Good quality 9mm ammo to buy with reloading in mind.

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I'm a total reloading noob, but I've accumulated a fair bit of my brass so planning on setting up a workbench this winter.
So far I have .30-40 Krag, .308 Win, .45 and 9mm. But I need to order some more 9mm FMJ ammo so I'm wondering what's a good ammo to get that has decently reusable brass.
I've searched a lot but it seems I can't get the right keywords and mostly what I find is people just buying empty brass.
I've read rave reviews of Norma brass, which I have a good bit of ammo, but reading about issues with the 9mm and the flash hole size.

Long winded way to ask what people like, and especially why you like it. Also, the average number of reloads you get per shell.
I'll be using it in a Ruger P89.

Regards,
Tom
 
These days? anything you can get your hands on that is affordable. I'd buy bulk locally to save a little cash. Personally I'd stay away from Armscor ammo. Doesn't run well in any of my 9MM pistols and when sweeping up the brass to throw away I've seen a ton of them damaged. Just seems fragile to me. Folks at the range that reload don't want it either.

You picked a rough time to get into reloading. A lot of components are tough to come by these days.

I stopped reloading for semis a while back....good luck and welcome aboard.
 
Welcome to the forum!
In my experience, Dillon 550 approaching 30k reloads, all handgun, no rifle.
The brass makes no difference. I never look at head stamps, & never measure length.
Clean, reload, shoot & repeat.
Just follow the data in the reloading manual you are using.
I shoot them until they split.
Some folks are a lot pickier than me.
Enjoy the process.

Cheers,
JAYDAWG
 
Welcome to the forum!
In my experience, Dillon 550 approaching 30k reloads, all handgun, no rifle.
The brass makes no difference. I never look at head stamps, & never measure length.
Clean, reload, shoot & repeat.
Just follow the data in the reloading manual you are using.
I shoot them until they split.
Some folks are a lot pickier than me.
Enjoy the process.

Cheers,
JAYDAWG
I agree 100%......... only difference it that I use a single stage RCBS, Jr. press........ I'm VERY OLD and set in my ways....
p.s. just NEVER use, or try to use Steel cases.... as "brass".

J.
 
I agree 100%......... only difference it that I use a single stage RCBS, Jr. press........ I'm VERY OLD and set in my ways....
p.s. just NEVER use, or try to use Steel cases.... as "brass".

J.
Ha! Yeah, that's why I said "brass", I know the difference. lol
I bought my RCBS Rochucker Master kit 20+ years ago when I was taking my kids shooting every other weekend, never got it set up, they grew up and I didn't go as often. So it's still sitting on the shelf.
As an aside, I couldn't remember what it was called and when I went to check found a box of Winchester fired brass. Still has the $16 price sticker on it.

Thanks for the replies everyone.
 
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So the cheapest new 9mm I've found is 1000rd CCI Brass for $250 from RivertownMuntions who I've bought from a few times before.
and 1600 rd of Winchester from MMI Ammo for $379, who I've never dealt with before.
Both have free shipping.
 
When I can buy loaded range ammo for 25 cents a pop, I am not reloading it unless for defensive projectiles. Bullet 10 cents, primer 8 cents, powder 2 cents. It isn't worth my time to pull the handle for 5 cents per round labor.
 
I like CCI, Winchester, Remington, Federal,
Starline, and there are some good
foreign brass I’ve come across lying
around the range.

Also be aware the 45ACP comes in Large Pistol
Primers AND Small Pistol Primers. I like both
so I collect up both when see them.

Whatever you use, inspect it for flaws and damag.

I’m old and have always reloaded with a Single
Stage reloading press. No high speed operation
here.

The Best to you and your Endeavors.
 
rovernut,, welcome to reloading!

If you were near my neck of the woods, I'd let you come to my range & pick up a bunch of free 9mm brass. :D

I have found that by sticking with American brands,, or well known quality brands gives you good brass to use. I cull out a lot of "off brands" and only keep the known ones myself. A few of these I see a lot,, but often have primer pocket issues are "CDC" and S&B."
I keep; Fed/FC, Win,/WW, RP, Starline, CCI, Speer, Norma, Hornady, Top Brass, to name a few.
 
