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my guess 'rd18' means the "web " sites for selling of firearms, we're getting too old to be running around "training, clearing rooms and shooting good/bad folks" at the drop of a pin, or a little noise,,,we do not run, we wait....patience 'weedhopper'....
good luck Ray, we been thinking about selling some of Lauras 'toys' or was it collectible cookie jars......
good luck Ray, we been thinking about selling some of Lauras 'toys' or was it collectible cookie jars......
I'm not even going to look at it. Read this first: Club newsletter article on scammers and finding components safely
The internet is a target-rich environment. You are the target. Act accordingly.
Rat76
Blackhawk
Anything with Trusted, Honest etc. in the name is a BIG red flag.
I would stay clear of them never heard of them before
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Bearcat
Hello, new here. I see someone posted our site www.trustedgunexchange.com here. I can answer questions about the site. Please fire away if you have questions.
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Bearcat
Hello, We lowered our commission fee to 10% since we added the 3% convenience fee to the buyer if they use credit card. And yes, unless like scam sites, we do take credit cards except for Amex. If you contact me at [email protected], I can provide you with a promo code for half off fees. We just launched and are offering it as an introductory offer. Thanks!
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Bearcat
Hi, yes, we are a new company that launched in November of 2023 with gun clubs in MA, NC, and FL. If you have questions, you can contact us at [email protected]. Thanks!
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Bearcat
Hopefully not! We're trying to create a risk-free way of buying and selling using our escrow at a registered bank in Alabama to protect Buyers so they can get their money back if the firearm received at their gun store is not "as advertised" and to make it easy for the Seller with pre-paid labels using our FFL. If you have any questions, please contact us at [email protected]. Thanks!
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Bearcat
Hello, agreed that you should not pay with Venmo, Zelle, or Paypal since those are most likely scams. We in fact take credit card and also ACH using checkbook.io. They are a real fintech company in Foster City, CA in Silicon Valley. We partnered with them so we can transfer money to the Seller with the lowest fees and directly within 2 business days. Thanks!
So the company jumping into the forum is a little suspicious... but, the CEO of the site is ex-ATF
https://www.providencejournal.com/s...nect-dots-in-providence-gang-case/8347554007/
Either the scammers have great big brass ones, or....
https://www.providencejournal.com/s...nect-dots-in-providence-gang-case/8347554007/
Either the scammers have great big brass ones, or....
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Bearcat
Haha. Yes, I was interviewed about the ATF NIBIN program. National Integrated Ballistic Information Network.
Jumping into the forum is a way to introduce the company and myself to the community. I appreciate the message and scrutiny!
We are currently working on some partnerships with different gun stores to bring on more inventory. But the best thing about the site is that we guarantee transactions between individuals. Either the Buyer gets 100% money back if the firearm is "not as advertised" or the Seller is guaranteed a payout if it is "as advertised." That's how we make it a risk-free way to buy and sell.
Please contact us if you have more questions!
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Bearcat
Thank you for this post. Our differentiating strategy is that we guarantee transactions which I mentioned in the other post in this thread. No other gun site does this.
Thank you!
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I wish you well and good luck!
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Bearcat
Thank you and I hope we can help you someday.
contender
Ruger Guru
Many people are (rightly so) a bit leery of any new internet gun company. In this day & age of so many scams, scammers, outright thieves etc,, it pays to be cautious.
Often, one red flag is that payments be made via a form of electronic transfer. Apparently,, this new place allows credit cards.
But I see the following; "launched in November of 2023 with gun clubs in MA, NC, and FL." and I wonder; Where in these places?
Then I see; "using our escrow at a registered bank in Arkansas" and I wonder; Why no stores in Arkansas?
And another oddity. "We in fact take credit card and also ACH using checkbook.io. They are a real fintech company in Foster City, CA in Silicon Valley."
Business in a very anti-gun state like Ca?
Lastly,, I see the company joined here today, and has (7) posts,, and all of them are in this thread.
Now,, I'm NOT saying it's not a legitimate company or anything like that. But due to the amount of scammers,, and the fact we often preach; "Use well known & trusted members" when doing internet deals.
And we like to see a business with a store front and direct PHONE contact info. I will FREELY admit that I have NOT looked at the website or anything,, so I'm JUST using info posted in this thread.
If it's legit,, then I wish them the best of luck!
Often, one red flag is that payments be made via a form of electronic transfer. Apparently,, this new place allows credit cards.
But I see the following; "launched in November of 2023 with gun clubs in MA, NC, and FL." and I wonder; Where in these places?
Then I see; "using our escrow at a registered bank in Arkansas" and I wonder; Why no stores in Arkansas?
And another oddity. "We in fact take credit card and also ACH using checkbook.io. They are a real fintech company in Foster City, CA in Silicon Valley."
Business in a very anti-gun state like Ca?
Lastly,, I see the company joined here today, and has (7) posts,, and all of them are in this thread.
Now,, I'm NOT saying it's not a legitimate company or anything like that. But due to the amount of scammers,, and the fact we often preach; "Use well known & trusted members" when doing internet deals.
