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Seems that the NFL will figure that no one actually cheated. http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2015/01/25/the-nfl-will-conclude-belichick-and-brady-did-not-cheat/?partner=yahootix
The latest reason spouted is that the cold weather caused the balls to be under inflated. That of course only happened on the Patriots side of the field. The other side of the field was apparently warmer and the balls remained at the required pressure.
 
Sounds like something for people to whine about.

Since the Ref's get to handle each ball before it is put into play,
how far off do you really think any of them were? :roll:
 
Don't really care much for football but it seems that everytime the NEP's go to the super bowl some poor sport cries foul. Just maybe they should grow a set and own up to the fact that they lost. Even if the ball was soft the only thing it would do to affect them is make it easier to intercept.
Though it was professional football not first grade cry baby ball. :roll: :roll:
 
Ruger45 said:
Don't really care much for football but it seems that everytime the NEP's go to the super bowl some poor sport cries foul. Just maybe they should grow a set and own up to the fact that they lost. Even if the ball was soft the only thing it would do to affect them is make it easier to intercept.
Though it was professional football not first grade cry baby ball. :roll: :roll:
Yeah, and lets put the cork back in the baseball bats. :roll: It's only cheating if you get caught and the outcome of the game was close. :evil:
 
....maybe some subtle issue with the team name.....can't actually celebrate wealthy corrupt old slave owners can we?

re: "Since the Ref's get to handle each ball before it is put into play,
how far off do you really think any of them were?"

there's the Big Question right there. Isn't the JOB of the OFFICIALS to note and call out such blatant scofflaws when the Rules are broken?
 
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Jimbo357mag said:
Ruger45 said:
Don't really care much for football but it seems that everytime the NEP's go to the super bowl some poor sport cries foul. Just maybe they should grow a set and own up to the fact that they lost. Even if the ball was soft the only thing it would do to affect them is make it easier to intercept.
Though it was professional football not first grade cry baby ball. :roll: :roll:
Yeah, and lets put the cork back in the baseball bats. :roll: It's only cheating if you get caught and the outcome of the game was close. :evil:
They didn't test the opponents balls!
gramps
 
gramps said:
They didn't test the opponents balls!
gramps
Yes they did and they were fine/legal.

Play an illegal golf ball and you are disqualified.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/golf/34717824.html
 
Fox Mike said:
Seems that the NFL will figure that no one actually cheated. http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2015/01/25/the-nfl-will-conclude-belichick-and-brady-did-not-cheat/?partner=yahootix
The latest reason spouted is that the cold weather caused the balls to be under inflated. That of course only happened on the Patriots side of the field. The other side of the field was apparently warmer and the balls remained at the required pressure.


OR

Perhaps one team had their BALLS inflated to the MAXIMUM pressure and the other team to the MINIMUM; Thus one team's pressure would drop to BELOW the minimum while the other teams balls remained in the range BUT at a LOWER pressure.
 
I'm tired of hearing about this, as it is ruining the anticpation of the upcoming game. As already stated the ref's were always handling the game balls on both teams, and only once was a ball changed during the game. If the Pat's had a slight advantage of being able to hold on to the ball because of it being under inflated, it doesn't explain why the Colts played so poorly with their footballs, which had the required (normal) pressure. Isn't that what all players should be used to, as they are professional football players? To me this is an non-issue, as the Colts lost 45-7, but I could see if the game was very close, then there might be reason for all the fuss. This is my view, yours may differ. LM
 
Jimbo357mag said:
gramps said:
They didn't test the opponents balls!
gramps
Yes they did and they were fine/legal.

Play an illegal golf ball and you are disqualified.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/golf/34717824.html
Show me an official NFL statement showing the results of the testing of both sides balls. Then I will believe. The NFL says they didn't do anything wrong- that I believe!
gramps
 
LGC42 said:
EXACTLY! And because it was Brady and the Pats nothing will be done.

Fact remains everybody tries to knock down the guy on top!
Patriots pretty much dominated football for the last dozen years.
or so. Go pick on them all the other teams including the Colts are
sticking up for them xplayers and all.

Pete Carrol is a cull from the patriots good luck. ps
 
wolfsong said:
Can we just move on to the game at hand?

YES we can, as everybody can be assured that the Superbowl is a fair game between two teams of honorable, talented professional players, who would never tolerate anyone taking unfair advantage of the other team. Only honest, virtuous players are allowed on the field. From player selection to the final second of play, there is no cause to suspect cheating of any type! The NFL has spoken.

REPEAT: The Superbowl is guaranteed to be a fair game. - Repeat this to everyone you know.

Billions of dollars at stake. No reason to believe any cheating at all.
Don't be a chump. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$TALKS.
 
