30 carbine

[jehu]

It's very accurate, fun to shoot but EAR SPLITTING! Even with good earmuffs! I like the balance better with a same size steel grip frame replacement for the alloy GF it came with. Super BH Hunter with the round trigger guard size grip is even better.
If you want to shoot it a lot with .30 Carbine ammo you'll eventually have to deal with forcing cone erosion. However it's also versatile if you want to avoid the muzzle blast.
But you have a few alternate choices of ammo especially to avoid the ear splitting report of the 30 carbine:

1- The .30 M1 Blackhawk Ruger, Old or New Models, will shoot .32 H&R Mag and 327 Federal Mag:

I have a new model 30 and an old model 30 and it,s OK to shoot 327 federal mag in those guns??

 

[contender]

The .30 Carbine bullet measures .308-.309,, depending upon the manufacturer.

The .32 H&R mag, the .327 Mag, and the 32-20 use a bullet that measures .312.

Many people have used a .30 Carbine to shoot these other calibers. BUT,,,,,,, getting the cases to fit the cylinders can be an issue. The NM Rugers can easily accept the 32-20 cases. The Buckeye Sports Specials,, are convertibles, in .32-20 & .32 H&R Mag.
The bullets will have a tight fit in the barrel,, but the .30 carbine barrels can be shot with those calibers. Especially if lead, plated or coated bullets are used.

 

[hittman]

OM 30 Carbines seem to have pretty tight tolerances in the cylinders.

 

[Crockett12]

what I found was that they are no louder than any other model if you reload & use a powder other than a military type ball powder.

I'd be interested in knowing what powders you found that decreased the loud muzzle blast!

 

[hittman]

Don’t y’all wear hearing protection?

 

[The.Tumbleweed]

It would have been sweet if Ruger had made a .30 carbine, similar to their old 5/44.

 

[Jagdhund]

I’m also thinking about getting one someday. Any thread about the .30 m1 BlackHawk is incomplete without this picture. View attachment 94963

A buddy of mine at Ft. Rucker told me he use his to shoot monkeys out of trees in Panama.

 

[eveled]

Why? What do you do with a dead monkey?

 

[rugerguy]

the Ruger came in quite handy at times, like the picture below and my friend Jim P. Sgt Major ,Army, in Khe San, carried a Super Blackhawk 44 mag at times......

 

[eveled]

It would have been sweet if Ruger had made a .30 carbine, similar to their old 5/44.

It probably didn’t make much sense when m1 carbines were being sold by the barrel.

I went down the rabbit hole earlier. Looking for other guns chambered in .30 carbine.

M1’s (and clones)
Blackhawk
Kimball pistol (very few made)
Taurus Raging 30 double action revolver
Marlin levermatic M62
Armalon AL30c bolt action (doesn’t show up in a google search).
Excel x30r
IMI Magal (Galil)

The Ruger Blackhawk and Marlin levermatic are the only ones that were successful. As far as I can tell.

Once the Israeli surplus ammo dried up there was little reason to buy a gun in .30M1

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Why? What do you do with a dead monkey?

Taste like chicken

 

[eveled]

Ruger never made them with a short barrel. Obviously whomever chopped it soon discovered why and sold it!

We can agree shorter is not a good option. What about longer? What is the ideal barrel length for a .30 carbine Blackhawk?

I think it would be better with a 10” barrel, maybe longer?

 

[Rat76]

OM 30 Carbines seem to have pretty tight tolerances in the cylinders.

I found that out with mine. I had a problem with rounds not seating all the way & preventing cylinder rotation. Checked my reloads & after a while gave the chambers a good cleaning. No more problem.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

I found that out with mine. I had a problem with rounds not seating all the way & preventing cylinder rotation. Checked my reloads & after a while gave the chambers a good cleaning. No more problem.

That's the problem with the .32-20 in Old Models. The rounds will chamber OK but the headspace prevents cylinder rotation.

