Time for another purchase...

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Sooooo...I usually have five or six DA revolvers at any given time but I generally trade or sell them to rotate different models in and out of my collection depending on what suits my current needs/wants. I've been getting the itch to actually add to the herd and I have always wanted a Bisley Vaquero, but, I really think a Mini 14 is in my near future as I've never owned a rifle of any kind and I think it would be a fun gun at the range plus it seems as though it would make a nice SHTF gun. Any and all advice about the different models would be greatly appreciated as I am an absolute newbie to this platform.
 
a Mini 14 is in my near future as I've never owned a rifle of any kind and I think it would be a fun gun at the range plus it seems as though it would make a nice SHTF gun. Any and all advice about the different models would be greatly appreciated as I am an absolute newbie to this platform.

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Short, portable, tactical, highly defensive, powerful round, 30 rounds mags
 
as an old Vaq Bisley fan, not too much to go wrong, fall off, or quit working....just consider vastly different polar opposites in the needs served by the two. They both have their place.
 
Bill Ruger advertised the Mini-14 as; "The Worlds most expensive plinker!" They are robust, well made guns,,, but target grade accuracy isn't their strong suit. Perfectly suited to SHTF scenarios, as .223 ammo may be available.
I thought every Ruger fan owned one,,,,,!
 
If you get a Mini, get one of the newer 580 series guns with a slightly thicker barrel. They are as a general rule more accurate than the older pencil barreled Minis. You wont win any benchrest matches with even a new one, but they are lots of fun to shoot, and everyone I have ever owned has been 100% reliable.
 
m657 said:
as an old Vaq Bisley fan, not too much to go wrong, fall off, or quit working....just consider vastly different polar opposites in the needs served by the two. They both have their place.

The Vaquero is definitely gonna happen :mrgreen: ...

contender said:
Bill Ruger advertised the Mini-14 as; "The Worlds most expensive plinker!" They are robust, well made guns,,, but target grade accuracy isn't their strong suit. Perfectly suited to SHTF scenarios, as .223 ammo may be available.
I thought every Ruger fan owned one,,,,,!

I know, I feel like I should have one already, I like the looks of the wood stock and I think stainless would be more durable...thoughts? What type of ammo do you guys run through yours?
 
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" I feel like I should have one already,"
I had one from the mid-80s for about 20 years that just didn't fit me right. Got about 200 rounds thru it in that period of time. A buddy took immediate lust to it and we negotiated.....

Don't know what's wrong with ~me~ as none of the AR class or mini-14s seem to activate that 'must-acquire' switch. I'm fine with the .223 caliber and enjoyed a buddy's BLR loaner decades ago....but the barrel on it would heat severely after about 5 shots so it wasn't a keeper either.
 
m657 said:
" Don't know what's wrong with ~me~ as none of the AR class or mini-14s seem to activate that 'must-acquire' switch. I'm fine with the .223 caliber and enjoyed a buddy's BLR loaner decades ago....but the barrel on it would heat severely after about 5 shots so it wasn't a keeper either.

I don't think that's as big a factor as what you think is going to happen in America with BLM, Mooslems, riots, money devaluation, and various others that want to create havoc. If you don't think it's going to happen, or could happen, maybe you decide you don't want one. Me, I hope it doesn't happen, but doesn't mean I think it couldn't happen. I'm favorable to the old Boy Scout Moto, of "Be Prepared". Hard to do that without the equipment, and ammo.
 
If yu just want a cool looking plinker then track down an older mini.... if you want something as good as most ARs then go with the new 580 models... and yes, I would go for stainless....

many folks here and there purchase cheap commie ammo to shoot... some say it's okay some including the factory say 'nah'... personally for me I really like to buy local which means made in American.... there's enough cheap commie items out there that we have to buy, why run it through a good gun? I like Georgia Arms which sells factory reloads.... the most accurate .223 ammo I ever bought was some stuff I thought was cheap from The Sportsmans guide.... Ultra Max 58grain hollow points I think was what they were.
 
ahhh... the inevitable comparison to a mythical AR rifle! It never takes long around here.