And we like to see a business with a store front and direct PHONE contact info. I will FREELY admit that I have NOT looked at the website or anything,, so I'm JUST using info posted in this thread.
If it's legit,, then I wish them the best of luck!
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Bearcat
All great points and valid concerns.Thank you for your input. Sorry this is long...
I agree with you... the internet is filled with scammers and I personally hate scammers. That's why I started this company. Now, I know nothing I say here will provide all the trust needed for someone to check out the site. But, I'm hoping this thread and others we participate in for the future can at least start with a small bit of interest in what we are doing.
Some might take a chance on us and post for sale or potentially purchase a pre-owned firearm. Others will not want anything to do with us. And that's okay. We are not for everyone. If you feel comfortable doing a transaction however you do/have done in the past, then by all means, continue on your path. But, if someone ever sees a situation where we can be of service, I hope we can help in any way to provide a secure transaction.
It might sound cliche but our mission is to reduce the number of guns available to criminals by creating a place where law-abiding gun owners buy and sell with confidence and ease.
Our first presentation was to the Ashville Rifle and Pistol Club in Ashville NC. We also presented to Medfield Sportsmans Club, Westford Sportsmans Club, and have future dates with Tyngsboro Sportsmans Club, all in MA. Lastly, we are arranging a date with Weston Shooters Club in MA and their sister club Founder's Club in Fort Lauderdale FL in the future to present to their members and explain our services. Like it was mentioned above, there are so many scammers that it is good to get out there and present in person to different groups to build a sense of credibility and trust.
Also, our bank where Buyer's money is held in escrow is a regional bank in Alabama, United Bank of Atmore. We are not a brick-and-mortar store currently. We have considered it for the future but it is a different business model heavy in capital because of assets needed for a store. We are a SaaS, Software as a Service, that provides secure transactions and logistical support with our FFL contract with UPS to provide pre-paid labels to the Seller to send to the Buyer's FFL that we verify using ATF FFL EZCheck.
Lastly, yes, Checkbook.io is located in California but they love our mission of providing a service to an underserved community while reducing the number of guns available to criminals. I presented to them over zoom and basically stated that Silicon Valley is complicit in creating a black market by not providing services that make for safe transactions. They found me credible because of my ATF background and my knowledge of the laws.
This is too long but hope it provides some insight into what we are doing. We would love to engage more with gun owners to make our site better. If you or others feel inclined, please let us know what you think by emailing [email protected]! Thank you!
I agree with you... the internet is filled with scammers and I personally hate scammers. That's why I started this company. Now, I know nothing I say here will provide all the trust needed for someone to check out the site. But, I'm hoping this thread and others we participate in for the future can at least start with a small bit of interest in what we are doing.
Some might take a chance on us and post for sale or potentially purchase a pre-owned firearm. Others will not want anything to do with us. And that's okay. We are not for everyone. If you feel comfortable doing a transaction however you do/have done in the past, then by all means, continue on your path. But, if someone ever sees a situation where we can be of service, I hope we can help in any way to provide a secure transaction.
It might sound cliche but our mission is to reduce the number of guns available to criminals by creating a place where law-abiding gun owners buy and sell with confidence and ease.
Our first presentation was to the Ashville Rifle and Pistol Club in Ashville NC. We also presented to Medfield Sportsmans Club, Westford Sportsmans Club, and have future dates with Tyngsboro Sportsmans Club, all in MA. Lastly, we are arranging a date with Weston Shooters Club in MA and their sister club Founder's Club in Fort Lauderdale FL in the future to present to their members and explain our services. Like it was mentioned above, there are so many scammers that it is good to get out there and present in person to different groups to build a sense of credibility and trust.
Also, our bank where Buyer's money is held in escrow is a regional bank in Alabama, United Bank of Atmore. We are not a brick-and-mortar store currently. We have considered it for the future but it is a different business model heavy in capital because of assets needed for a store. We are a SaaS, Software as a Service, that provides secure transactions and logistical support with our FFL contract with UPS to provide pre-paid labels to the Seller to send to the Buyer's FFL that we verify using ATF FFL EZCheck.
Lastly, yes, Checkbook.io is located in California but they love our mission of providing a service to an underserved community while reducing the number of guns available to criminals. I presented to them over zoom and basically stated that Silicon Valley is complicit in creating a black market by not providing services that make for safe transactions. They found me credible because of my ATF background and my knowledge of the laws.
This is too long but hope it provides some insight into what we are doing. We would love to engage more with gun owners to make our site better. If you or others feel inclined, please let us know what you think by emailing [email protected]! Thank you!
contender
Ruger Guru
A very concise reply.
I'm very familiar with the Asheville Rifle & Pistol Club. I know several members there.
By the repeated replies here,, and engagement in our Forum,, that may well become a place that some people may choose to use.
And as I mentioned,, I do wish you luck if it's all legit.
I will also point out an observation I've witnessed over the decades of hanging around "gun folks." You have brought up your ATF background as a means of validating yourself. All well & good.
However,, many, many, many gun folks have come to distrust the ATF due to the many ANTI-GUN practices that the ATF has used to harass gun owners, close down small FFL's, failures to actually prosecute criminals when proof is given of a crime, (let's use the Hunter Biden lying on the 4473 to purchase a gun as an example,) & many other practices honest gun owners have endured.
This thread is NOT political,, nor do I want it to go that direction. I'm just pointing out the distrust of the ATF that many gun owners now have due to the history of how the ATF has been run.
Your admitted association or employment in the ATF may be an actual turn-off to many due to the distrust.
All of us here on this Forum that have been members for a long time,, are law abiding, honest people. The very few scammers or otherwise unsavory types have never lasted very long here. And yet, even in this group,, you will find a lot of them are very cautious of any new venture or such like this. We are not against enforcing laws, and ALL wish that criminals be stopped from illegally using firearms.
So if I understand the service this company is offering correctly,, it's to be a "trusted middle man" in firearm transactions where the two parties do not know each other or are from different states. And that trust is to be backed by a guarantee of each party getting what they desire. A buyer getting a gun, and the seller getting paid.
Interesting concept.
I'm very familiar with the Asheville Rifle & Pistol Club. I know several members there.
By the repeated replies here,, and engagement in our Forum,, that may well become a place that some people may choose to use.
And as I mentioned,, I do wish you luck if it's all legit.
I will also point out an observation I've witnessed over the decades of hanging around "gun folks." You have brought up your ATF background as a means of validating yourself. All well & good.
However,, many, many, many gun folks have come to distrust the ATF due to the many ANTI-GUN practices that the ATF has used to harass gun owners, close down small FFL's, failures to actually prosecute criminals when proof is given of a crime, (let's use the Hunter Biden lying on the 4473 to purchase a gun as an example,) & many other practices honest gun owners have endured.
This thread is NOT political,, nor do I want it to go that direction. I'm just pointing out the distrust of the ATF that many gun owners now have due to the history of how the ATF has been run.
Your admitted association or employment in the ATF may be an actual turn-off to many due to the distrust.
All of us here on this Forum that have been members for a long time,, are law abiding, honest people. The very few scammers or otherwise unsavory types have never lasted very long here. And yet, even in this group,, you will find a lot of them are very cautious of any new venture or such like this. We are not against enforcing laws, and ALL wish that criminals be stopped from illegally using firearms.
So if I understand the service this company is offering correctly,, it's to be a "trusted middle man" in firearm transactions where the two parties do not know each other or are from different states. And that trust is to be backed by a guarantee of each party getting what they desire. A buyer getting a gun, and the seller getting paid.
Interesting concept.
Welcome. If I may make a suggestion, honest people and honest businesses use real names. They do not fear the truth. They have no desire to obscure themselves.
I do not use my real name when posting to internet forums like this one, but I'm not using it to run a business. I have a business. For it, I use my real name, real phone numbers, real addresses.
You may also run afoul of attempting to leverage this website (which surely costs money) to advance your business without having to pay for it. That's a question for the site administrators though.
Best wishes.
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Bearcat
Your points are all welcome and taken positively.
These are all things I have thought about over the past two years as I built up to this point. I know, regardless of my well intended acts of providing risk-free gun transactions between unknown parties in different states, that there will be a number of gun owners who will not use the site because of the mere mention of my background. And that’s okay.
My hope is to appeal to the ones who are looking to gain the most value for their gun in a sale and not have to worry about scammers if they are a buyer.
Again, appreciate all the feedback and engagement. It is a legit site and I’m hoping these messages help to realize it.
Thank you.
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Bearcat
Thank you for your message. Upon looking at all of the rules before posting anything, I did not see information or guidance for commercial businesses. I will gladly follow all the rules of the forum.
My name is Ken Kwak. Our business number is 617-299-9692 and our business address is 1049 Elm Street, #320, Manchester NH 03101, United States.
Appreciate you pointing it out. Apologies for not having it listed beforehand! Thank you.
Ken.
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Bearcat
One last thing, on a personal note, if I can just add, there are many people like myself who work for the ATF, who are gun owners and respect and appreciate the second amendment and what it stands for.
Unfortunately, ATF is not run by its leaders anymore. My personal opinion, now that I have retired, and no longer held back by a veil of confidentiality, or retaliation is that ATF is run by the Department of Justice and the executive branch. When it comes to the policies you spoke about in your previous post, those are all directed by DOJ and their boss, the president.
But enough about politics. I’m glad I’ve moved onto greener pastures and hope to serve gun owners by providing what I’ve spoken of before.
No disrespect to anyone here, these are just my personal opinions. No more politics for me. Thank you.
What did folks say when Gunbroker, Guns America, Guns International, etc. started selling guns on line?
Someone was the first to sell and someone was the first to buy through the aforementioned websites.
Someone was the first to sell and someone was the first to buy through the aforementioned websites.
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I am the one that started this post to see who may have heard of trusted gun exchange. I must tell you I have met with them and listed a couple of guns. They are very professional and its a super secure site. I am very pleased with how they represent themselves. Check it out. I also wish them lots of luck.
