P-85 ?
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berettapistols
Blackhawk
Other than a trigger job or custom aftermarket barrel I can't think of any great improvements that could be made to the P-Series..
There beefy & the parts are robust..
A good set of Hogue grips might be the best thing you could do to one to make it shoot better..
Others may chime in with a better answer..
I built a P-89 up from scratch about a week ago & haven't been to the range with it YET!!
I also put a modified P-95 Trigger in it which I really like..
Good Luck copen!!
Gary/bp
There beefy & the parts are robust..
A good set of Hogue grips might be the best thing you could do to one to make it shoot better..
Others may chime in with a better answer..
I built a P-89 up from scratch about a week ago & haven't been to the range with it YET!!
I also put a modified P-95 Trigger in it which I really like..
Good Luck copen!!
Gary/bp
Thanks Gary.
This isn't a project near the top of my to do list. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of accessories available for improvements.
Guess it's a silk purse out of a sow's ear type thing. Just curious if anyone had made any significant improvements on their P-85's.
Thanks again.
This isn't a project near the top of my to do list. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of accessories available for improvements.
Guess it's a silk purse out of a sow's ear type thing. Just curious if anyone had made any significant improvements on their P-85's.
Thanks again.
9isFine
Bearcat
You can polish the barrel and the trigger pivots. Dont polish the left side of the breach (side without the proof mark) as this is the lockup side. You can also polish the tab that inserts into the trigger bar. but really "it is what it is"
btrumanj
Single-Sixer
A set of adjustable sights might help some shooters a bit. 
Cheesewhiz
Hunter
btrumanj said:A set of adjustable sights might help some shooters a bit.
....or maybe "smart bullets", where's Anthony when you need him?
berettapistols
Blackhawk
You could probably get more out of spending a day at the range with a hundred dollars worth of ammo & some targets..
Shoot till you trigger finger is sore..
Shoot till you trigger finger is sore..
jrod
Bearcat
I've used a little high temp,high pressure,red bearing grease around the barrel at the bushing end.It cuts group size way down.Like one ragged hole... 
jrod
Bearcat
I've used a little high temp,high pressure,red bearing grease around the barrel at the bushing end.It cuts group size way down.Like one ragged hole...
berettapistols
Blackhawk
I don't see how grease on the barrel could shrink groups but anything is possible.. One ragged Hole Huh?? Oh My!! Gonna Try It!!
Gary/bp
Gary/bp
This is what I have found to be very effective in making my P85 more accurate. When I am at the range standing on the 25yd line, I take four or five long steps (and I have long legs at 6ft6in tall) towards the target. This simple technique easily shrinks my groups by two inches!
No, as others have stated a P85 or P89 sort of "is what it is". Still, I know that I would be very interested if you find some tricks to slick yours up, post some pictures and share.
No, as others have stated a P85 or P89 sort of "is what it is". Still, I know that I would be very interested if you find some tricks to slick yours up, post some pictures and share.
btrumanj
Single-Sixer
Cheesewhiz said:btrumanj said:A set of adjustable sights might help some shooters a bit.
....or maybe "smart bullets", where's Anthony when you need him?
Old Anthony don't worry about better accuracy in a P85, he just throws 'em in the lake. :lol:
Cheesewhiz
Hunter
btrumanj said:Cheesewhiz said:btrumanj said:A set of adjustable sights might help some shooters a bit.
....or maybe "smart bullets", where's Anthony when you need him?
Old Anthony don't worry about better accuracy in a P85, he just throws 'em in the lake. :lol:
His gun has been 'drowneded'.
You should know, I had a ball with mine but not very accurate.
btrumanj
Single-Sixer
MY P5 was/is no target pistol but as long as I can keep most of my shots inside of a saucer at 7 to 15 yds I'm happy with it. In all truth, some other brands won't do a heckuva lot better.
BT
BT
Cheesewhiz
Hunter
btrumanj said:MY P5 was/is no target pistol but as long as I can keep most of my shots inside of a saucer at 7 to 15 yds I'm happy with it. In all truth, some other brands won't do a heckuva lot better.
BT
I agree with that, I know of and have shot a couple or more premium priced, so called top of the line pistols that kinda, well they sucked actually.
Cheesewhiz said:btrumanj said:MY P5 was/is no target pistol but as long as I can keep most of my shots inside of a saucer at 7 to 15 yds I'm happy with it. In all truth, some other brands won't do a heckuva lot better.
BT
I agree with that, I know of and have shot a couple or more premium priced, so called top of the line pistols that kinda, well they sucked actually.
How big of a saucer are you talking about here? My P85 isnt a target gun, but I can keep 'em all on a paper plate at 25yds. If I really work at it I can do a little better. At 7-15yds I could probably keep 'em inside of a softball.
jrod
Bearcat
The grease is kinda like installing a match grade bushing.It takes all the play out.
Cheesewhiz
Hunter
jrod said:
All these years of getting or putting together accurate pistols and all I needed was some accu-grease. I'm such a dummy.