MaxxTech was one of the brands not recommended. I believe at one time they were produced by Igman out of B&H and had issues with off-center flash holes and non-stsndard cases that were not appropriate for published reloading data.
 
When I can buy loaded range ammo for 25 cents a pop, I am not reloading it unless for defensive projectiles. Bullet 10 cents, primer 8 cents, powder 2 cents. It isn't worth my time to pull the handle for 5 cents per round labor.

A definite consideration is the price of components. If you can buy it for less than what you can load it for - or even really close to break even price - you have to decide what your time is worth. If I can buy 9mm range ammo for less than reloading it, that means that I can spend my time (and components) reloading something else. The fact is that 9mm Ball ammo frequently falls into this niche; .223 Ball ammo also does.
 
A definite consideration is the price of components. If you can buy it for less than what you can load it for - or even really close to break even price - you have to decide what your time is worth. If I can buy 9mm range ammo for less than reloading it, that means that I can spend my time (and components) reloading something else. The fact is that 9mm Ball ammo frequently falls into this niche; .223 Ball ammo also does.
Yeah, I agree. Part of it for me is learning the process for 25 cents a round, even if it's the same as buying new, before moving on to something like .30-40 Krag, which is about $3/rd now.

I do appreciate everyone's feedback.
 
I'm a total reloading noob, but I've accumulated a fair bit of my brass so planning on setting up a workbench this winter.
So far I have .30-40 Krag, .308 Win, .45 and 9mm. But I need to order some more 9mm FMJ ammo so I'm wondering what's a good ammo to get that has decently reusable brass.
I've searched a lot but it seems I can't get the right keywords and mostly what I find is people just buying empty brass.
I've read rave reviews of Norma brass, which I have a good bit of ammo, but reading about issues with the 9mm and the flash hole size.

Long winded way to ask what people like, and especially why you like it. Also, the average number of reloads you get per shell.
I'll be using it in a Ruger P89.

Regards,
Tom
At our range we have a lot of very rich old retired guys, they just throw their brass away. I have picked up as many as 500 in one day. I mix every brand that I get for free. Of course this is not without problems as 9mm brass varies in dimensions to a great degree almost too numerous to mention but because its free and almost always once fired I would be a fool not to use it.

As far as bullets, do not waste your money on jacketed bullets. I have used hard cast bullets for decades. If you have only one or two 9mm pistols you can often try oversie bullets if you cast your own as an oversize bullet (contrary to what you might have read by the blow hard gun writers) creates far less leading and superior accuracy. The problem is 9mm chambers also vary wildly. I have so many 9mm handguns I settled on a size .355 which will chamber in all of my 9mm handguns. Yes, I do get a bit of leading but only after I fire at least 100 or more rounds out of one pistol and its cleared out with Hoppe's No. 9 and a few passes with a bronze brush. A small inconvenience considering how cheap it is to buy or make your own lead bullets.

Its also a blow hard gun writer myth that lead bullets in pistols do not shoot as well as jacketed bullets. At our club people win matches with home brewed cast bullet loads and have done so there since 1923.

The best bullet shape when using cast bullets is the conical nose bullet. The original classic was Lyman's 356402 which usually drops them at about 120 or 121 grains. This Lyman bullet was specifically designed to feed through the finicky German Luger so it's been around for a long, long, time.

In the "old days" before Bullseye Powder became almost extinct and was reasonable in price and you could buy primers for 2 cts apiece I usually shot up 400 rounds with every trip to the range. Usually 100 rounds through 4 different pistols. Today since I can no longer even find Bullseye powder (my buddy paid $100 for 1 lb of it) I am using some Red Dot Powder given to me by my brother who no longer shoots trap and although loading info is scarce as hens teeth I managed to work up a load that shoots the antenna off of a fly at 25 yards.

I remember back in the 60's an Old Man once thought I was nuts to even fool with the 9mm as he considered it an "odd caliber" and since corrosive ammo was to be had for little more than a song and a dance he could not understand why I took up bullet casting. I told him " I do not shoot corrosive ammo out of my guns period". I said nothing more as if he did not understand why he never would.

