No one proofreads

[Fox Mike]

No one seems to read their own article before it is reported. Below is an example. There was an altercation and the police were called. A photo showed the left front window shattered. The story, in part, was as follows.

"A gunshot that hit the Sheriff's officer's vehicle is believed to have been fired out of a sedan that left before the deputy arrived."

Now, I ask, how can the deputy's car be hit before it arrived?

 

[Montelores]

Did the deputy arrive on foot?

Was he transported in a vehicle other than "the Sheriff's officer's vehicle?"

Does the department own more than 1 car?

Maybe the deputy arrived by helicopter?

Possibly the writer intends to say that the vehicle in which the deputy arrived had not yet "arrived" (had come to a complete stop) but was shot from a distance, while approaching?

Can a "gunshot" actually impact an object?

So many questions...

:wink:

Monty

 

[roarindan51]

American Airlines is launching seasonal service out of Burlington International Airport to Miami International Airport later this year.


The carrier is only planning to run the service once a week on Saturdays.

this just came over the air while reading the OP.

 

[Rick Courtright]

No one seems to read their own article before it is reported. Below is an example. There was an altercation and the police were called. A photo showed the left front window shattered. The story, in part, was as follows.

"A gunshot that hit the Sheriff's officer's vehicle is believed to have been fired out of a sedan that left before the deputy arrived."

Now, I ask, how can the deputy's car be hit before it arrived?

Hi,

Back in the days of newspapers, they had editors and proofreaders. With small papers I imagine it was common for the same person to do both jobs. In the digital news, we still need both those jobs done, but everybody's gotten in such a hurry to get the wrong version of whatever happened out there nanoseconds before the competition I wonder if either position still exists. "Hey, I hit 'spell check', what do you want?."

Don Henley's song "Dirty Laundry" is probably more spot on today concerning at least some of this subject than 30+ years ago when he wrote it!

Edited for style sheet compliance.

Rick C

 

[Snake45]

Don Henley's song Dirty Laundry is probably more spot on today concerning at least some of this subject than 30+ years ago when he wrote it!

As an actual professional editor, I can tell you that song titles such as "Dirty Laundry" get quotation marks, not italics (or underlines, if you're writing by hand). The album on which it appears, I Can't Stand Still, would properly be italicized, or again, if you're hand-writing (or working on an old typewriter), underlined.

If you're working at a keyboard or computer with the capability to apply italics, there is no reason ever to use the underlining function. Well, at least I can't think of or imagine one. :wink:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Laundry_(Don_Henley_song)

Now you too can cite things like a pro! :wink:

 

[Pat-inCO]

No one seems to read their own article before it is reported.

While I understand your point, is it that they do not proof read, or that they speak
such poor English that they are incapable of understanding the difference? :shock:

 

[Quarterbore]

I prefer Fox News over the others but they are absolutely terrible. Their articles online commonly are incomplete sentences, thoughts or so ambiguous you have to guess what the author meant to say.

Then, those idiots can never get the correct video linked. They will say something like “video of Biden chewing cud” and the video in the article will be their topography the hour news and nothing to do with the article.

I have started using BBC’s news app as there is no way I will turn to fake news CNN or MSNBC and the rest irritate me for their pro Biden bias although that is starting to show cracks.

Fox needs to find a few employees that actually have degrees where they learned to write and find an editor to look at the level of stupid they put out.

 

[bobski]

its the quality of the education system. a slow twist downward is occurring. its happening so slow it wont be noticed; and, mistakes become the norm. the blame is put on technology for not autocorrecting it. we, (the older guys,) see it and pick up on it faster.... since we are from the days when education meant something. we are the enemy. welcome to communism.

 

[mr surveyor]

No one seems to read their own article before it is reported. Below is an example. There was an altercation and the police were called. A photo showed the left front window shattered. The story, in part, was as follows.

"A gunshot that hit the Sheriff's officer's vehicle is believed to have been fired out of a sedan that left before the deputy arrived."

Now, I ask, how can the deputy's car be hit before it arrived?

I finally understand the details surrounding the vehicle shooting. It had to be that the round fired from the sedan was a really low velocity round ....


jd

 

[LDM]

Just shows how badly "journalism" has declined. When good grammar and correct math answers are now considered racist, things will only get worse.

 

[Buckshot Bill]

Journalism and grammar indeed!
What REALLY lights me up is when you're listening to the local "news" and the supposed "educated" talking heads start their sentence with - The firefighters THEY, or the police officers THEY!!!
I can't believe the station mgr. or whoever is in charge allows this. But then, maybe they themselves aren't educated well enough to realize such poor grammar.
How they are allowed to continually get away with that just amazes me. :roll:
Just shows how education has gone to hell in this country.
BB

 

[Rick Courtright]

Don Henley's song Dirty Laundry is probably more spot on today concerning at least some of this subject than 30+ years ago when he wrote it!

As an actual professional editor, I can tell you that song titles such as "Dirty Laundry" get quotation marks, not italics (or underlines, if you're writing by hand).

Hi,

Good catch, Snake! I must have been having a brain pharte since I never underline anything unless it's with a pencil or pen and don't even remember seeing it. This is a perfect example of why I was taught "You never proofread your own work."

Fixed it!

