Ruger 3 screw Blackhawks.

SteveSt

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Hello Ruger Fans.

I have fallen in love with Old model, 3 screw, Ruger Blackhawks and have acquired 4 so far.

Top to bottom.
357 mag.
41 mag
44 mag
45 Colt.

The 45 Colt has the ejector missing from it due to a broken screw. Repairs are "planned soon"
The 44 has a Vent Barrel attachment on it. It helps find the sight and I like it.

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Welcome to the Forum!

Nice bunch of Old Models you have there. Here's a little info for you about them.

The .357 is an honest good looking shooter,, and was likely made in 1966.

The .41 mag was made in 1970,, and someone added a rifle front sight to it. The .41's are what many serious handgunners call the best sleeper caliber.

The .44 mag Super Blackhawk was likely made in 1972. Someone added an aftermarket vent rib, which is easily removed is desired. They used a "sticky tape" to attach those if I recall correctly. And again, if my memory is correct,, Pachmyer made them. No longer available. It's also wearing the Pachmyer "baby buggy bumper" grips (as our esteemed & respected past owner here who has joined the Rugers & other shooters in heaven liked to call the grips.) Someone also added the red insert on the front sight.

The .45 Colt,, is hard to tell when it was made but either in 1972 or 1973. The serial number isn't easily read. BUT.... those OM's were made in a little less quantity than the .44 Flattops of the early years. Very desirable. Make sure you get the repairs done RIGHT. There are specific parts that are necessary to fix it correctly. A broken screw needs to be carefully extracted,, and then the proper screw, ejector, and housing can be replaced.

A nice bunch of shooters for sure. While (2) of them have modifications that would require a re-blueing (the .41 & the 44,) due to the way the front sights have been done, they are still good ones to have!
 
If you think of those items above the barrel as "antlers" instead of front sights or vent ribs, it makes it seem more Christmas-like.
That makes these guns kinda like presents, and who doesn't like presents? Shoot them every chance you get, especially that .41!
 
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I have a flat top three screw 357 made in 1959, and a 45 Colt three screw made in 1972. The 45 had oversize chambers that slightly bulged the cases. I sent it back to Ruger who replaced the cylinder at no charge but updated the safety. No choice they wouldn't touch it unless I agreed.
 
I have a flat top three screw 357 made in 1959, and a 45 Colt three screw made in 1972. The 45 had oversize chambers that slightly bulged the cases. I sent it back to Ruger who replaced the cylinder at no charge but updated the safety. No choice they wouldn't touch it unless I agreed.
DID THEY RETURN THE ORIGINAL PARTS?
lOOK UNDER THE FOLDED-OVER FLAP IN THE RETURN BOX (TOP PORTION)

j.
 
Johnnu2, yes they did. I have no complaint, they replaced the cylinder at no cost. Aligns and has tight chambers. I miss the four clicks but can now carry six safly.
 
Oldhand,, you can easily reverse the conversion Ruger did and make it a sweet 4-click action again. You have your parts,, and it's just a matter of swapping them back in. When the conversion is done,, there is no modification to the gun itself.
So, swap them back, then load one, skip one, load four, fully cock & lower the hammer on an empty chamber.
 
Thanks, I know the procedure as I have owned this three screw for 30 years. Also have the 357 unmolested flat top. Just don't feel comfortable taken her apart. Shoots fine as is. Could take her to a gun Smith friend of mine. We will see.
 
Johnnu2, yes they did. I have no complaint, they replaced the cylinder at no cost. Aligns and has tight chambers. I miss the four clicks but can now carry six safly.
Oldhand......... just FYI, your old parts are easily worth $125-$150 to those of us who keep them in our "stash" so we can convert-back guns we find that have been "safety" converted. If you decide to sell, you can put them in our Classifieds section (you may need to attain a certain "post rate" before you can do that (?). Personally, I would keep them to enhance the value of your gun if you decide to re-sell it.
J.
 
I have a 3 screw from '68 that I bought at gunshow and it had been "updated" with transfer bar, etc. I wanted to take it back to original and the folks on this forum helped me get that done. Great resources here.
 
Thanks for the info guys, but I could never sell this gun. You see it was made March of 1972. Same month and year we were married. She has passed on after 50 years of marriage. It was our anniversary gun in our thoughts. She bought the Ivory grips in the avatar for another anniversary. I might reverse the safety back at a later date.
 
