Winter wonderland.....

[Bob Wright]

This is about 10:00 a.m. Thursday, Feb. 3, 2022, and I sit at my computer listening to the crackling of tree limbs, the snapping of ice, and the thud of falling tree limbs. It is raining and freezing on the trees around me. Winter wonderland? You sit and wonder just how long you will have electric power.


Bob Wright

 

[dannyd]

Did part of a winter in Memphis Nov-Jan. Not the coldest place I have been but it was missable cold and wet there.

 

[codebreaker]

I used to live in Memphis and Germantown. I remember some snow and ice but fortunately, not a lot although it has been 30 years. Now I'm in Edmond Oklahoma and we're getting snowed on too. Apparently we missed the ice this time. I had a generator hookup/lockout installed yesterday, just in time but fortunately did not need to use it. We got clobbered by ice last year. Took months to get all of the tree limbs picked up.

 

[BearBiologist]

The Vikings pictured Hades as a land of darkness, ice and snow!

 

[Colonialgirl]

And here in Florida they are predicting 80 degree weather today.
The streets are over crowded with SNOWBIRDS from the North all driving 5 mph UNDER the speed limit, cleaning everything off the grocery shelves and making gasoline prices skyrocket !! $3.45/gal ++ depending on the station and brand.

 

[Big Old Boy]

Not bad here in middle Tn yet but I believe we are in for some ice tonight.

 

[Kevin]

We had two tree limbs fall last night. One in the pool and a larger one fell out front and blocked the street. The city came and clears that one. I had to get the tree limb out of our pool. Not the easiest.

Our neighbors had a very large tree limb fall into their neighbors yard and barely missed that house. They are going to have to hire someone to clean it up. It’s pretty big.

Water is pretty heavy when it’s frozen

 

[hittman]

I’d rather have the 10 inches of snow we got Tues night into Wednesday instead of ice.

 

[Pat-inCO]

Water is pretty heavy when it’s frozen

Actually it is lighter (ice floats . . . right?).
It's just that as ice, the weight is concentrated on a small location. :wink:

 

[Jeepnik]

Yep, this is a bad winter. Last night it got into the 50’s and I had to put on a hoodie.

If you’re complaining about the weather there is a solution. Move.

 

[Watchman]

It's a clear 9 degrees here today. I've decided to embrace the cold. I'm buying an iceboat next week!

 

[Wyandot Jim]

I worked/lived thru winters in Canada, Korea, China, and Russia, and grew up in the snow belt of Ohio. But the absolute worst Ice Storm I have ever seen was March 3-4 1989 in Raleigh NC. I had just driven there from TX to be the Client Rep on a Power Plant Project the night before the storm. When I woke up to cold clear blue skies the morning after the storm there was probably a 3/4"" or more of ice on everything. It was impossible to drive. I tried to walk across the street to a restaurant to eat but gave up on that and ate at the Motel. There was so much ice on my car I could not even open the doors.
Of all times not to have a camera since it was really a beautiful sight with the sun reflecting off of the tree branches even though quite a few were broken. Another sight I had never seen was while I was in Russia. It was an Ice Fog that had blown in from the ocean and froze to the trees branches. Hard to explain how great it looks. Ya had to have been there.
It's kind of nasty here but not as bad as last year's BIG FREESE when the power went off for several days.

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Water is pretty heavy when it’s frozen

Must be why Icebergs sink I never could get an ice cube to float

 

[Jeepnik]

Water is pretty heavy when it’s frozen

Must be why Icebergs sink I never could get an ice cube to float

Several factors cause ice to float or sink. For instance the amount of air absorbed by the ice during freezing (side note, water is one of the very few substances that increases in mass as it freezes under normal atmospheric conditions). The specific gravity of the liquid the ice is in would be another. The thickness, shape and surface area are others.

 

[Pat-inCO]

Must be why Icebergs sink

Icebergs have about 70 to 75% of their mass below the water line. The remaining
25 to 30% is what you see: think about the Titanic. :roll:

If Icebergs sink, the Titanic would not have sunk. :wink:

 

[HarryD]

Hope you have power when it’s finally over, we got lucky in Southern Illinois just minor freezing rain before it changed to sleet and snow. Looks like 2-3” mostly sleet with snow blowing on top of it.