Rick C

 

[Snake45]

BTW, most people here were probably taught to underline book and movie titles (and certain other things) in grade school, but you probably don't know why. Your teacher probably didn't know why, either. :lol:

It's because underlining is the editor's mark for the typesetter to italicize whatever is underlined. The editor's mark for boldface type is a wavy underline.

As I said, since we now have the ability to post in italics and boldface directly, there is no real use for the underline tool that's still in most word processing applications. :wink:

 

[Rick Courtright]

It's because underlining is the editor's mark for the typesetter to italicize whatever is underlined.

Hi,

Whassa a "typesetter?"

Actually I do know: a sorta distant cousin was a typesetter for a Seattle paper for close to 40 years. He retired when they started computerizing all that work. Wish I knew then what I do now, and had asked him to direct a whole bunch of their scrap Linotype (TM) my way!

Rick C

 

[Dave P.]

BTW, most people here were probably taught to underline book and movie titles (and certain other things) in grade school, but you probably don't know why. Your teacher probably didn't know why, either. :lol:

It's because underlining is the editor's mark for the typesetter to italicize whatever is underlined. The editor's mark for boldface type is a wavy underline.

As I said, since we now have the ability to post in italics and boldface directly, there is no real use for the underline tool that's still in most word processing applications. :wink:

I learned something new today. File it in a deep dark corner in my brain only to have it pop to
the surface years or decades from now.
Dave

 

[jimd441]

Regarding the OP, good point and relevant on all fronts; verbiage, grammar spelling etc. We now have software that flags spelling errors and to some extent sentence structure, which I suspect facilitates carelessness and lack of proofreading. I always try to ensure the written integrity of my posts by proofreading, but sometimes learn after I post that I missed typing a word. It can be hard for me to proofread my own writing because I tend to see what I intended to write, not always what I actually wrote. Let me review something someone else wrote and I'll be quick to find fault... :lol:

Jim

 

[RoninPA]

Regarding the OP, good point and relevant on all fronts; verbiage, grammar spelling etc. We now have software that flags spelling errors and to some extent sentence structure, which I suspect facilitates carelessness and lack of proofreading. I always try to ensure the written integrity of my posts by proofreading, but sometimes learn after I post that I missed typing a word. It can be hard for me to proofread my own writing because I tend to see what I intended to write, not always what I actually wrote. Let me review something someone else wrote and I'll be quick to find fault... :lol:

Jim

I was taught when proofing something you wrote to read it backwards first, even little mistakes show up quickly. Then read it forward looking to see if what you wrote makes sense/flows correctly.

 

[jimd441]

Thanks for the tip Ron,

Jim

 

[redhawker]

Probably one of those self-driving cars and it got there before the deputy did.

 

[AzShooter1]

Don't even get me started on Two, to and too. People are just too lazy to proof read their articles or just don't know the differences.

Simple :How, Who, When Where and Why should be followed but they want to get their point off in one sentence that make sense to them but no one else.

 

[Fox Mike]

Don't even get me started on Two, to and too. People are just too lazy to proof read their articles or just don't know the differences.

Simple :How, Who, When Where and Why should be followed but they want to get their point off in one sentence that make sense to them but no one else.

I agree. See and seen are two that too tend to be like fingernails on a blackboard to me.

 

[jimd441]

That remind me of the sentence "After eating his dessert in the desert, the soldier decided to desert"

Jim

 

[Rick Courtright]

See and seen are two that too tend to be like fingernails on a blackboard to me.

Hi,

Et tu, Frank?

Rick C

 

[redhawker]

Don't even get me started on Two, to and too. People are just too lazy to proof read their articles or just don't know the differences.

Simple :How, Who, When Where and Why should be followed but they want to get their point off in one sentence that make sense to them but no one else.

I agree. See and seen are two that too tend to be like fingernails on a blackboard to me.

Same with your, you're and they're, there, their, and steal, steel and its, it's and peace, piece and the list goes on.

 

[Snake45]

And it seems as if the words "sank" and "shrank" have completely disappeared. As has the expression "set foot." :roll:

 

[Colonialgirl]

Saw an On Line Heading about looking into the government SPAYING on somebody; Actually the article was about the Government SPYING on a person.

 

[Fox Mike]

Saw an On Line Heading about looking into the government SPAYING on somebody; Actually the article was about the Government SPYING on a person.

There are some IN government that SPAYING might just be the answer. Would slow the reproduction of their type. But that is another story line.

 

[Snake45]

There are some IN government that SPAYING might just be the answer. Would slow the reproduction of their type. But that is another story line.

There's also a certain segment or segments of our society who seem to be intent on keeping their genes out of the gene pool, and that's fine with me. I wonder where they keep coming from, though--you'd think that at some point that genetic defect would have weeded itself out completely. Maybe we're just not to that point yet. :?

 

[bobski]

its what happens when you let computers into your life....too much.
people get lazy and let the computer catch mistakes.
its the doubing down of america.

id like to see a new gen person have to retype a letterhead on the last stroke of the underwriter.
youd learn real quick not to screw up. secretaries use to be a skilled labor pool at one point.
now everyone (thinks) they are one.

 

[Snake45]

its what happens when you let computers into your life....too much.
people get lazy and let the computer catch mistakes.
its the doubing down of america.

id like to see a new gen person have to retype a letterhead on the last stroke of the underwriter.
youd learn real quick not to screw up. secretaries use to be a skilled labor pool at one point.
now everyone (thinks) they are one.

Yup, I do believe there is some serious "doubing down" going on. :lol: