Convert/update 3 screw?

Looks like a good solid shooter,, and you will enjoy it. The "wear" is just character. Honest & shows it was used a bit. I don't see a problem.

Dressing it with a new set of grips is perfectly fine,, and as mentioned, save the originals.

Once you get it,, and feel the action,, you will most likely see why we all say "leave it alone." The smoothness of an OM action is why we prefer such things.
Plus,, if internal stuff is necessary,, they are the easiest to work on.
And for a gun that hasn't been made in over 50 years,, leaving it as it was designed & built,, allows an appreciation for the genius of Bill Ruger.

A note; The safety transfer bar system came along because too many IDIOTS didn't learn how to properly handle & load an OM (or a Colt & others,) & got hurt. So Bill designed the NM's.
Later on,, Bill got sued,, and lost because the judge said that Ruger "Knew they had a defective design, and had changed it to a safer design." All while ignoring historical facts, of how to safely load & carry a SA handgun.
Bill got pizzed,, and designed the "upgrade" to help thwart future lawsuits.
The transfer bar stuff for an OM works,, but doesn't have the same smoothness in the action.
And the NM design,, requires a good gunsmith to make one of them as slick & smooth as an OM.

That gun is an honest user of a fine OM Ruger & will make you smile as you enjoy it,, "as is"!!
Well, maybe with a different set of grips to your liking. :D
 
The original grips will go in my shooting box with a couple other sets and multiple assorted other things. In part to keep them as nice/new/fresh as they are now and in part because I like the rosewood best.
 
Randyzzz said:
I was watching that one. You got a good one there. The seller, Troy, is a great guy too. And if this is indeed the one I was watching, you got a great price.
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It's the one. And I really like Troy from another forum we both frequent. And yes, even after all the GB add-ons it still was a good buy. I'm very pleased, and a little surprised, to get it. I thought sure someone would be along at the last minute to outbid me. My first GB adventure.
 
Not only no! But hell naw! Why would you even consider it? If you want to new single action, go buy one.
 
Once more for those who missed it the first time. I didn't know if there was some reason why converting was strongly recommended or not. The easiest for me and least expensive for me is leave it alone. So since there's no safety reason for actual shooting suggesting convert it that's it. Easy. Leave it be.

I won't be carrying it except for empty to the range. If I ever am going to carry it afield then it's Load-Skip-Load-Load-Load-Load. Afield has about a 0.01037% probability. But never say never. So it's just a matter of (patiently HAHAHA) awaiting its arrival.
 
"I didn't know if there was some reason why converting was strongly recommended or not."

I think I laid it out with the history of how the transfer bar design came into being.

But to those of us who have enjoyed the smooth action design vs the NM design,, or the even worse feeling conversion design, we've given you our opinion.
Bill Ruger built the conversion to avoid costly lawsuits and paying lawyers. He would recommend it,, because it went to his company bottom line. The consumers,, who like the OM's hate the feeling of it, and fell it's stupid people who fail to educate themselves on how to safely use an OM,, (or a Colt or Colt clone.)
 
Yes, you did fine. And I have no interest in converting unless a reason previously unknown to me suggests otherwise. And since it doesn't my lazy/cheap nature is assuaged. Leave it along and save work and expense. Win-win.
 
Don't do it, my dad sent in several of his and they came back with horrible trigger pulls. Gritty and harder pull. After he passed I converted them all back to the original parts.
My last couple of local purchases and they will stay unconverted.

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I didn't know if there was some reason why converting was strongly recommended or not.
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There are plenty of tales of dudes who blew a big chunk from their leg with a revolver that didn't have a transfer bar.

The conversion seems to result in a less than ideal trigger, relative to the original.

We all gotta make our own beds....and sleep in them ;)
 
"There are plenty of tales of dudes who blew a big chunk from their leg with a revolver that didn't have a transfer bar."

That's because they had their fingers on the hammer & it slipped, and or they pulled the trigger when they shouldn't have.

Idiots who FAILED to understand the SAFE way to handle the workings of an OM, or a Colt, or a Colt clone.
 
contender said:
"There are plenty of tales of dudes who blew a big chunk from their leg with a revolver that didn't have a transfer bar."

That's because they had their fingers on the hammer & it slipped, and or they pulled the trigger when they shouldn't have.

Idiots who FAILED to understand the SAFE way to handle the workings of an OM, or a Colt, or a Colt clone.
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:poop: happens

We all gotta make our own beds....and sleep in them ;)
 
Anyone like to comment on what the percentage of "STUPID" is in our national population? I think it might be extremely high........ (and perhaps the reason for a transfer bar option?)...
just sayin'

J.
 
