rust off but finally gave up. I put some oil on it and worked the action a few times, loaded it up and it still shot. I hung it on the wall in the garage.
jgt
Buckeye
If I was going to carry a rifle and revolver for survival, my rifle would be the big bore my revolver would be the rimfire. In most pure survival cases a six inch 22 revolver would work very well for survival. The exception being having to survive in large bear country. I was only out for 28 days, my only weapon was a puma skinner. I could have lived quite well had I had my model seventeen. As it was, I could get within spear chunking range of deer but could have harvested them easily with the Smith & Wesson had I been able to bring it.
rex1
Bearcat
YES would like to have one also
idsubgun
idsubgun
I have a Marlin 39A Mountie that sits behind my recliner. Use it for varmints around the homestead. Thing is so accurate! And takes down for stowage.
Lot's of different views on the subject - personally, I kind of like KYJim's "Rules of Carry", which I discovered somewhere on the internet many years ago:
1) Any gun is better than no gun.
2) A gun that is reliable is better than a gun that is not.
3) A hole in the right place is better than a hole in the wrong place.
4) A bigger hole is a better hole.
I would take the opposite logical approach. Rimfire .22 Ca. Rifle for scrounging small game ( added benefit of low noise) and stalking deer at close range, and my Colt King Cobra, or S&W 657 mountain gun for close range self defense ( by 4 legged or 2 legged aggressors). My rifle would be my pristine condition Remington Nylon 66. - No small mags to lose, and the internal feed tube is protected by the surrounding stock.
With good stalking skills, a .22 rifle with 40 gr. High performance ammo ( like CCI Velocitor) , can reliably be used to harvest deer within 40 yds.
By using the term " Survival guns", my assumption is that we are talking about firearms used primarily for hunting game in a wilderness environment, and not as a Military, or paramilitary type primary use. If that is the case, my choices would be quite different.
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P.S. A .22 rimfire revolver loses alot of power because of gas leakage around the cylinder gap. Turns a 22 Lr into a pop gun. IMHO, a .22 LR's primary purpose is as a trainer. I would never carry one for hunting or self defense purposes. A pistol? Maybe, but not a revolver.
Surprising article from just a couple of days ago:
https://www.ammoland.com/2022/10/tw...e-uses-of-22-mag-against-bears/#axzz7hw0Usdqz
https://www.ammoland.com/2022/10/tw...e-uses-of-22-mag-against-bears/#axzz7hw0Usdqz
