what is the difference between 14" contender barrels and ones marked Super 14?
non-ruger question
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Merle1948
Buckeye
dreamer said:
IIRC, the "super 14" was used when they first came out, way back when the 10" was standard. I know of no functional differences. 8)
yup.
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I agree as well.
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Thanks
DA_TriggR4Ruger
Hunter
I've been curious about something for a while and this thread spiked my curiosities again. What differentiates the TC 14 inch from a SBR?
DA_TriggR4Ruger
Hunter
Made me think of the SBR thread.
I guess as long as it has a pistol grip, its considered a pistol? Then once you add a stock it becomes a SBR? And this is also why the Ruger Charger is not called an SBR? But the TCs I have seen had stocks? So are they not SBRs?
I guess as long as it has a pistol grip, its considered a pistol? Then once you add a stock it becomes a SBR? And this is also why the Ruger Charger is not called an SBR? But the TCs I have seen had stocks? So are they not SBRs?
That is was made as a handgun, not a rifle. Same as a 10" Ruger MkII, or Charger.DA_TriggR4Ruger said:
Add the buttstock to 10" or 14" and you have an SBR.
Add a 16" or longer bbl then add the buttstock and all is good.
In the G-2 era there were stipulations on whether it was built as a handgun or long gun. Genuine Contenders don't have that stipulation.
Add a 16" or longer bbl then add the buttstock and all is good.
In the G-2 era there were stipulations on whether it was built as a handgun or long gun. Genuine Contenders don't have that stipulation.
Merle1948
Buckeye
DA_TriggR4Ruger said:
Yep, a pistol grip, but no butt stock, makes it a pistol. There is a 16" barrel, that meets the standard for a rifle & I expect that is what you saw. Some folks have used the 16" barrel on a pistol, as there is no maximum length for a pistol barrel - makes a pretty clumsy pistol though!
Didn't Thompson have to make changes in the barrel/stock attachment to satisfy the ATF when they began making rifles? I don't remember the details but IIRC they couldn't just add a butt stock and a 16" barrel. Since your avitar has the TC, I'm guessing you know the history better than me.Dan in MI said:
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"In the G-2 era there were stipulations on whether it was built as a handgun or long gun. Genuine Contenders don't have that stipulation."
DAN,,Thanks, good to know!
Always wanted a TC Contender back in the day, but money was tight.
When the G-2 model was announced.....
I RUSHED TO EVERY GUN SHOP to find a NEW G-1 .......(handgun version)
Got one of the last ones out there locally.
{Had no idea about those legal changes.......
I saw the difference in the trigger adjustment design.}
I never did get around to to buying the rifle conversions,but glad to know I still can without hassle.
As I live in OHIO,
I bought 3 Super 14 barrels that cover all my shooting needs.
A .22 match grade barrel...
A .223 Barrel........and.....
A .44 magnum barrel.......
Those 3 both cover any game that walks in OHIO, and are fun at the range.
DAN,,Thanks, good to know!
Always wanted a TC Contender back in the day, but money was tight.
When the G-2 model was announced.....
I RUSHED TO EVERY GUN SHOP to find a NEW G-1 .......(handgun version)
Got one of the last ones out there locally.
{Had no idea about those legal changes.......
I saw the difference in the trigger adjustment design.}
I never did get around to to buying the rifle conversions,but glad to know I still can without hassle.
As I live in OHIO,
I bought 3 Super 14 barrels that cover all my shooting needs.
A .22 match grade barrel...
A .223 Barrel........and.....
A .44 magnum barrel.......
Those 3 both cover any game that walks in OHIO, and are fun at the range.
DA_TriggR4Ruger
Hunter
pyth0n said:Didn't Thompson have to make changes in the barrel/stock attachment to satisfy the ATF when they began making rifles? I don't remember the details but IIRC they couldn't just add a butt stock and a 16" barrel. Since your avitar has the TC, I'm guessing you know the history better than me.Dan in MI said:
I remember a BIG shitstorm between the ATF and Thomson Center about this YEARS AGO. As i recall TC won their case and the ATF had to change some of their policies!
Thanks. Good to hear TC won.DA_TriggR4Ruger said:pyth0n said:Didn't Thompson have to make changes in the barrel/stock attachment to satisfy the ATF when they began making rifles? I don't remember the details but IIRC they couldn't just add a butt stock and a 16" barrel. Since your avitar has the TC, I'm guessing you know the history better than me.Dan in MI said:
I remember a BIG shitstorm between the ATF and Thomson Center about this YEARS AGO. As i recall TC won their case and the ATF had to change some of their policies!
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I believe the issue with the feds was that the Contender chambered in .410 was a sawed off shotgun. They fought a long expensive battle that paved the way for the .410 revolvers that came next.
Merle1948
Buckeye
eveled said:
IIRC the rifling derailed the "shotgun" argument. But there was also a question of taking off a rifle set-up then installing a pistol barrel - is that considered a "sawed off" weapon?
Merle1948 said:
That puts you in short barrled rifle (SBR) land. Not a good plan.
The best way to convert a T/C is grip/buttstock "off first" and "on last" when changing configs. This prevents a 10 second brain fart violation from becoming a 20 year sentence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Thompson-Center_Arms_Company
