I am not sure I need one. But I want one.
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contender
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Neat gun,, but his choice of a falling steel target,, allowed some of the rounds to bounce off going OVER the target, & out into the wild blue yonder. When you shoot a rear falling steel target,, and hit it multiple times,, the target is going backwards,, creating a "ramp" that allows other shots to go in an unsafe direction.
I like using forward falling poppers in USPSA, so that I know the rounds will not leave the range.
I like using forward falling poppers in USPSA, so that I know the rounds will not leave the range.
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Baxter6551
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YouTube, camera phones and the Internet will be the death of our gun rights. Here is but yet just another example.
Since you and I can not own one what is so impressive about it. Who is this guy and how does he have one... as far as I know the only folks who can own one are military and that would take a lot of various committees and test to approve the purchase of a few thousand or LEO's with the permission of their bosses.... still trying to figure out the numbers.... 1200 rounds per minutes is 20 rounds per second and so it takes one and a half seconds to empty a 30 round magazine.... longer to reload than empty the dern thing... if you ain't hit the target with the first 2 or 3 then the rest are pretty much wasted....
I watched the string of brass flying out and thought I will never own one.
My arm started aching just thinking about reloading all of that brass:oops:
I will stick with one shot at a time.
Impressive but not suitable for hunting deer.
Since when does having fun have to make sense? 
Blume -This is the Kriss Vector SMG. Typically, the Vector SMG variant is only available for military and law enforcement use. However, if there is one in the NFA transferable section of full auto firearms you can own one. You just have to comply with the NFA laws and come up with the money (probably a cool 5 or 6 figure price). However, if you have the correct FFL license and deal with law enforcement agencies, your business can own one as a demonstrater model ( and it would be quite a bit less costly).
You can buy them as a semi-auto for around $1400.00
You can buy them as a semi-auto for around $1400.00
Actually, it shouldn't be available to all citizens. That was the intention of the bill of rights.
Not sure I understand what you're trying to say here.
gjgalligan
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I think he was being sarcastic.
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I hate that people see these videos and think any 13 yo kid can walk into a store and buy one. Then they say we need tougher laws.
Interesting. I doubt many people would have noticed this until you point it out. Thanks.
But on forward falling targets, do you have the rounds bounce back towards the shooter?
Wow! Yep, I just saw them on Grab A Gun. It's really quite ugly though. The barrel being lower than the body of the gun. The price is right up there with a nice quality pistol. But my goodness, it's not nice looking at all.
If it function/shoots well that is more important than what it looks like. I believe they put the bore down low to make it more controllable.
contender
Ruger Guru
"But on forward falling targets, do you have the rounds bounce back towards the shooter?"
Actually,, no.
A forward falling popper,, is tilted towards the shooter. So that when the steel is hit,, it goes backwards a little,, then hits a stop, and falls forwards. the bullet is actually deflected downward. The "latch" holding the target falls away when it moves just a little backwards.
I'll show you one when you come back this fall!
Actually,, no.
A forward falling popper,, is tilted towards the shooter. So that when the steel is hit,, it goes backwards a little,, then hits a stop, and falls forwards. the bullet is actually deflected downward. The "latch" holding the target falls away when it moves just a little backwards.
I'll show you one when you come back this fall!
I think this gun would be great for home defense. I'd love to have one, but would prefer a larger magazine, maybe a drum with about 60 rounds.
Lately, the firearms industry, has been putting out some ugly products, primarily long guns with weird stocks.
I like it, the semi-auto version is on my list of things to get if I see one at friendly price. I love funky looking guns, especially if they offer something new/different in their operation.
Teflon97116
Single-Sixer
Having fired many full-auto weapons, I'd go for a MUCH slower rate of fire if it were up to me.
Just using the MAC 10 in .45acp as an example, we're talking about 1,100 rpm, or 18.33 rounds per second. Meaning a 30-round mag dump lasts 1.6 seconds. (Exciting a couple times and pretty routine after that.)
One can shoot single rounds in semi-auto (yawn) or carefully squeeze off 3-5 round bursts.
If ever given a choice, I'd jump on something half as fast (rat-a-tat-tat vs. bzzzt).
Ammo's mad-expensive. Just sayin'.
Just using the MAC 10 in .45acp as an example, we're talking about 1,100 rpm, or 18.33 rounds per second. Meaning a 30-round mag dump lasts 1.6 seconds. (Exciting a couple times and pretty routine after that.)
One can shoot single rounds in semi-auto (yawn) or carefully squeeze off 3-5 round bursts.
If ever given a choice, I'd jump on something half as fast (rat-a-tat-tat vs. bzzzt).
Ammo's mad-expensive. Just sayin'.
protoolman
Service-Sixer
I shot the semi auto one my buddy won in a raffle. Its ok . No real muzzle rise but it's ugly, ungainly but ok. Im' just not sure it appeals to me for any reason.