 

[Kevin]

Ok! Ok! I’m sorry! Yes, ice is lighter than water. I wasn’t thinking physics when I said that.

Yes, ice (water) is the only solid that will float in its own liquid. I believe that’s how the physics of it all was explained to me way back when.

For example solid lead chunks will sink when casting lead bullets, correct? (I don’t cast bullets.)

Or a gold block will sink in a vat of molten gold.

Water also expands when it freezes, to a certain temperature, then it will contract as it gets even colder.

I think there are also some properties about steam which are specific to water, but I cannot remember them right now…

 

[Selena]

Must be why Icebergs sink

Icebergs have about 70 to 75% of their mass below the water line. The remaining
25 to 30% is what you see: think about the Titanic. :roll:

If Icebergs sink, the Titanic would not have sunk. :wink:

If icebergs sink there wouldn't have been a Titanic as water would freeze from the bottom up and life would not be able to exist.

 

[BearBiologist]

Ice incorporates air because the 3 molecules are at 120 degrees (angle). When they "connect", it leaves gaps. Density is defined as weight/area, so the area increases but weight doesn't, so ice is less dense than water.

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Must be why Icebergs sink

Icebergs have about 70 to 75% of their mass below the water line. The remaining
25 to 30% is what you see: think about the Titanic. :roll:

If Icebergs sink, the Titanic would not have sunk. :wink:

Hey Guys,
I was trying to be sarcastic, just not very good at it Kevin's statement of "Water is pretty heavy when it’s frozen" just struck me as funny :wink:

 

[jimd441]

Wyandot Jim -Of all times not to have a camera since it was really a beautiful sight with the sun reflecting off of the tree branches . I live in Central NC and know ice storms all too well. You nailed it with your comment, and I have felt guilty about saying that before because ice storms are so destructive. But it certainly can be beautiful, especially at sunrise and sunset...

Jim

 

[Fox Mike]

My front and back porches are now skating rinks. I think I would rather have snow.

 

[toysoldier]

This is about 10:00 a.m. Thursday, Feb. 3, 2022, and I sit at my computer listening to the crackling of tree limbs, the snapping of ice, and the thud of falling tree limbs. It is raining and freezing on the trees around me. Winter wonderland? You sit and wonder just how long you will have electric power.
Bob Wright

We experienced that in 2007. Power was out for 3 days, but my Fischer Baby Bear stove kept us from freezing. There was one bit of damage I actually enjoyed. I went for a walk the first morning, listening to tree limbs snap and crash in the nearby tree lines. As I turned around to head back home, I could see the house of the neighborhood ordinance Nazi. This was a guy who used a powered parasail to overfly the neighborhood to check for malfunctioning septic systems, among other un-neighborly actions. There was a maple tree near his home, and as I watched, half of it split off and tore off his power line. "Yes!" I cried. "There is a God." :twisted:

 

[Mobuck]

Snow is always easier to handle, move, or disperse than ice(and usually causes less damage).

 

[Rick Courtright]

If you’re complaining about the weather there is a solution. Move.

HI,

Just don't move to CA! The great experiment of letting anybody who couldn't hack the weather at home, or find a job, failed about 25 million "immigrants" ago.

Rick C

 

[Colonialgirl]

AND DON'T MOVE TO FLORIDA just because you are tired of the cold and snow. Too much traffic now from snowbirds.

 

[NewRuger41]

Walkin' in a Winter Wonderland ...

 

[eveled]

Ok! Ok! I’m sorry! Yes, ice is lighter than water. I wasn’t thinking physics when I said that.

Yes, ice (water) is the only solid that will float in its own liquid. I believe that’s how the physics of it all was explained to me way back when.

For example solid lead chunks will sink when casting lead bullets, correct? (I don’t cast bullets.)

Or a gold block will sink in a vat of molten gold.

Water also expands when it freezes, to a certain temperature, then it will contract as it gets even colder.

I think there are also some properties about steam which are specific to water, but I cannot remember them right now…

Its most dense at 39 degrees F