Shotgun question

[Hvymax]

Yeah, you don't need an interim picture storage account. I am a super computer idiot and I can go it. In your thread just go to picture on your PC or laptop, select file then picture, and it will ask if you want to attach. Click on that and you're done. Works for me.

I don't even have a PC. My Droid is Amazing.

 

[welldoya]

Wow! I’ve never seen one with a 40” barrel.
Crescent used to make a Long Tom with a 36” barrel and I owned a Marlin Goose Gun (Bolt action) with a 36” barrel but I’ve never even heard of a 40”.
Post up some pics.

 

[wolfsong]

Does it look anything like this? Diamond Arms St. Louis. Made by either Steven's, H & R or Ivers Johnson and sold as a trade gun. This one was sold by Shapleigh Hardware of St. Louis, Missouri. Mine dates in the 30's, I believe. 30" barrel single shot 12 gauge. Still a shooter but kicks like a pissed off mule.

 

[xtratoy]

I post pictures directly from my phone. It's so easy even I could do it after a year or so. Attach files, select from pictures and albums select picture/pictures.

LOL... reminded me of this.

 

[TerryC]

If you post a pic I might be able to tell you who made it.

 

[jimbo1096]

Post a close up of the brand markings.

 

[Hvymax]

Definitely a Goose gun. Close ups of all factory markings, side plates, lug details would help narrow it down. There were a handful of manufacturers but hundreds of brands.

 

[TerryC]

Definitely a Goose gun. Close ups of all factory markings, side plates, lug details would help narrow it down. There were a handful of manufacturers but hundreds of brands.

Here is the only marking other than the number, which is consistent on all 3 pieces.

 

[eveled]

Wow! That is the least fancy manufacturing stamping I’ve ever seen on a gun.

 

[Klondike Mike]

I'll take a guess and say it was made by Hopkins and Allen for a hardware store that wanted a name that would insinuate high quality. New England Gun Company sounds like a solid establishment. 🤔 That's a pretty good guess I think.

 

[JiminMaine]

This has nothing to do with who made this shotgun, it is about what NOT to do with it.

I hope the statuette of limitations has gone by.

When I was a teenager (60 years ago) and not very knowledgeable about guns and reloading my neighbor (I'll call him Mike to protect the young and stupid) had one of these 40" barreled single-barreled shotguns, I think it was a Savage. Mike was a couple years older than me and had his own 12 ga. reloader. I thought he knew everything about reloading ammo. Mike had just read an article in one of the gun rags about the "Punt Guns" used on the Chesapeake by the market gunners. We lived in the Connecticut River valley in western Mass. In the spring the river would overflow the banks and flood some of the pastures. This coincided with the spring migration of the ducks. The ducks would stop in the flooed pastures. Mike decided he would like to try some punt gunning. He had an old wooden rowboat that we used in the river. His idea was to have me paddle the boat with him lying on the bottom with the barrel of the gun only about a foot over the water and when he saw a bunch of ducks lined up he would shoot.

This is where it gets interesting. He decided we would need something more than a standard 12 ga. load. He loaded a 12 ga. shell with a double powder charge and just put a wad over it. This was back before plastic wads. After chambering the shell he poured a double shot load down the barrel followed by a wadded up piece of toilet paper. He settled in on the bottom of the boat with the barrel resting on the transom and I paddled the boat backwards until we had about a dozen ducks lined up about 40 yds away.

KA_BOOM!! I think he slid back a foot on the bottom and the boat stopped moving. He rolled over holding his shoulder and said a few choice words and than wanted to know if he got any. Somehow the shotgun was still in one piece. I paddled over and we found a few ducks waiting for us.

He decided that a standard load was enough after that. We did keep using the tactic though and ended up with a bunch of ducks in his family's freezer.

I don't know what load they proofed that shotgun with but it was a strong old gun.

 

[kmoore]

Those 40 inch barrels used to also be marketed for urban hunting saying they had quieter muzzle blasts to not disturb the people living nearby. Not sure how much they help with that.

 

[jimbo1096]

Looks like a NEF Pardner, they made them with schnabel forearm. they made them in 12 and 20 ga, but longest barrel was a 28" that I know of.
Should be gauge stamp and proof marks somewhere on barrel and receiver.

 

[Hvymax]

I can't see if there are any side plates or any significant details. I found this car what is it with no pictures.

 

[Hvymax]

This has nothing to do with who made this shotgun, it is about what NOT to do with it.

I hope the statuette of limitations has gone by.

When I was a teenager (60 years ago) and not very knowledgeable about guns and reloading my neighbor (I'll call him Mike to protect the young and stupid) had one of these 40" barreled single-barreled shotguns, I think it was a Savage. Mike was a couple years older than me and had his own 12 ga. reloader. I thought he knew everything about reloading ammo. Mike had just read an article in one of the gun rags about the "Punt Guns" used on the Chesapeake by the market gunners. We lived in the Connecticut River valley in western Mass. In the spring the river would overflow the banks and flood some of the pastures. This coincided with the spring migration of the ducks. The ducks would stop in the flooed pastures. Mike decided he would like to try some punt gunning. He had an old wooden rowboat that we used in the river. His idea was to have me paddle the boat with him lying on the bottom with the barrel of the gun only about a foot over the water and when he saw a bunch of ducks lined up he would shoot.

This is where it gets interesting. He decided we would need something more than a standard 12 ga. load. He loaded a 12 ga. shell with a double powder charge and just put a wad over it. This was back before plastic wads. After chambering the shell he poured a double shot load down the barrel followed by a wadded up piece of toilet paper. He settled in on the bottom of the boat with the barrel resting on the transom and I paddled the boat backwards until we had about a dozen ducks lined up about 40 yds away.

KA_BOOM!! I think he slid back a foot on the bottom and the boat stopped moving. He rolled over holding his shoulder and said a few choice words and than wanted to know if he got any. Somehow the shotgun was still in one piece. I paddled over and we found a few ducks waiting for us.

He decided that a standard load was enough after that. We did keep using the tactic though and ended up with a bunch of ducks in his family's freezer.

I don't know what load they proofed that shotgun with but it was a strong old gun.

Yeah I started muzzle loading when I was 13. A lot of stupid crap went down those barrels and I managed to survive. They were all I would hunt with for about 30 years. I was also an early adopter of the 3 1/2" 12ga after seeing my friends Ithaca Mag 10 drop 3 birds with 1 shot pass shooting. I keep a box of 2 1/2oz Turkey loads handy in case I experience any recoil junkies. Lightfield Commander 3 1/2" slugs make a 5gal bucket go off like a soda can.

 

[purebred]

40" bbl was known as the 'goose gun.'

Redirect Notice

 

[Cholo]

purebred, what is meant by the link "Redirect Notice"?

I recommend no one click that link until purebred responds.

 

[protoolman]

He's linking you to an auction for an h&r shotgun that looks like the OP's. Click on the link.

 

[Cholo]

Thanks. It looked a little weird.

 

[purebred]

purebred, what is meant by the link "Redirect Notice"?

I recommend no one click that link until purebred responds.

It takes you to an auction site where a H&R 40 inch shotgun is shown. I wanted to show it because it is a 40 inch H&R and also called a Long Tom. I tried to post it as a link but this is how it popped up.