Colonialgirl said:
Fox Mike said:
Seems that the NFL will figure that no one actually cheated. http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2015/01/25/the-nfl-will-conclude-belichick-and-brady-did-not-cheat/?partner=yahootix
The latest reason spouted is that the cold weather caused the balls to be under inflated. That of course only happened on the Patriots side of the field. The other side of the field was apparently warmer and the balls remained at the required pressure.


OR

Perhaps one team had their BALLS inflated to the MAXIMUM pressure and the other team to the MINIMUM; Thus one team's pressure would drop to BELOW the minimum while the other teams balls remained in the range BUT at a LOWER pressure.

Actually that is a good argument. I would like to know if all 24 of the balls were manufactured in the same batch. Football valves are fairly simple. I doubt they have improved them in the last 50 years.
They do tend to leak. Laying on the table they will eventually go flat. They also burp a little when you kick them, fall on them, or celebrate with them when they are slammed to the ground in the end zone.

The real villain here is the rule. After the official checks them they should remain in his possession instead of putting them back in the training room.

I always think its funny when a coach or a player cries foul. Knowing that they all do everything possible themselves to win a game. I know I did...
 
mohavesam said:
wolfsong said:
Can we just move on to the game at hand?

YES we can, as everybody can be assured that the Superbowl is a fair game between two teams of honorable, talented professional players, who would never tolerate anyone taking unfair advantage of the other team. Only honest, virtuous players are allowed on the field. From player selection to the final second of play, there is no cause to suspect cheating of any type! The NFL has spoken.

REPEAT: The Superbowl is guaranteed to be a fair game. - Repeat this to everyone you know.

Billions of dollars at stake. No reason to believe any cheating at all.
Don't be a chump. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$TALKS.
Who's the chump? There's a game to be played. I'm sure that the game balls will be properly inflated. The balls used in the Colts/Patriots game have nothing to do with the upcoming game. And the billions of dollars to be generated will still be generated. Let's move on to the game. The investigation of the alleged incident will run its course in due time. So far, there is no definitive culprit identified. And there won't be, not before next Sunday. No punishment handed down, no decisions made. Let's just watch and enjoy the competition between two excellent teams.
 
The latest is the locker room attendant is being named as the possible culprit.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/26/7917523/nfl-investigating-patriots-locker-room-attendant-for-deflategate
They have to throw someone under the bus; it might as well be the low guy on the totem pole.
 
Ken Dowdy said:
I've seen more debate on the news about footballs than I did about Benghazi, Fast & Furious and/or illegal border crossings.

Hi,

Dunno if that's more a worrisome fact or simply an indication of how silly we are...

Sunday there will be an overhyped football game. Monday is Groundhog's Day and there will be some hoopla about a rodent looking for his shadow. Tuesday, the results of both events will be all but forgotten. Just like those news items Ken mentions... :oops:

Rick C
 
Colonialgirl said:
OR

Perhaps one team had their BALLS inflated to the MAXIMUM pressure and the other team to the MINIMUM; Thus one team's pressure would drop to BELOW the minimum while the other teams balls remained in the range BUT at a LOWER pressure.

Hmmm....Renowned Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson has a little different, more scientific take:

For the Patriots to blame a change in temperature for 15% lower-pressures, requires balls to be inflated with 125-degree air.
— Neil deGrasse Tyson (@neiltyson) January 26, 2015
 
I am just gonna leave this here. http://www.wheb.com/onair/greg-kretschmar-2894/this-news-anchor-destroys-deflategate-finally-13183915#.VMQc09F2G8Y.facebook
 
After hearing and seeing all the media publicity on the "Deflated Balls" controversy, will someone please educate me a little.

As I understand it, in the football game(s) each team supplies the balls that that team will use when on offense. If this is true, then the Patriots used the "deflated" balls on offense for themselves.

I well remember that when I played football as a youngster, any ball that was deflated, or under inflated, did not have the range of a properly inflated ball when kicked, passed, etc. For example an under inflated ball could not be kicked as far or properly on kickoff, field goal, etc. The ball needed to be properly inflated to be used to its potential.

So, if the Patriots were using under inflated balls they would have been handicapping themselves, not getting any unfair advantage over the other team that was using properly inflated balls.

If this the case, then what's the "beef"? The Patriots would not have unfairly cheated for any advantage. In fact they would have handicapped themselves.
 
Rancher,
I'm pretty sure kicking balls are a different batch of balls. They only use them for kicking. Supposedly an under inflated ball, to what degree I don't know, is easier to catch.
Of course the Pats blew away the Colts, so I doubt if it made a bit of difference.
Who cares, play ball. :roll:
 
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