By the way you can cruise the gun shows or go online and buy once fired 9mm brass in bulk. Its not the brass that makes accurate shooting rather its the bullet diameter, the powder and the quality of your handloads. I have used almost every brand of brass made since the 1920's and although its more convenient and gives you less handloading problems to use just one brand of brass its a heck of alot more expensive too and for little or no gain in accuracy. Unless you are going into extreme competition use any brass you can find and then go "knee deep in brass and still shootin fast". I love the smell of gunpowder in the morning.
 
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Not much to add to previous replies, except one observation that primers seems to go into Remington brass quite a bit easier than other brands of brass. I’ve stopped reloading 9mm for now due to cost/benefit reasons.
 
^^^good advice. Blazer is 'good enough' IMHO.
Back in the 'good old days' I was buying a medium sized 'flat rate' USPS priority box full of 9mm brass for $25-30 delivered. Sure, it required sorting but I had lots of desk time with nothing pressing work wise. I haven't emptied the last 4-5 of those boxes yet. (just guessing 12-15K cases total);)
 
My 2 cents. What are you going to do with the ammo? No need to answer.
Since you asked, I would use that Remington brass for hunting, competition or SD since you have it. And not worry about any other brands for shooting paper targets. Your already reloading, I think you examining brass before loading each round. Just toss stuff that's looks iffy.
 
Considering the low prices of 9mm 'blasting ammo', any savings from reloading may be minimal. Calculate cost of components and time to give you an idea of whether it's actually worthwhile to reload at current prices. I'd guess the difference is only pennies per round more for low end 9mm FMJ factory loads vs reloads.
I'm loading with once fired cases, powder, and primers bought a while back and buying the cheapest bullets that will get the job done. Working from memory, a SWAG at my cost per round of 9mm is around 12-15 cents. I'd wager it costs twice that at today's prices.
 
I'm a total reloading noob, but I've accumulated a fair bit of my brass so planning on setting up a workbench this winter.
So far I have .30-40 Krag, .308 Win, .45 and 9mm. But I need to order some more 9mm FMJ ammo so I'm wondering what's a good ammo to get that has decently reusable brass.
I've searched a lot but it seems I can't get the right keywords and mostly what I find is people just buying empty brass.
I've read rave reviews of Norma brass, which I have a good bit of ammo, but reading about issues with the 9mm and the flash hole size.

Long winded way to ask what people like, and especially why you like it. Also, the average number of reloads you get per shell.
I'll be using it in a Ruger P89.

Regards,
Tom
A .30-40 man! One of my favorite cartridges in the Springfield or the Winchester. I am fond of the Krag design. I have one in 6.5 X 55 which I really enjoy. I had a Springfield Carbine years ago.
 
A .30-40 man! One of my favorite cartridges in the Springfield or the Winchester. I am fond of the Krag design. I have one in 6.5 X 55 which I really enjoy. I had a Springfield Carbine years ago.
Yeah. Got it from my dad who got it from his, who probably bought it around the turn of the century when they were sold for $2.98 in the backs of magazines.
Interestingly it's SN falls in the lot of carbines carried by the Rough Riders, but isn't listed there.

Cheers,
Tom
 
I ended up going with Remington
https://www.aeammo.com/products/remington-r27780-047700661308-fw-8-case-5666I paid a bit more for 124 grain so I'm shooting the same grain as my Federal HST JHP.

I'm sure tomorrow I'll get an email for some fantastic sale.
My order came today. Not too bad from IN to GA, especially when ordered later in the day on a Fri and they're closed Mondays.
It's always a relief for my order to actually arrive from a place I've never heard of. lol

Cheers,
Tom
 
I find that Blazer Brass for 9mm is great to reload. Never have the issue with seating primers that I do with Winchester White Box brass. I also find that Blazer is great for shooting. Cheap and reliable. I was surprised to see that a major competition pistol shooter (Ben Stoeger) recommends it for practice and as an emergency back up for matches.

Stay away from Blazer Brass for 45acp, though. It normally uses small pistol primers instead of LPPs, and sorting 45 brass for SPP vs. LPP is almost worse that walking barefoot in a dark room full of Lego pieces.
 
