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erreertt

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Jumping ahead of myself while I'm saving Winchester white box brass I'm purchasing some stuff to start reloading . I will be getting a lee turret style unless I find a single press and dies under 80. I just ordered some 115gr round nose copper platted bullets from extreme bullets for $76 per 1000 with coupon now I'm wondering a good powder that will keep me under 15 c a round or so and starter recipe I'm not looking for a hey I'm new how do I reload ..more of a starting point and I'll adjust measurements if I need too
Load Info:
- Our Copper Plated Bullets can be run at mid-range jacketed velocities or higher end lead velocities. We do not recommend velocities over 1500 FPS (Feet Per Second) and only a light taper crimp.
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.355 diameter
These will be for strictly target and range I like the 27c-30c a round Winchester white box hopefully mimic it somewhat for half price by saving brass
Shooting from an lc9 and m&p shield
 
Also I found lee progressive press for 170 or this for 130 http://www.manventureoutpost.com/products/SmartReloader-VBSR008%252d31-Omega-800-Pro-Kit.html?google=1&gclid=CLqT3q_7ub0CFRFnOgodWFMAWQ
 
Fast burning powders like W231, HP38 and Bullseye (there are others but I have no experience with them) will give you suitable velocity for plated bullets at charge weights that are economical.

Example: starting load for 115gr LRN using W231 is 4.3 grains for 1,079 fps (28,400 CUP)

(Source: http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol)

4.3 grains = over 1600 shots per pound.

However from the sounds of people out there in reloading land, your biggest challenge will be finding any powder to begin with. The powders listed above are highest in demand and chronically out of stock everywhere.
 
Thanks

Well that figures I buy the 1522 find out 22s are impossible ..buy the waffen weeks ak74 find out today that atf banned importation of the 545x39 7n6 and a month before that wolf stopped importing the non surplus ammo ...now I start setting up for reloading and ingredients are rare ..I'm starting to think something is against me owning guns ...oh yeah my state of Illinois and gov
 
DO NOT BUY THAT PRESS!!! You WILL regret it if you go ahead and buy it' it's cheap for a reason. Trust me on that. You'll just end up having to replace it. You'll be far better off waiting an additional month or two and saving the additional money required to purchase quality.

A much better investment is the Lee Classic Cast or Classic Cast Turret:

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/8332

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/7555

You don't have to buy them from Graf; most anyone who sells reloading equipment carries them. Shop around and you might find a sale. A good used RCBS Rockchucker would also be an infinitely better press than anything marketed by Smart Reloader.
 
Get a good press to start with, also quality dies. Your .355" bullets might be ok in your 9mm's, don't be surprised if you gun likes a little bigger bullet. Good luck.

Dick
 
Do you have to take it off to add powder or can that turret have the powder dump ? Thats why I was looking at the lee progressive it had the primer and powder attached to it ..the hand primer tools wouldn't be bad but as far as weighing each charge and funneling in don't sound very fun
 
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=111309533436 that one about 200 would get me lee die set powder dump and primer tool ...not sure if this is good quality die or set though I have a scale so I'm thinking if that's good a tumbler and micrometer I should be complete ... does 9mm need the de burring tools or the trim grinder things? Sorry don't know the names of any of these items
 
HP-38 / W-231 (same powder) is a good powder to start loading 9mm with as it meters well and takes up a good amount of case volume. Start low and work up till you get good function with your gun. Your working load should end up less than the Max. load. :D
 
Hi,

On that Smart Reloader press, I've yet to hear anything good about them except they're cheap. For an inexpensive yet workable outfit, Lee is hard to beat. US made, and available in two flavors: alloy presses (Challenger, regular turret press, Reloader) which are good starters, and steel/"iron" in the Classic Cast series of single stage and turret models, which will hold their own w/ any of the major brands.

As for powder, I've used a lot of the now discontinued Win 540 in the 9mm. Hodgdon's says HS-6 is identical today.

Rick C
 
".. does 9mm need the de burring tools or the trim grinder things? Sorry don't know the names of any of these items"

most likely not
Be sure to get an current version of at least one of the major reloading manuals.

Often you can find recent editions at used book stores.

Starting out with good quality tools that will serve your needs well is far more important than 'getting the cheapest deal' you can find.
 
No offence, but it sound like you need some manuals/texts. Of course the most recommended is The ABCs of Reloading, and Lyman's 49 Edition Reloading Handbook. These will run you through the basics including those "trim grinder things", which for 9mm you'll prolly never need. In these books is a powder section which describes what the powders characteristics are, and what they are best used for, and in the data section they will tell you how much powder to use (start at the recommended starting load!).
 
