Survival guns
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I would like t make a comment on those who won't leave. At times folks are told to get out for their own safety before disaster strikes. Now these usually natural disasters. Or told to leave after a natural disaster. But you have those who refuse to leave and in the end endanger the safety and health of the emergency workers who have to try and save them.
This behavior is the height of selfishness. If you're caught without any advance notice the emergency services folks will do anything humanly possible to save you. But if you stubbornly refuse to leave you should be left to fend for yourself without a single word of complaint or lawsuits by your survivors.
Many, many years ago I worked a fire in the San Bernadino National Forest. We went by a cabin and told the family to get out. They gave the typical response of haiving been through this before and refused to leave. When the fire reached them, we couldn't. They died, pretty horribly I imagine. Their survivors tried to sue the fire service for not getting them out. Everyone on the rig that went to warn them had to give a depositon. It basically said that we told them to go and they refused.
This behavior is the height of selfishness. If you're caught without any advance notice the emergency services folks will do anything humanly possible to save you. But if you stubbornly refuse to leave you should be left to fend for yourself without a single word of complaint or lawsuits by your survivors.
Many, many years ago I worked a fire in the San Bernadino National Forest. We went by a cabin and told the family to get out. They gave the typical response of haiving been through this before and refused to leave. When the fire reached them, we couldn't. They died, pretty horribly I imagine. Their survivors tried to sue the fire service for not getting them out. Everyone on the rig that went to warn them had to give a depositon. It basically said that we told them to go and they refused.
Your scenario has no bearing on the discussion at hand. However important we realize it may be. We are not talking about natural disasters and or your homeless arson and or lighting strikes.
We are talking a total break down of society, anarchy, and it can come in many forms. Be it political unrest or racial tensions as an example.
Your points are never the less duly noted, keep a low profile and remember to wear the silver arm band so we know not to shoot you.
We are talking a total break down of society, anarchy, and it can come in many forms. Be it political unrest or racial tensions as an example.
Your points are never the less duly noted, keep a low profile and remember to wear the silver arm band so we know not to shoot you.
Bad Barlow
Blackhawk
Bill Jordan's choice was a .22 rifle, Skeeter Skeleton's was a 6" .357.
Bad Barlow
Blackhawk
"Skelton," I'm sorry Skeeter,spell check changed your name for me,and I forgot to check spellcheck
So far this thread has covered everything from EOTWAWKI to lost in the woods. The thread drift that occurs on sites, like this one, not controlled by net nazis' is what makes the exchange of ideas interesting.
NetNathan
Single-Sixer
Thee are all sorts of descriptions of what "survival" could mean. But in its basic sense of surviving in the wild (not government failure, apocalypse, invasion, or Zombie attack (lol)), I believe a compact 22 is best. Ammo is way cheaper, gun is relatively light, quite and compact. It will feed you and protect you.
Ie... Henry AR-7 (first choice) or Ruger 10/22 takedown.
Ie... Henry AR-7 (first choice) or Ruger 10/22 takedown.
I’m curious. Has anyone used an AR-7 in any sort of survival situation, other than myself?
That's why people pimp the .22, the guns are lite weight and you can carry a boat load of ammo.
The question is why are you in the woods in the first place surviving ?
Nothing has ever happen in America to drive people to the woods to survive. So while you may snicker, and no, zombies have never been mention in this discussion.
If you are under 60 you better get your sht together because your apocalypse is coming sooner than later and all man-made.
Get hip to this, Geocaching.
Some of the rabbits and squirrels you'll meet in the woods will scoff at your .22 as they attempt to take your game.
Yeah, carry your boat load of .22 but you better have some buckshot stashed somewhere and the gun to go along with it.
The French resistance didn’t run to the woods like the wolverines. They understood that hiding in plain sight was the way to go. And they were among the most effective clandestine operations ever.
If the world isn’t going your way you have but two choices. Fight or capitulate. If you truly intend to fight the enemy can supply you with weapons and ammo.
Heck, a fair amount of weapons, powder and shot used by American revolutionary fighters came from the British.
If the world isn’t going your way you have but two choices. Fight or capitulate. If you truly intend to fight the enemy can supply you with weapons and ammo.
Heck, a fair amount of weapons, powder and shot used by American revolutionary fighters came from the British.
Skeet 028
Single-Sixer
Luckily I live in the country...away from cities. but even here won't be safe from the
"trying to survive rabble". They will come for the food first. If they can't get that easily they'll be back for everything. And in force. There are a lot of people out there who know how to fight and after a fairly short period of time...they will be in charge of a force of "followers"
"trying to survive rabble". They will come for the food first. If they can't get that easily they'll be back for everything. And in force. There are a lot of people out there who know how to fight and after a fairly short period of time...they will be in charge of a force of "followers"
Read Lucifer’s Hammer if you want a pretty reasonable scenario for an end of the world.
Oh yeah, I think some are under the illusion that it will be a controlled police action in Iraq or Afghanistan.
And wait until the prisons get opened up, every scourge of humanity hits the streets. This is after you discover your neighbor and your own brother are truly scumbags, who will cut your throat in a heart beat.
Some will be pimping their wives and selling their daughters to survive.
“One second after” is an eye opening example of what happens after an EMP. That could certainly happen, but the difficulties they go through are shocking.
Someone mentioned France. They used the Liberator supplied by the US, so they could take firearms from the enemy to wage war. I like the idea of having several mini guns, that can be passed around to neighbors, family or whoever. Keep the rampaging hoods off guard.
Someone mentioned France. They used the Liberator supplied by the US, so they could take firearms from the enemy to wage war. I like the idea of having several mini guns, that can be passed around to neighbors, family or whoever. Keep the rampaging hoods off guard.
The Blackhawk Kid
Blackhawk
Boy Howdy!.....come'n git ya some! YeeHaw
Regardless of how you think things will be, they won’t. If government breaks down you will have two classes. Rulers and ruled. Sort of how it’s always been.
The only thing different is folks will die younger and the standard of living will drop significantly.
The only thing different is folks will die younger and the standard of living will drop significantly.
bookemdano
Single-Sixer
My wife loved that book. I haven't got around to reading it yet.
My favorite book of that type is "The Freeman" by Jerry and Sharon
Ahern.
Dano
OP
I thought I should put these pics back up.
