Gee I don't know the quality issue that didn't exist 5 years ago. Barrel peening is becoming more and more of an issue. It should never happen to the level it is happening with Rugers. No other major manufacturer has issues to the point Ruger does. I love my Rugers I am just disappointed.
Ruger SR9 Peening Problem
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Bearcat
i contacted ruger cs over this problem also. got the same response as bearcat. i've smithed for 25 years and retired. not ruger certif but found the problem with dykem. it is a timing issue. on many custom 1911s that i worked on, customers installed there own barrels. i found locking lugs peened in the same way. bad timing and soft steel. ruger cs didn't know what i was talking about, neither did tech support. they acted like it was my fault. my sr9 was purchased oct 2012. i like it alot. i like it better sinced i fixed it. had to fire up lathe and mill, but it is right. fixed the proper way.
modrifle3 said:
If that kind of metal to metal battering is normal .... as Ruger says .... the solution is as simple as two letters .... CZ ...
I wouldn't own a gun that did that, but that may be because NONE of my 50+ guns do it.
Having said that ... if you have one and like it ... don't worry about it.
REV
Looks just like mine after a couple thousand rounds - I started seeing it withing the first hundred or so and hasn't progressed since then. I have used a small stone and some emory paper to smooth the rough edges in the past, but I've come to accept it, as it doesn't affect my guns reliability or accuracy as far as I can tell. I wouldn't worry about it unless it just bugs you to have some metal wear.
Fatmax - your pictures do look worse than mine........I have a first generation full size SR9.
Fatmax - your pictures do look worse than mine........I have a first generation full size SR9.
Leucoandro
Single-Sixer
modrifle3 said:
modrifle3 said:
Checked my Sig P226 (German mfg). No Peening on barrel or slide. Just sort of a polishing of mating surfaces
Checked my Sig P220 (German mfg). Peening on left side of barrel. No apparent peening on slide
Checked my Glock 17G4. Very minor peening on the barrel. Peening full length of slide/barrel mating surface on slide
Checked my Glock 21G4. No apparent peening of barrel, just polishing from mating surfaces. Peening full length of slide/barrel mating surface on slide
Older Sig P226's had some issues -- http://www.cybershooters.org/dgca/sig-sauer_p226.htm
Here us some History with Glock (They have issues too, but they seem cover them up).
Some models of Glock are only made to use glock lights, and have reliability issues when used with surefire, etc. Fixed for LEO's, not for civilians
http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/389232-post1.html
Some other problems with Glock
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/problems.html
Sometimes you do get lemons
http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/391787-post15.html
Glock Gen 4 Spring issues
http://us.glock.com/customer-service/recoil-spring-exchange
I do not have specifics on the XDm's but I seem to recall some accuracy issues when they first came out.
I do not have specifics on the CZ but I seem to recall some models/calibers could be far less than accurate.
Charlie
Leucoandro
Single-Sixer
Rev,
Thanks for that...not sure I can say it is a 40S&W issue though. I have a friend with a Springfield EMP in 40S&W, and it is spot on accurate...Thought I heard of complants about SP-01 vs CZ75 accuracy...
The CZ 75 seems less likely to have issues than any other handgun from any other manufacturer that I know of that cost up to twice as much. An HK might be better, but it costs more than 2x.
Charlie
Thanks for that...not sure I can say it is a 40S&W issue though. I have a friend with a Springfield EMP in 40S&W, and it is spot on accurate...Thought I heard of complants about SP-01 vs CZ75 accuracy...
The CZ 75 seems less likely to have issues than any other handgun from any other manufacturer that I know of that cost up to twice as much. An HK might be better, but it costs more than 2x.
Charlie
Leucoandro said:
The absolute ONLY CZ I've had issues with .... or heard of issues with was the 40B.
Cheese is gonna get all up in your face if you denigrate his beloved SP01's.
Honestly though ... never heard of an issue with ANY CZ other than the 40B, which was a collaboration with Colt that just flat out failed.
I don't think the EMP is available in 40 .... just 9 and 45 from my research. I love the EMP's
REV
wingnuut
Bearcat
I checked my sr9 1500 rnds very little peening , none on my m&ps looks like it never shot but my sr9 is my fav.
Cheesewhiz
Hunter
revhigh said:Cheese is gonna get all up in your face if you denigrate his beloved SP01's.
