Coaching question

Phoenix too

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My first struggle. We have this young lady - very, very good, but could be better as she has one bad habit I've not been able to put to bed. As soon as she's pulled the trigger he cheek is off the stock to have a look-see, even if she has no scope. She's heard the suggestion, multiple times, count to 3 (or 5), before you pull away. Nothing has worked. My current thought is to have her hold her position, holding a 'virtual' rifle, call 'click' or 'bang' when she pulls the trigger, but to not move while we count, and I then give her a tap.

Thoughts?

Thanks, P2
 
Hi,

My coaching experience was primarily in American trap, with a side of American skeet. In both disciplines, "wood to wood" as we liked to call it, was an important issue. Just like your student, some of mine wanted to "take a look" to see how well they broke the target, which turned into a situation where, sooner or later, the shooter lifts his/her head from the stock BEFORE pulling the trigger, with a miss being the inevitable result. And yes, in line with Buster's duct tape suggestion, there were jokes about using super glue that went around!

Dry firing is often suggested in many of the shooting disciplines, and for the rifle/pistol shooter, is a much easier practice than for the shotgunner. But imagination's a powerful tool if harnessed correctly. In American trap, unless one's shooting doubles, only one round is allowed in the gun at any time. However, in International trap, the shooter is allowed two shots at the same target. Many of those shooters have been trained to break the target with the first shot, then use the second shot to break the largest surviving piece. This forces the shooter to keep "wood to wood" until the second shot's fired.

I used a "mental modification" of this practice with some of my students, having them break their target with the live round, then "follow" the biggest piece and imagine they're going to shoot it as well. They could even say "bang" on that piece if it helped. Many of them adapted to this kind of follow through and their habit of lifting their heads was easier to break.

Not being a rifle/pistol coach, I'm not sure how to suggest it to your student, but some adaptation, where the shooter fires on the target then has to stay down on the gun for an imaginery "second shot" may be something you can work out? If not, just plain ol' dry firing might help, too...

Good luck!

Rick C
 
I like the dry fire approach. One other thing you could emphasize is using both eyes.
Have her pick up the target with the non dominant eye after the shot breaks.

The main thing is to have her thinking rather than moving.
 
Duck tape might help :wink: One wrap around her head should get the message across. I wouldn't want to be there when she takes it off. :shock:
 
Howdy P2

Great job working with the new shooters! Didn't pick up on what discipline you guys are shooting/coaching but sounds as though it is some type of rifle or pistol target shooting.

If it is position small bore, service rifle, or one handed NRA/Bullseye pistol etc. you are coaching, and using a weapon you are comfortable to dry fire, you might try balancing a coin on the front sight (or just in front of it on the slide/barrel). Have her repetitively (until her hand eye coordination becomes reflexive) "concentrate on breaking the shot" without letting the coin fall off.

This drill not only emphasizes follow through it enhances sight picture by drawing emphasis of focus to the front sight, breath control by thinking about not letting her breathing make the coin fall, muscle group conditioning by emphasizing correct position, and trigger control by highlighting the need for a smooth trigger release.

Generally we found most females much easier, overall, to coach than their male counterparts. That was how I met my wife. She tried out for the unit pistol team, She USED to listen to my "words of wisdom" (at least as pertained to marksmanship coaching) before we were married. . .

She was the only Senior Airman that ever caused me to forget which range command was next by simply assuming the prone position! "Shooters, for your slow fire stage of. . . .. . . assume the prone position and with five rounds LOAD. You will be.... Hmmmm, oh yeah. . . . loading your second magazine on your own command, Ready on the right, Ready on the left. .............................. "
 
Thanks all. I've made the duct tape/super glue threats, LOL, SEVERAL times.

I'll give them all a shot; I really like the idea of balancing a coin. Tonight, for reasons I don't know, the program (small bore prone) was cancelled, and I didn't get the message - hung out for 45 minutes and nobody showed. So, hopefully I'll have news next week.

I'm actually doing a Jr program, but it's slow during the Summer, and this young lady is participating in the prone program, tho we're actually doing three-position.

I'll keep you posted, and thank you for your ideas.
 
when i coach....i have them hand me a 50.00 bill. i fold it and place it between the stock and the cheek. if she pulls away and it falls, i keep the 50. next time i ask for a 100.00 bill. ive never had a problem since.

this works for both rifle and shotgun. :wink:
 
bobski said:
when i coach....i have them hand me a 50.00 bill. i fold it and place it between the stock and the cheek. if she pulls away and it falls, i keep the 50. next time i ask for a 100.00 bill. ive never had a problem since.

this works for both rifle and shotgun. :wink:

OHHHHH, I LIKE it!!!
 

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