Back in the 'good old days' I was buying a medium sized 'flat rate' USPS priority box full of 9mm brass for $25-30 delivered. Sure, it required sorting but I had lots of desk time with nothing pressing work wise. I haven't emptied the last 4-5 of those boxes yet. (just guessing 12-15K cases total);)
Ha! I bought 3K pieces of 9mm at once and a Lee APP to go with it. Added the four-tube tower and funnel thingy and went to town. The only hiccups were the rare crimped primer or piece of .380 AUTO.
 
I'm a total reloading noob, but I've accumulated a fair bit of my brass so planning on setting up a workbench this winter.
So far I have .30-40 Krag, .308 Win, .45 and 9mm. But I need to order some more 9mm FMJ ammo so I'm wondering what's a good ammo to get that has decently reusable brass.
I've searched a lot but it seems I can't get the right keywords and mostly what I find is people just buying empty brass.
I've read rave reviews of Norma brass, which I have a good bit of ammo, but reading about issues with the 9mm and the flash hole size.

Long winded way to ask what people like, and especially why you like it. Also, the average number of reloads you get per shell.
I'll be using it in a Ruger P89.

Regards,
Tom
I am particular about my .45 ACPs but not so much for 9mm. Remington brass seems to work very smoothly but I have never had any problem with loading any of brand. Blazer Brass seems to be the one that goes on sale around here more than anything else so that is what I generally shoot for factory loads when I have been lazy about loading. It reloads fine. Yes, in 9mm Remington brass is my favorite.
Regarding the number of times I load them,...Unlike with rifle rounds I do not keep track of how many times pistol cartridges have been loaded. I have never had one split a case on me but I do occasionally see some split cases on the ground fired by others. Aside from always policing my own brass, I pick up just about everything but .40. It generally looks once fired. I can shoot .22 and 9mm on my backyard course because I do not mind if I lose the brass from those. .45 Auto is mostly fired at the range where I can, with luck, find all of my brass and maybe a few extras. Brass ratting at the range used to be competitive, but not so much lately, the brass pickings have been good. have been very good lately
 
It cost me $5.90 a box to handload 9mm ammo with cast lead bullets. The brass I get for free as now that our club members are all in there late 70's they simply let the empties lay on the ground and do not handload anymore. I must have picked up 3,000 pieces of 9mm brass this year alone. At my age enough to last me the rest of my life easily. Of course in a few years there will be no more shooting club because no younger shooters are taking up the sport anymore. When the old farts are dead and gone so will be our 100 year old club. Gone with the wind forever.

I must say that I shoot less and less because of the scarcity of components both primers and the outrageous price of powder. It averages at least $40 a pound to $45 a pound in my area and bullseye was bringing up to $100 a pound even before Alliant quit making it.

I just read in the Rifle Magazine that it is true that Alliant has temporarily quit making Bullseye and Unique gunpowder as well as Red Dot gunpowder and other powder companies have quite making some shotgun powders. Every grain of powder being made is now for military contracts overseas as Europe scrambles to arm up with the coming war with Russia and the Ukraine war is sucking up every ton of powder they can get. Not to mention the tons of powder being sucked up for the current Middle East Wars.
 
I own a range,, and a lot of 9mm gets left behind,, even though most of my USPSA shooters also reload. .40 S&W used to be plentiful,, but not as much nowadays. Yet,, it's scarfed up by folks who swage the cases into .44 or .45 jackets. The 9mm cases that I don't load get put aside to swage into .40/10mm jackets.

Yes,, components have risen in prices. Primers in the $50-$100 range for 1000 of them, which is much higher since Vista Outdoors investment Group bought 3 of the 4 primer makers in the USA. Powder running $40-$100 a pound is also higher due to usage elsewhere.

But seeing 9mm ammo coming way down in factory offerings tells me that stuff is being made, And hopefully with some upcoming changes,, things will get better.

Oh,, I see a lot of young people shooting & reloading. Not all gun clubs & ranges suffer from a set membership of just old people. Just look at the shooting games & you will see a lot of younger people. USPSA has been enjoying membership growth annually for the most part. I guess it depends upon the types of shooting as to how much people shoot.
And 9mm is the most common caliber in general over most of the country.

Bet that makes NATO proud.
 

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