Cheesewhiz
Hunter
sargents1 said:Cheesewhiz said:btrumanj said:MY P5 was/is no target pistol but as long as I can keep most of my shots inside of a saucer at 7 to 15 yds I'm happy with it. In all truth, some other brands won't do a heckuva lot better.
BT
I agree with that, I know of and have shot a couple or more premium priced, so called top of the line pistols that kinda, well they sucked actually.
How big of a saucer are you talking about here? My P85 isnt a target gun, but I can keep 'em all on a paper plate at 25yds. If I really work at it I can do a little better. At 7-15yds I could probably keep 'em inside of a softball.
A softball sized group at less than 50' doesn't make me very happy at all. I like 3" or better groups at 50'.
A regular softball is 3.8" in diameter. That isnt far off your standard and I am talking rough numbers in terms of what my gun will group. When I shoot paper, I have had ten shot groups that were about 6in at 25(ish) yds. Plenty accurate for "social work" as Jeff Quinn calls it. I would hazard a guess that with a more determined shooter (and more patient) and some ammo experimentation you could get this gun to shoot tighter. I just shoot the cheapest ammo I can find and I typically concentrate on practical shooting: plate shoots, (which are usually at 10yds) 3-gun matches, and plinking.
The old Boat Anchor is soft shooting, accurate enough, and 100% reliable (in my experience).
sargents1 said:
I generally say the the accuracy that I expect from my guns (and that I'm capable of) is about the size of a billiard ball or tennis ball offhand at 50 feet. That's about 2.25 - 2.7 inches.
When I read your post, I thought that there's no way a softball is 3.8 inches ... I would have guessed about 5 inches, and I'm betting that's what Cheese was thinking too. Even now that I've confirmed it, it still seems like it would be bigger than that.
Also, the difference between a 3.8 inch circle and a 2.8 inch circle is huge, so although it would seem that there's not much difference between the two descriptions, from a group point of view that's a very large difference.
Softball sized groups would not be acceptable to me either .... a gun that couldn't do better than that would be gone if it were mine.
REV
jrod
Bearcat
ok Rev,I understand the skepticism,I thought the same thing 'til my buddy showed me that trick when I was living in alaska. My P-90 was already a good shooter, But the grease trick showed what that P-90 could really do. I'm still amazed at how many shooters don't shoot past 7-15 yards. I think shooters need to revisit one handed NRA Bullseye shooting and master the basics. New shooters would be amazed at what can be done at 25 & 50 yards. Have a great weekend everyone,and get out to range and practice.
jrod said:
OK jrod ... the P90's ARE great guns, and my guess would be that you just had a better day of shooting than normal, and that the grease ... well ... did nothing ! But it's OK either way.
You gotta admit ... it WAS funny when Cheese called it 'accu-grease' ! LOL.
Have a great weekend yourself !!
REV
jrod
Bearcat
Yup that accu-grease cracked me up too! I knew I shouldn't have told anyone about it. I knew I would catch H--l about it! I'm gonna have to call 'ol Harvey in Fairbanks and tell him about the response to his P-90 secret.
I knew I shouldn't have told anyone about it. I knew I would catch H--l about it! I'm gonna have to call 'ol Harvey in Fairbanks and tell him about the response to his P-90 secret.berettapistols
Blackhawk
Now I understand!!P-90
I will have to try the Accu-Grease jrod..
Thanks again for the Killer TIP..
I will have to try the Accu-Grease jrod..
Thanks again for the Killer TIP..
revhigh said:
The difference between a 3.8in and a 2.8in circle is exactly 1 inch. I wouldn't say that is huge. It certainly didn't make any difference to the raccoon I shot this morning. It took him all of a half a second to expire and flop out of the tree.
I get your point, (1-(2.8/3.8 ) )*100 = 26%. Meaning the gun that is shooting a 2.8in group is 26% more accurate than the one shooting 3.8in.
No doubt about it, that is measurably more accurate. If you are shooting targets in competition and group size counts, then it makes a difference. If you are using your handgun for self defense, or in Dog defense, as was the case this morning, well that 26% doesn't mean anything. Especially when the range is three yards.
Since I am already beating a dead horse, I would like to point out that anyone who can reliably hit a softball at 50ft, and do it quickly when under pressure, is one heck of a good shot and their handgun is plenty accurate.
BTW, is that term Accu-grease trademarked? If its not, someone should jump on that. I can see it now, all the mall-ninjas and internet commandos lining up to get a tube of Accu-grease to slob onto their Glocks.
berettapistols
Blackhawk
I agree..
Need to patten the Accu-Grease Name.. HaHa!!
Won't run drip or sag, stays were you put it..
The Greatest Find in the Firearms Industry in the last 100 years..
John Mosses Browning would have used it if it were around back then..
Need to patten the Accu-Grease Name.. HaHa!!
Won't run drip or sag, stays were you put it..
The Greatest Find in the Firearms Industry in the last 100 years..
John Mosses Browning would have used it if it were around back then..
