Ruger 41 Remington Magnums

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jyo

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You don't know what you are missing. LOL. Before ammo got so damn expensive I would regularly go through 100 rounds per 41 Mag revolver. I can't handle more than 25 rounds of 454 through my Ruger Super Redhawk.
Way back in the mid-90s, I bought my first Freedom Arms 454 Casull revolver to take on my first Alaskan hunting trip with a bunch of locals to hunt moose. I had pretty much mastered the 44 Magnum, but the 454 was a whole new level of power---it took me a few boxes of ammo to become acquainted with the gun (6 1/2" Premier Grade with factory trigger job and factory Magna-porting)---during this time I would go to the range and put at least 50 rds of full-shout 300 grain factory ammo thru the "Beast" as I came to call it... These days, I'm much older and my hands have aged quite a bit and my limit is 10-15 rds, but my other Freedom Arms 454 (4 3/4" Premier Grade bone stock, my favorite revolver) has a factory fitted 45 ACP and 45 Colt cylinders and is a total pleasure to shoot with the 45 ACP cylinder installed... I've never used the 45 Colt cylinder even though I have 6-8 boxes of 45 Colt factory ammo lying around somewhere...
 

planetcat

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My first handgun, bought used in 1996 for $200 was this NMBH .41mag. Serial #27 made in 1973. I carried it on my side on countless bear and hog hunts. Always ran flawlessly. I regrettably sold it a couple years ago. Here’s a pic…
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Onty

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The .41magnum is an awesome cartridge, shines in self defense and hunting....
You are missing "the best of bests" ;); Ruger Bisley 41 Magnum, especially with fluted cylinder.

This statement hits squarely facts about 41 magnum:

The .41 Remington Magnum is the best revolver cartridge. Period. A bold statement given there are so many other good, useful revolver rounds out there. The truth is, when all factors are weighed- lethality, accuracy, recoil, and versatility- nothing eclipses the .41 Rem. Mag.


As for CCW, IMO 41 Magnum is not practilal, requires large revolver. However, for anything else, it tops, especially as outdoor and a hunting round, assuming proper bullet is used:

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Lunch it as flat point version at 1100 or more fps, it will go right through even full grown cow, see discussion here https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/revolver-for-handgun-hunting-another-view.903836/ .

Paco Kelly has something to say "41 MAGNUM.... (SUNDAY'S CHILD)" https://leverguns.com/articles/paco/41magnum.htm .
 
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I have that 265 grain MP mold...simply excellent. 21.0 grains of H110 moves it right along...

It is a little too much in the way of recoil for S&Ws and Blackhawks but in an all steel Ruger Bisley, Hunter or Freedom Arms 83 it is a stomper...

Bob
 

Onty

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I have that 265 grain MP mold...simply excellent. 21.0 grains of H110 moves it right along...

It is a little too much in the way of recoil for S&Ws and Blackhawks but in an all steel Ruger Bisley, Hunter or Freedom Arms 83 it is a stomper...

Bob
I just checked Hodgdon loads website. Their maximum of H1100/W296 for 265 grains bullet is 20.8 grains and velocity is 1540 fps, although from 10.125" barrel. If fired from 7.5" barrel revolver, I guess velocity should be at least 1300-1350 fps (hope more knowledgeable forum members will correct me if I am wrong). Yeah, that is a stomper by any yardstick, I would say on both ends, when fired from S&W or Blackhawk.

What caught my attention is a starting load; 19.5 grains, velocity 1410 fps, corrected to 7.5" revolver around 1200 fps. If 45-454424, with muzzle velocity 1100 fps is one shot proposal, that goes right through full grown cow, 41-265, with same, or almost same meplat, at 1200 fps, with 19% more energy, should be even better.

But, look at the pressure for 19.5 grains, it is 24 400 CUP only. This is considerably easier on ears, when fired in a hurry, than 20.8 grains making 37 600 CUP.

My point is that 19.5 grains load should be noticeably easier on hands than full power load, and even from S&W or Blackhawk, shouldn't be too bad. One note: revolver recoil is not just from bullet leaving barrel, but also from powder and reaction created by jet effect of gases. So, everything combined, I wouldn't be surprised if recoil is about 25% less.

I still remember when years ago I was testing 45-325 SWC with 2 grease grooves. Velocity was about 1050-1100, according to load data. For me, from Bisley, that was just a bit stiff load, but perfectly manageable. For another shooter, about 20 older, that was more than he liked. I am sure that these days, shooting same load, I will have same opinion as he did.
 
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My first centerfire handgun was a 6-1/2" OM .41 magnum Blackhawk I purchased new shortly after Christmas of 1966. The first box of ammo taught me about handgun recoil . . . and the price of ammo, leading to the purchase of a LEE "tap tap BANG" hand loading kit; so it also got me into reloading.

Shot the gun a lot as I was able to buy components occasionally. Went thru a lot of components over the next several years, had a lot of fun with the gun . . . still have it. When the OM Blackhawks in .45 Colt came out I bought one and never looked back. Nothing wrong with the .41 but the .45 just suited me better. I later stumbled upon a LNIB 4-5/8" OM in .41 and snatched it up to "complete the set", but no "brassies" . . . yet.

Great guns, glad WBR decided to offer them. 😁
 

Onty

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From a S&W 57 4":

265 gr. MP TruShot Clone/21.0 H110: 1165

From 10.125" long barrel, and if solid (no gap), no wonder that for the same load velocity is almost 400 fps more.
 

Xstang77

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I treated myself for my birthday this past spring when I came upon one of those unwanted 41's at a new to me lgs.
Early 70's 3 screw that had been converted,they struggled to get it gone so made me a deal for $600 otd.
The original owner never was able to find ammo much for it. There's one blemish on the barrel,bluing is 99%, looks like the day it left ruger.
I fumbled through my first unconversion on it and have been enjoying it since.
 

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