I heard an explanation of "stupid" long ago.

It went something like;

A person is stupid when an education is offered or available,, yet ignored or refused because that person doesn't want to be viewed as un-educated. And yet,, that's exactly what they are.

I will be the very first to stand & say I've done some stupid things in my life.

But I've also learned at a young age to ask questions & listen to the knowledgeable ones when they answer the questions. In short,, put another way is; "There are no stupid questions,, just stupid answers or people who refuse to ask the questions!"
 
Convert to .44 Special? Heck ya!

Convert to transfer bar? No way.
 
t-reg said:
Convert to .44 Special? Heck ya!
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Always figured if I ever came across a .357 flattop that was a total rustbucket having been dragged on a chain behind a pickup truck over forty miles of salty gravel roads and then left out in bad weather for a few years and could be bought cheap I might be tempted to make a lowball offer so I could restore it and covert it to .44 Special without a transfer bar . . . because Skeeter would approve. ;)

Might not even restore the exterior finish, just the action and bore. 😁
 
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Can someone explain how allowing Ruger to install drop-in parts and gives you the old parts transforms the gun into a less valuable possession? How long to swap the old parts back in? 30 minutes?

It's like telling someone not to wear a leather strap on their Rolex because it will "ruin" the value. Huh?



Why do it? Because your grandson might mishandle that gun at the range someday, and a free transfer bar safety might have saved his life.

But if you buy guns to keep them in safes, sure, leave it as is.
 
Actually,, it doesn't change the value of an OM if it gets the conversion parts,, as long as the original parts are also with it. In general,, most of the time,, yes,, Ruger does return the old parts. But I have heard of them not being returned a few times.

And as for "Why do it?" Well, if my son, my grandson or granddaughter were to handle it,, they will already have the proper education on how to safely handle it, load it & keep it from getting a dreaded turn line.
 
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Actually,, it doesn't change the value of an OM if it gets the conversion parts,, as long as the original parts are also with it. In general,, most of the time,, yes,, Ruger does return the old parts. But I have heard of them not being returned a few times.

And as for "Why do it?" Well, if my son, my grandson or granddaughter were to handle it,, they will already have the proper education on how to safely handle it, load it & keep it from getting a dreaded turn line.
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Only thing I would add, and Contender, you would know better than I, but doesn't Ruger "stamp" the frame in some location once they do a conversion? If so, would this not indicate it had been done and perhaps mar the value? Others are more knowledgeable than I on this.
 
Lt Choate said:
Only thing I would add, and Contender, you would know better than I, but doesn't Ruger "stamp" the frame in some location once they do a conversion? If so, would this not indicate it had been done and perhaps mar the value? Others are more knowledgeable than I on this.
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No, they do not mark the gun. Not only would doing so deter people getting the upgrade, it would be a false sign of modification if the original parts were re-installed.

https://ruger.com/pdf/safetyOfferAd.pdf



Anyone who thinks kids are infallible probably thinks they are also infallible.
 
All that blurb from Ruger says is that "The frame and other major parts will not be affected by this Conversion."

They played that phrase very carefully. The gun may not be "affected" but they do in fact stamp the inside of the frame with a big "R" indicating that the gun has had the conversion installed. ;) The stamp is not visible without removing the grip frame.

The "The value of the gun will not be impaired" comment is open for discussion. 🤣
 
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RX-79G said:
No, they do not mark the gun. Not only would doing so deter people getting the upgrade, it would be a false sign of modification if the original parts were re-installed.

https://ruger.com/pdf/safetyOfferAd.pdf



Anyone who thinks kids are infallible probably thinks they are also infallible.
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It's NOT an upgrade.
You get the gun back with an action similar to an arrow staple gun.
I grew up shooting Colts, and Old Model Ruger Single actions. My Dad taught me how to handle them properly, and I taught my two boys the same, and they have passed that knowledge on to their kids as well.
If you're the kind to wrap your kids/grandkids up in bubble wrap, then perhaps a safer hobby than firearms should be considered. Because all guns are dangerous if handled improperly.
 
Ale-8(1) said:
All that blurb from Ruger says is that "The frame and other major parts will not be affected by this Conversion."

They played that phrase very carefully. The gun may not be "affected" but they do in fact stamp the inside of the frame with a big "R" indicating that the gun has had the conversion installed. ;) The stamp is not visible without removing the grip frame.

The "The value of the gun will not be impaired" comment is open for discussion. 🤣
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I thought that was the case. Thank you for verifying.
 
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