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stevemb

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Am not bashing Dodge/Chrysler. It just happens to be ad in front of me. Ram Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab Ecodiesel 4x4. With a title that long, you know your gonna get hosed. Lots is made of the MPG which, truly is a better step up than Ford had and marketed the bleep outta. But with a "as tested" price of 55,000 bazillion dollars, you'd have to own it until your grandkids die to make out. I just want a TRUCK. Not a rolling video game. I can read a map, keep the onstar, GPS,etc... Keep the carpeting on the roof, it's a truck ! I want to be able to haul a wet birddog in it. Maybe even a few dead birds. I'm not a yuppie, or a metro-sexual, I do not want to be either of those things. Who will market a REAL truck, a 4x4, no frills, no widgets, gagits, crapzits, BS stuff. Just a TRUCK.
 
RAM 1500
Starting MSRP* $24,810
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Steve, I bought a stripper service ford 1 ton diesel 4x4, you know the all white commercial trucks that companies use as fleet trucks. It has the vinyl floor and seat, FM radio, nothing fancy at all but it is all business. I changed out the black grill with a white one I got off of Ebay just to differentiate it from the fleet trucks.

I think that is probably the closet you can get to what I think you are looking for.


Karl
 
The last one I bought was a new xcab Sierra in 2004. It was about as basic as you can get...well almost. It had the 4.8/285hp V-8 instead of the six,4 spd auto with l/u converter,a/c,am/fm stereo,vinyl mats,cloth seat coverings and base-trim exterior. It was only 16.6K which was a very low price...most of the sixes cost more at the time. They had two at that price;the other had sold when I got there.

Maybe you can order one the way you like but I don't believe they make the wet dog types anymore.
 
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stevemb said:
I'm not a yuppie, or a metro-sexual, I do not want to be either of those things. Who will market a REAL truck, a 4x4, no frills, no widgets, gagits, crapzits, BS stuff. Just a TRUCK.

Scratch the following trucks off in this order: Nissan, Toyota, gmc, Chevrolet, Dodge.


Man up, buy a Ford.
 
Have an FX4 F-150 now. Third Ford 4x4 in a row. It's an '05 with 167K on it. There are still buttons in there that I don't know what they do. I do like the fleet type vehicle idea, will look into it.
 
Steve: Mine is an 08, I bought and installed the Ranch Hand grill guard, the white grill, and the running boards. I paid about $32,000 in 08, a gasser would have been about $6,000 cheaper. It has just about every truck option, i.e. tranny cooler, tow package, camper package etc.. I buried my Kubota 4x4 tractor a couple of months ago and I hooked this up and it pulled it out with know problems. I tow my Kubota and 6' finish mower on a dual axle 18' trailer monthly and if you couldn't see it you would not know you are towing anything!








By the way it has manual windows and door locks also.


Karl
 
737tdi said:
Steve, I bought a stripper service ford 1 ton diesel 4x4, you know the all white commercial trucks that companies use as fleet trucks.

Hi,

Karl, did you have to go to a special fleet dealer to get that one? Out here, if you go to your average neighborhood dealer and ask for that one (or equivalent), you'll probably get looked at like you just got off the saucer from Mars. But we have a local fleet dealer who will sell you just about every kind of "white truck" Ford has available (if you see a "colored" truck on the lot, it's a safe bet it's an employee's personal vehicle!) Used to be you could count on pretty big price differentials, but that seems to be disappearing slowly... even "white trucks" are getting spendy...

And for Steve, we have a number of dealers who specialize in used fleet vehicles. It's more likely you'll find something with a service body on it, but some will have regular pickups now and then, too. Most are reasonably new and in decent enough shape for the low prices. Do you have anything like that in your neighborhood?

Rick C
 
stevemb said:
Am not bashing Dodge/Chrysler. It just happens to be ad in front of me. Ram Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab Ecodiesel 4x4. With a title that long, you know your gonna get hosed. Lots is made of the MPG which, truly is a better step up than Ford had and marketed the bleep outta. But with a "as tested" price of 55,000 bazillion dollars, you'd have to own it until your grandkids die to make out. I just want a TRUCK. Not a rolling video game. I can read a map, keep the onstar, GPS,etc... Keep the carpeting on the roof, it's a truck ! I want to be able to haul a wet birddog in it. Maybe even a few dead birds. I'm not a yuppie, or a metro-sexual, I do not want to be either of those things. Who will market a REAL truck, a 4x4, o frills, no widgets, gagits, crapzits, BS stuff. Just a TRUCK.



I hear you that's why I stopped buying trucks cause they are no longer trucks just cars with a bed.

I also want a truck with no electronic gadgets, rubber mat for a floor so it can be hosed out, manual trans., 4X4, single cab (if I wanted a four door I'd buy a car)

Like back in the 1970's truck line they started out with a plan Jane model (ford custom for example)or you could buy a fancy city dude truck if that's what you wanted you had that option, now all you can buy is a city dude truck, or a white work truck, and who wants a white truck? even the ugly work trucks have to many city dude gadgets, like cup holders and auto trans. :roll:
 
"Karl, did you have to go to a special fleet dealer to get that one? Out here, if you go to your average neighborhood dealer and ask for that one (or equivalent), you'll probably get looked at like you just got off the saucer from Mars."