Oldhand,, good to know you understand the OM's and loading & all. I hope you weren't offended by my post. You being new,, (here) we try to assist with good info. And many of us can appreciate the sentiment attached to the gun! Keep it and the parts together.
As for swapping out the parts,, it's actually very easy as compared to many other guns. In fact,, the OM's are VERY enjoyable to work on because they are so simple. Even easier than the New Model Rugers. An owners manual, several online videos, and other resources are out there. My single best advice part is to use PROPERLY fitting screwdrivers. If you don't have those,, then your gunsmith friend will have them.
Heck,, search around here,, I'm sure there's an old post with the simple procedure on how to take one apart, and re-assemble it. Truly,, it's not a hard thing to do.
 
Contender, I have the needed screw driver set gotten from Midwayusa many moons ago. No offence on this end. Thanks for the help.
 
Thanks for the info guys, but I could never sell this gun. You see it was made March of 1972. Same month and year we were married. She has passed on after 50 years of marriage. It was our anniversary gun in our thoughts. She bought the Ivory grips in the avatar for another anniversary. I might reverse the safety back at a later date.
Oldhand, I'm sorry for your loss; 50 years together is a milestone. May you always retain fond memories every time you hold it. Hopefully you have someone to pass it down to as well.
 
Excellent. Family heirlooms are often appreciated by those who receive them. Make sure you tell your son as many details as you can about the gun, and what it means to you.

And as I've mentioned,, a reversal of the parts to the original lockwork is not hard at all. Since you have a good set of screwdrivers,, you can get the manual (ask Ruger,, they send reprints out for free.) Then, study the procedure for disassembly. Again, it's not hard.
One thing I always do,, is as I remove screws, I lay them in the same pattern on my bench as they will go back in the gun.

I always start any disassembly by removing the cylinder & base pin.

Another tip. The grips. All too often,, people over tighten the grip screw. It results in breaking the INSIDE of a grip panel. I add a "grip screw spacer" in between the panels on the inside. I buy nylon 1/2" long spacers at a local hardware store. Just big enough in diameter to have a hole for the screw. I then carefully file away about .003-.005 of the spacer. This is because the grip frame will often be just a hair smaller than 1/2" wide due to the factory polishing when it was made. The spacers keep me or anyone else from ever over tightening the grip screw.

But once you remove the grips,, you cock the hammer, insert a small nail or similar piece of steel in the hole of the mainspring strut. Then while holding the hammer, pull the trigger, and lower the hammer to where the mainspring assy is captured compressed.
After that,, the 5 screws in the grip frame can be easily removed. NOTE: at the edge of the hammer, on the left side is a small spring with a small pin in a hole in the mainframe. Make sure you pull this out and lay it beside the screw where it came from. It's the pawl spring & plunger.

Following that,, the 3 screws in the side of the main frame that holds the lockwork can easily be removed,, and the conversion parts removed. Reverse the dis-assembly process, and you'll have your gun back to "as built" from the factory.

The sequence;
Base pin & cylinder
Grips
Capture the mainspring assy
Grip frame screws
Pull grip frame & mainspring assy
Small spring & pin removal, (pawl spring & plunger)
Remove Hammer pivot screw & hammer
Remove trigger pivot screw & trigger
The 3rd screw,,, before removing it,, you will see a small "cylinder latch spring" with a leg of it in a hole in the frame. Gently pull the leg out of the hole, (a small screwdriver or needle nose pliers work just fine.) then you can remove the 3rd screw, and the cylinder latch & spring.
Another note; In the grip frame,, you will see a small plunger that is spring loaded sticking up near the trigger guard. Normally they don't fall out,, but they can. When you remove the grip frame,, make sure that plunger & spring stay there. Or if it comes out,, make sure you re-install it prior to reassembly.

Honestly,, I can do it in just about the same time as it took me to type this. It's truly not hard at all. And again,, a manual has these steps in it too!

If I seem like I'm "pushing" you towards returning the gun to it's original as shipped condition, my apologies. I'm not wanting to seem pushy. It's just that all too often,, I see guns missing their original parts, and the expense of replacing them in a Blackhawk can be $150 average. And so far,, all the converted guns I've handled,, did not have the same smooth action feel as an original action. Besides,, when you got that gun,,it was "original" and wouldn't it be nice to return it to that condition? :D
 
LOVE the "tic-tac-toe" sound when cocking one! My favorites after Colt SAA (or, maybe slightly above them?)
 

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