REV
My guess is that anyone that reports bad stuff about a CZ SP-01 is in the business of selling something other than the CZ SP-01. The standard safety model SP-01 can be purchased new for under $600 and will outshoot any gun costing almost three times that much.
I have four SP-01's and am in the process of getting my fifth. I guess I need to read more internet crap about the gun so I can learn something. :roll:
revhigh wrote,
I've seen lots of reports of CZ 75B's in .40S&W with problems. Seems many left the factory with the wrong slide stop. Problems were commonly reported a few years ago. I'm sure it isn't a current problem.
The EMP is only available in 9MM and .40S&W. It is sort of a miniaturized 1911. The grip frame is too small for .45ACP.
Leucoandro
Single-Sixer
revhigh said:The absolute ONLY CZ I've had issues with .... or heard of issues with was the 40B.
Cheese is gonna get all up in your face if you denigrate his beloved SP01's.
Honestly though ... never heard of an issue with ANY CZ other than the 40B, which was a collaboration with Colt that just flat out failed.
I have not tracked much with the CZ's. I have been tempted to pick up a 75 in 9mm from all the things I have heard. I have heard quiet a few people indicate that CZ's in 40S&W were less than impressive.
revhigh said:
You might be thinking of a different pistol. The Springfield EMP is only available n 9mm and 40S&W.
9mm
http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=110
http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=155
40 S&W
http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=137
http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=156
It feels like you are shooting target 9mm loads, when shooting defensive 40S&W loads out of my friends EMP. Accuracy is outstanding for a 3" barreled subcompact. It is more accurate than many full sized pistols I have shot (including glock). Accuracy is on par with my Sig P226.
Charlie
Eddit to add:
Thank you JTQ. Didn't see your post before I posted.
RedFalconBill
Bearcat
revhigh said:Leucoandro said:
Must be alzheimers setting in ... I could have sworn that I've actually SEEN an EMP in 45.
Guess not ... now I have to go check ...
THanks for the correction !
REV
When the EMP was introduced is was to be chambered in the .45 GAP, but since the industry has done a number on that round, Springfield has to get their R&D $ back.
rugerfreak
Single-Sixer
Looks like the SR's are still dogs--I was actually thinking about trying another one---guess not.
Mine was a green frame/blackened slide early model with the "Glock style" trigger---it peened so bad in less than 100 rounds that the slide was held back by the peening----sent it to Ruger--got it back 2 weeks later and promply sold the POS.
Mine was a green frame/blackened slide early model with the "Glock style" trigger---it peened so bad in less than 100 rounds that the slide was held back by the peening----sent it to Ruger--got it back 2 weeks later and promply sold the POS.
Cheesewhiz
Hunter
rugerfreak said:
I still have my first run SR9, it has about the same amount of peening as the pics that Fatmax2 posted in this thread.
My gun has a lot of rounds through it and it still shoots fine. I have seen quite a few SR's over the last 5 years and I would say that Rugers suffer no more than any other guns that have a camblock and a squared off barrel hood that locks in the slide. I do acknowledge that some of the early guns had a worsening peening condition but I don't see that being the case anymore.
ArmedinAZ
Buckeye
Leucoandro said:
Can you clarify your observations highlighted above? Peening is being defined here as metal being deformed away from it's manufactured configuration by colliding with another metal surface. Are you saying you see visible metal deformation on the slide on these pistols or are you seeing polishing where the barrel hood rides the slide? It's hard to imagine metal deformation the full length of the contact surface.
misterdetail
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Can someone confirm what the Ruger customer rep said when shown pictures of the OP's SR9 peening: "The underside of the slide is actually cut like that factory standard to help with the
whole recoil process (metal to metal.)" I purchased my SR9 new in late 2012, have only put 108 rounds through it and can see what appears to be similar peening as on the OP's SR9. I don't have access to a new SR9 to verify if the slide is actually cut like this, as the rep says. Thanks!
whole recoil process (metal to metal.)" I purchased my SR9 new in late 2012, have only put 108 rounds through it and can see what appears to be similar peening as on the OP's SR9. I don't have access to a new SR9 to verify if the slide is actually cut like this, as the rep says. Thanks!
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misterdetail said:
I just bought a new SR9 this month and can confirm that the smooth rounded bevel on the underside of the slide where it meets the block is there from the factory. Mine has no visible wear on that bevelled face.