I know I was trying to do it without a book since I'm only doing one load repeatedly but I think im going to get one now. If my first set of 500 bullets does good I'm ordering 2k more while I can still find them at this price but does anyone know a good price range for primers I seen cci and rem online but I know that's far off of gander mountain or a local shop like ammo I find 15c a rd online in a shop is 23c ... also a good price I should be looking for on a lb of powder I'm OK with anything decent really... unique, w231 , hp38? I don't care to over spend a little at a small shop buy I still need it to be worth reloading I want the hobby buy not if a fed or WWB 9mm is 25c and my reloads are 24c lol
 
Mobuck said:
I've loaded thousands of copper plated 115 and 124 bullets in 9mm using TiteGroup running about 1000fps. About the cheapest way to reload.
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What's a good price on titegroup
 
Last WSP primers I bought were $0.03 each. Cabelas puts them in sale for $29.99 per 1000. LGS has them for $49.99. Good luck on the powder.
 
hopefully im not too dumb for this. i went into my town gunstore i been doing alot of ffl transfers and orders through there and the owner gives me incredible discounts unfortunatley he wasnt there. i went to the reloading section and a worker came up asked if i needed help they had an order chart for alliant i told him i needed some bulleseye or unique he said i have 10 lbs of bulleseye coming in a couple days and i have 10 uniques i just got in 20 minutes ago he cut the box for me i ended up paying $33 i know online i can get for 20 but hazmat fees would up it so i bought he he said they will most likely by gone by tomorrow and he has a hard time bidding on them by the time he can get through checkout it tells him its all gone. he also can order me the cci #500 1000pack for 44 ..(owner may give me a better deal but if not is that too high) its like midsouth has them for 29 and grafs for 30 (28 if you buy 5) and grafs has unique for 18 ...(it has a orangish circle with unique mine is gray black circle but says all the same stuff on it)
 
also if this stuff is insanely impossible to find should i suck it up and buy another unique or wait and get a bullseye lb at this price. if it has a long shelf life (i have ammo boxes and desiccant packs) and it wont go bad i might as well stock up i dont want this hobby to end up like my 22lr or 545x39 ak74 ... this guy did however have 150 rd of 545! i freaked. i didnt buy it because i bought 3000rd when i bought the rifle before this atf ban hit and someone else may need it
 
OK I'll buy another tomorrow on my way out of town to get 2 boxes of cci 500 36 a box ...the guy at my gun store pissed me off probably lost my entire business I went back to check on primers he now wanted 46 a pack 20dollars shipping and 28 hazmat so he could buy a 5k pack and sell me 1k out of it and stock the rest
 
erreertt said:
OK I'll buy another tomorrow on my way out of town to get 2 boxes of cci 500 36 a box ...the guy at my gun store pissed me off probably lost my entire business I went back to check on primers he now wanted 46 a pack 20dollars shipping and 28 hazmat so he could buy a 5k pack and sell me 1k out of it and stock the rest
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Are you serious? If my limited math skills are rught - $46 + $20 + $28 = Lost Customer!
 
OP: as you become familiar with what ~your~ particular needs are 'in the current market conditions' the parallel with our species all throughout Time is being demonstrated:

Take the lowest hanging fruit as you need it. If that isn't enough, you'll have to deal with more difficult access to the branches higher in the tree. Or go run a gazelle to earth.

Whatever modest supplies each of us need have, and our private acquisition of such, has little bearing on what the unnameable masses of our fellow hobbyists choose to do.

The Boy Scouts offered an action model to help us survive. Whatever our want/need may be, and whether those available canisters are exactly what we think we want, there is a practicality more evident of 'do you have ANY or not'.
 
Dude you lost me like 3 sentences in I don't know whether youre with me or against me
 
erreertt said:
Dude you lost me like 3 sentences in I don't know whether youre with me or against me
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He said (transliterated)....

Now that you are reloading at this difficult time for finding stuff you need, you will learn the following:

Buy the supplies you need as you find them, if your needs are more specific then look deeper or pay more. If you don't like those choices, change your approach by buying something unconventional.

Whichever way you choose to supply yourself, don't blame the others doing the same for themselves.

Be prepared.....whether that means pay more for what you want during shortage, buy more than you need when supplies seem unlimited, or have/create alternate solutions as needed.

Hope I got it right but that's how it read to me.
 
Thanks GG, sorry I got a bit carried away. You got the basic idea I was trying to cleverly convey.

It does become harder to find what we think we want when the supply is spotty, the competition is heavy for limited products and the price keeps rising.

Powders I've used for a long time are usually in the "You should have been here yesterday" category. I've had to read a lot about powders I've never heard of before. It would be extra hard if I were just starting as a new reloader.
 
thanks everyone shot my second set of test loads today. i like 4.8 with oal 1.102 +-
http://youtu.be/SuOYjDK4KVY
 
That video was excellent. Congratulations on working up a good load for your gun and congratulations on learning how to reload. You will have many years of enjoyment and save money with that new hobby. :D :D
 
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