I bought this truck from my regular local dealer. I kept an eye out (their online inventories) at all of the dealerships around me. Since I live in the country these dealers tend to get a few more service trucks then the big dealerships in the "big city".


"now all you can buy is a city dude truck, or a white work truck, and who wants a white truck? even the ugly work trucks have to many city dude gadgets, like cup holders and auto trans. :roll:"

JMO but I think white cars and trucks are quite attractive, one thing is they don't show dirt as bad as most other colors. My truck does have two cupholders and auto trans. but it has been one heck of a truck. As far as electronics go there is nothing motorized that doesn't include electronics, refrigerators, washing machines, riding lawn mowers and even circular/table saws.

Karl
 
You want a truck without all the gadgets and gizmos? Pretty simple? I've got your example sitting in my driveway, its just a little on the vintage side. Manual windows, manual doors, bench seat, 390 V8 and an automatic to boot. Today it hauled some plywood and bags of cement.

 
My last truck was (is) a stripped down Dodge Ram. The only option I got was the hemi engine. Had vinyl floors and even window cranks. I've added stuff over the years but I always start off with the base model.
 
I like that old Ford. I saw an old C-10 with a 327 3-spd on CL yesterday. I will probably buy a used truck but not sure what label or year.
 
ArmedinAZ said:
You guys must really hate the 2015 Ford F150 with the all ALUMINUM body. Like a beer can.


I think the Aluminum body is great auto makers should have gone to them long ago so I don't hate that, I hate the fact the truck will look like a car inside with to may gadgets and no manual trans. and those crappy four doors cabs.
 
Just don't dent it or have a wreck for the first couple of years. It's going to take a while for body shops to get the tools and know-how to fix it. Ford says within the first year 80% of the population will be within 30 miles of a qualified shop (or something close that, can't find that article right now). Guess who that leaves out? Oh yeah, all of the backwoods belly achers who aren't buying new trucks anyhow. :?

Yeah, jets have been made of aluminum forever and have the infrastructure to fix and maintain it. Relates to Ford trucks how exactly? Big gamble by Ford, hope it works.
 
I kinda of wonder what kind of repairs will be done? With aircraft, if a skin is damaged, dented, scratched you cut out the damage and install a patch over it. That sure would not be very attractive. I am sure more rework can be done on a truck skin, as we are not allowed to reform the skin at all on aircraft due to possible stress cracking under pressurization.

I am guessing with the new aluminum body panels there will be a lot of panel replacements instead of beat, fill and paint. If aluminum is creased it is much more likely to crack then steel.

Karl
 
Bull Barrel said:
Like evrything made by Boeing, Lockheed, and every other aircraft maker?

Hi,

Well, if I knew I could have Karl watching over my truck, and guys with his skill fixing it when required, I might be more comfortable with the idea. But as long as the local body shops are full of Juan and Julio (our version of Cletus and Bubba out here), I'll stick with the opinion I formed long ago about aluminum body panels in automotive use.

Methinks this will be a short lived experiment for Ford...

Rick C
 
I recently bought a 2012 GMC work truck, regular cab. Manual windows and locks, no carpeting. Does have air and cruise. And I did need 4WD. I guess I am not very loyal to any one brand. Had a Dodge prior to this one and a Ford before that. Buy whatever I find at the time.
 
Good God. $55K for a half-ton pickup. And the heavy-duty diesel pickups - Ram, Ford and Chevy alike - are going for up to $70K. Of course, that's because most pickup buyers don't really want a work truck; they want a Cowboy Cadillac.

Last new pickup I looked at was a Ford F-150 Raptor, purely for giggles. They wanted $62,500 for it.
 
David LaPell said:
You want a truck without all the gadgets and gizmos? Pretty simple? I've got your example sitting in my driveway, its just a little on the vintage side. Manual windows, manual doors, bench seat, 390 V8 and an automatic to boot. Today it hauled some plywood and bags of cement.


Niiiiice, David. Given the salty winter roads in NY, how'd you keep the tinworms away from that nice old Ford?
 
RAM 1500
Starting MSRP* $24,810
Do you get wheels and doors or are those options?
I've been looking for a newer used pickup but it's just not happening. Older Son tried to make his 1/2 ton Dodge do the work of a REAL pickup but that went badly and he ended up selling it to a guy who had lower expectations. He finally had to settle for a rebuilt salvage title 01 Chevy that at least has the drivetrain and brakes to handle a load.
 
On a high dollar vehicle. Once you spend the cash to get the base model, the extra gizmos don't add up to that much more money. If you are buying a cheap car, you can easily double the final cost by adding the extras.

You want to find the leftover truck at the end of the model year that nobody bought because it is an ugly color. Ed
 
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