.30 Carbine

probably the only "bad" choice would be the steel cased stuff. All depends on what you are using the revolver for--hunting, targets plinking etc. to determine what is "best".

Ron
 
The only factory options are 110 grain FMJ, 110 grain soft point, or Hornady's critical defense load. Handloading wise, there are lighter jacketed bullets like Hornady's 90 grain XTP and short jacket and many cast bullets. Bob!! :lol:
 
Thanks for the input. What about the Aguila ammunition?
I plan to reload, just wanted some factory ammo for now.
 
I bought a couple of boxes of American Federal 110 gr. JSP for the brass. Acquired some 130 gr. Keith style SWC .314 cast from Rim Rock and sized down to .309 for the carbine. Also Bad Man bullets casts a 110 gr. RNFP that shoots well too. Brian Pearce had an article in the Handloader a couple of years ago with several loads.
 
One thing you always read about factory 30 Carbine ammo in a Ruger hand gun is that they are LOUD!! and the muzzle flash lights up the whole neighborhood. I'm sure you can handload ammo that is more pleasant to shoot.
 
The steel case ammo is fine, old wives tail about it harming guns. A couple friends and have shot lots of the stuff in Ruger and M-1 Carbine to no ill effect. I have a just bought another New Blackhawk after selling old gun for tidy sum and have over hundred steel case ammo thru it also.

I shoot the steel stuff when I can't pick up spent brass for some reason or other.

I would bet that if truth be known all of us shooting it is because of the loud bang and flash.....also we reload so with cast lead we're only spending about $5 per 50 rounds. The M-1 Carbine is a hoot to shoot, but the Ruger is just as much fun.
 
Steel is not so much a problem harming the revolver as much as causing sticky extraction. It may be just me, but I have extraction issues in the 30 Blackhawk with steel cases, and I am told it is due to the protective shellac or varnish coating on the cases (to prevent rust). Upon firing, the heat/flash melt the shellac on the case walls leading to sticky extraction.

the 30 Blackhawk is great fun to shoot! It may just be my imagination, but I think original US military surplus 30 carbine ammo has the loudest report and biggest fireball!

Ron
 
trapperon said:
the 30 Blackhawk is great fun to shoot! It may just be my imagination, but I think original US military surplus 30 carbine ammo has the loudest report and biggest fireball!

Ron

Heh, heh. I guess I'm just a curmudgeonly old...well...curmudgeon. I load to get best performance (i.e. muzzle velocity or energy) from a given weapon with as little flash-boom as possible. Even when I was young I was that way. Used to shoot with a neighbor of mine and he loved big boomy loads out of his .44 mag. I remember shooting a couple of cylinders of hand loads from his 4" revolver and handing it back to him with one question...why? :) My .357 loads were actually chronoing more muzzle energy than his flash-boomy .44 loads, both from 4" barrels. His rounds probably would have been great for a .44 carbine...

Not saying it's wrong, mind you, to each their own. I just prefer to conserve my wrists, night vision, and hearing if at all possible. LOL

John
 
trapperon said:
Steel is not so much a problem harming the revolver as much as causing sticky extraction. It may be just me, but I have extraction issues in the 30 Blackhawk with steel cases, and I am told it is due to the protective shellac or varnish coating on the cases (to prevent rust). Upon firing, the heat/flash melt the shellac on the case walls leading to sticky extraction.

the 30 Blackhawk is great fun to shoot! It may just be my imagination, but I think original US military surplus 30 carbine ammo has the loudest report and biggest fireball!

Ron
I/we never had much trouble with sticking that I remember, just occasionally. However this newer ammo that's poly coated has been trouble free so far.

Yes ammo loaded for longer barrel of the M-1 will have a slower burn rate and still be burning a large portion of the powder as bullet exits a 10 inch shorter barrel. So when loading for pistol use a faster burn powder. And no I'll not advise as to type or weight due to legal reasons and variations in gun and loading gear.
 
I had mine cut down to 5 1/2 and it a pleasure to shoot, I am about to start working up reloads for this gun and hope to work up a nice plinking load. Anyone use a specific bullet that they like?
 
Smee781 said:
I had mine cut down to 5 1/2 and it a pleasure to shoot, I am about to start working up reloads for this gun and hope to work up a nice plinking load. Anyone use a specific bullet that they like?
Probably the reason for Ruger doing the gun with 7.5" barrel was to help get as much of the rifle powder burned as possible and not have a unwieldy gun....or any more then necessary.

What ticks me off is the old rap around Pachmayr grips don't fit this New Blackhawk. I need to hunt around for something to replace the little grips that besides being kind of plain or undersized and somewhat uncomfortable.
 
Waldo Pepper said:
Smee781 said:
I had mine cut down to 5 1/2 and it a pleasure to shoot, I am about to start working up reloads for this gun and hope to work up a nice plinking load. Anyone use a specific bullet that they like?
Probably the reason for Ruger doing the gun with 7.5" barrel was to help get as much of the rifle powder burned as possible and not have a unwieldy gun....or any more then necessary.

What ticks me off is the old rap around Pachmayr grips don't fit this New Blackhawk. I need to hunt around for something to replace the little grips that besides being kind of plain or undersized and somewhat uncomfortable.
Which grips does it have? The skinny rosewood kind? I would trade the fatter factory rosewood looking grips off of my 327 Blackhawk for the new skinny ones. If that would help you out. :)
 
I ordered a set of Pachmayr Presentation for the gun, mine is New Blackhawk with round trigger guard. If your 327 is NB RTG then I would still be interested in trading. Who knows I might like the wood look better or they might fit my hand better.

Also I was referring to the Pachmayr that a friend has laying around that was for square trigger guard model.
 
toroflow said:
The .30 Carbine Blackhawk was/is the .327 Magnum 40 years ahead of time!
Funny I was told that a few days ago by a friend with an old WWII Carbine and a old model Ruger 30 Carbine.
 
I have a nice OM .30 Carbine. I have the same problem as many others... the front sight is the wrong height. Really high or really low... I don't remember. I think I have to aim way below where I want the impact... so that means it shoots super high. As in several feet at 50 yards.

I don't remember for sure, been years since I've shot it. Got frustrated how far off it was with the sights adjusted to the max so put it back in the safe.
 
Heliman said:
Are there any factory loads designed specifically for the revolver length barrels like the Blackhawk 7 1/2"?

Dave
Not sure, but the Hornady PD might be, but doubt it. I've never seen any advertised, and doubt anyone does because of small number revolvers chambered in 30 carbine.
 
For economic reasons, I reload my .30 ammo with half jackets. The fired cases are a bear to re-size, requiring every one to be lubed.
 
ancora said:
For economic reasons, I reload my .30 ammo with half jackets. The fired cases are a bear to re-size, requiring every one to be lubed.
I find them no more trouble to reloaded then 38 Super, 10mm, 357 magnum or 44 magnum brass cases, but then I've been reloading 50 years. I have a love/hate relation with bottle neck cases and the extra work they make you do, but with good lubes and tools it is still what I'd call easy.
 

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