A local deputy (Yavapai) once remarked to me they have a TIC rule in the Sheriff's Dept that in any confrontation or response, to "shoot the guy with the black rifle first"!
Maybe a wood stocked Mini-14 might be a better choice for fieldwork? :shock:

Remember most Mini-14s were built when WBR refused to pay more than $7 per barrel - yes they were long-designed and built as 'plinkers'. But I have never found a more-reliable semi-auto rifle for the price right out of the box. Even my 180-series guns shot into 3 inches/100 yards and that is better than most bubbas I've met can do anyway. Everybody should own & shoot a Mini-14 - our world would be a better place.
 
I'm Sticking with my Old Lee-Enfield 303 Mk4's. 20 round magazines, accurate and can reach out and touch you at 1000 yards if need be; PLENTY of stopping power too. Should I mention the rapid bolt action? WW1 Germans thought the Brits ALL had machine guns !!
Wouldn't mind one chambered to .308 though.
 
mohavesam said:
ahhh... the inevitable comparison to a mythical AR rifle! It never takes long around here.

A local deputy (Yavapai) once remarked to me they have a TIC rule in the Sheriff's Dept that in any confrontation or response, to "shoot the guy with the black rifle first"!
Maybe a wood stocked Mini-14 might be a better choice for fieldwork? :shock:

Remember most Mini-14s were built when WBR refused to pay more than $7 per barrel - yes they were long-designed and built as 'plinkers'. But I have never found a more-reliable semi-auto rifle for the price right out of the box. Even my 180-series guns shot into 3 inches/100 yards and that is better than most bubbas I've met can do anyway. Everybody should own & shoot a Mini-14 - our world would be a better place.

Quoted for truth! I have several Minis, and I run every kind of ammo from 'commie' rounds (that sometimes feel like they were simmered in sand) as was cited by Blume, to top of the line .223.

Minis are kinda like an old dump truck - Clutch 'er, gas 'er, drive 'er & watch 'er. Ain't pretty and ain't fancy, but they almost ALWAYS work when ya call on 'em. And I don't wanna be on the receiving end of one no matter HOW inaccurate it is or who's shooting it! ;)
 
"SHTF" is a rather generic term which means different things to different people, so it follows that "SHTF gun" can mean different things to different people too.

That said, I'm a big fan of the Mini-14....but not a fan of recommending one to others when the question of "SHTF" comes up. Mostly because to me, what the question is really asking is "Is an out of the box Mini suitable for use as a combat gun?"....which to me, it aint.

Reason's are:
As-issued, the Mini-14 is not (and never has been) what I'd call a "serious rifle". Close maybe, but no cigar. And that's a shame, because it certainly could have been if it weren't for Ruger having cheaped-out on so many details.
Plus...Mini's have a spare parts problem, meaning that Ruger will not sell bolts, bolt Assy's, firing pins, or individual F/C parts to anyone, not even a gun smith. I understand their reasoning for that, but still, it is what it is.
Spare mags?....yeah, you can presently buy all of the good "factory" mags that you want. But at $25-$40 a pop, how many would you actually want?

On the other hand, most of the design and/or QC problems relative to the Mini not being a serious rifle can be fixed. It is also possible to acquire a stock of spare parts. All it takes is a lot of time, trouble, money and occasional assistance from a good gun smith. :lol: .

DGW...who's been down that road, and more than once.
 
Wouldn't a Ruger AR15 fit the bill better, as well as being cheaper, more accurate and more available accesories? Of course, there is nothing wrong with owning both. :wink:
 
muzzleloader said:
Wouldn't a Ruger AR15 fit the bill better, as well as being cheaper, more accurate and more available accesories? Of course, there is nothing wrong with owning both. :wink:

I don't like the feel or looks(as dumb as that sounds) of the AR platform, to me the Mini 14 points a lot like my shotgun and I'm comfortable with that.
 
Captain America said:
I don't like the feel or looks(as dumb as that sounds) of the AR platform, to me the Mini 14 points a lot like my shotgun and I'm comfortable with that.

You're not alone. Mini,s have the look I like, especially stainless & wood ones.
 

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