 

[JCK]

I wonder if there's a handload significantly less loud?

Lots!

 

[Richard76]

I passed on a couple 30 BH's on this forum. still regretting it

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Lots!

Yep, it can easily be loaded to .38 Special levels . . . and many more.

 

[contender]

"I wonder if there's a handload significantly less loud?"

I never give out my handload information. That's what manuals & personal testing is for. What works for me, may not work for someone else.
Not trying to be a smart-alek,, just safe.

Handloading should always be approached with safety in mind, and following established loading manuals.
And heck, personal testing is half the fun of learning a new gun/caliber!

 

[pupsdad]

I have officially gave up on a 30 carbine Blackhawk. I have shifted to 22 Magnum as my goal, reasons being many more choices and they are out there at way more reasonable prices. I can buy a new single six with both cylinders for considerly less money.

 

[arcticruger]

I have officially gave up on a 30 carbine Blackhawk. I have shifted to 22 Magnum as my goal, reasons being many more choices and they are out there at way more reasonable prices. I can buy a new single six with both cylinders for considerly less money.

Brand new MSRP is only $50 less for the Single-Six than the Blackhawk .30 Carbine ($889 versus $839) unless you go for the stainless Convertable, it’s $40 more.

They’re out there, just have to keep on it. GB shows the .30 Carbine going any where from 500-800 recently. Month ago, a real nice 3-screw closed at 529.

I say get both

 

[eveled]

A single six and a .357 Blackhawk were my first two handguns. They were my only handguns for a long time. I never felt under gunned.

I added .45Colt/ACP and .44Mag. A .30 carbine would fit nicely in my safe too. It is just a difficult one to justify. This thread is helping.

There is a LBIB one locally for $750 made in 2010. maybe I will make an offer.

 

[pupsdad]

I'm looking for a used new model single six 22 mag and I have been also looking at the blackhawk 30 carbine. See plenty of single six and several blackhawks but the blackhawks are all priced higher. So I'll most likely end up with a single six. I prefer nice used pistols because I carry them around. They get thrown in the side by side and will be in there a couple days. Some times in a case but in a holster most of the time. It's easier for me with used guns then I'm not worried about dinging or marking it as I use it. I have sold guns I really liked and purchased something not so nice just because it suits me.

 

[eveled]

The .22 single six and .357 Blackhawk are way more practical and cheaper to shoot than the .30Carbine Blackhawk.

I agree on buying them cheaper pre scratched up. Makes perfect sense for a beater.

 

[pupsdad]

I also have a 32 h&r mag single six so I decided I'd rather have the 22WMR

 

[Hondo44]

You know, the 32 H&R is the easiest thing in the world to convert to .327 Fed Mag. Just be mindful of bullet length. No problem if you reload.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

You know, the 32 H&R is the easiest thing in the world to convert to .327 Fed Mag. Just be mindful of bullet length. No problem if you reload.

I've always wondered about that. The .32 H&R is a 21,000 PSI round while the .327 is a 45,000 PSI round. I'm no gunsmith, but I do reload quite a bit of ammo and am sorta familiar with the SAAMI specs involved. I'd bet that no gun manufacturer would condone reaming the H&R chambers to accept the .327 rounds. Heck, the .30 Carbine is "only" a 30,000 PSI round. Any thoughts on that?

Edited to note that the .30 Carbine is a 40,000 PSI round.

 

[eveled]

Where did you get your numbers for tge M1 carbine ammo? From what I see M1 carbine is listed at 40,000 psi.

 

[BULL'S-EYE]

There's two brand new 30 Carbine Blackhawks sitting next to each other in the revolver display case at my LGS... Both are priced at a very reasonable $650 each.

 

[hittman]

You say new so assume you mean that literally …. New Model? Correct?

 

[BULL'S-EYE]

You say new so assume you mean that literally …. New Model? Correct?

Yes, both are new models of recent production.