Target loads for Speed Six 4"

zackary

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I'm looking for feedback on what 38 spl loads work well in Speed Six, 4", I'm currently using HP-38. 4.0 grains. with a 158 LSWC ( Missouri Bullet Co). I can't seem to get consistent groups. I'm thinking about trying 3.8 grains w/ 158 LRN. Any suggestions/feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank yo for your time and expertise.
 
For lite loads I find Hodgdon`s CLAYS to be the most position insensitive powder available for straight walled revolver ammo.

In a 38 case I load 3.0 grs in 357 4.0 useing the Lee 158 rnfp & seems to work in all of my revolvers !
 
unfortuntately, I will never use any of the Hogdon "Clays" powders since they have intentionally named three of their powders with essentially the same name. Poor product labelling and thought process on their part. What could they possibly been thinking???!?!
Duh!
I mean, come on, three different powders named "Clays".
Poor judgement on their part.
Accurate Arms gets my vote on this one. Distinct, differentiated powder labelling. Try some number 5.
 
zackary said:
I'm looking for feedback on what 38 spl loads work well in Speed Six, 4", I'm currently using HP-38. 4.0 grains. with a 158 LSWC ( Missouri Bullet Co). I can't seem to get consistent groups. I'm thinking about trying 3.8 grains w/ 158 LRN. Any suggestions/feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank yo for your time and expertise.
Nothing wrong with that load. Is something wrong with the gun? Have you tried some factory ammo? Other powders to try in the 38special would be Universal or W-231. You could try some other bullets, lead or jacketed.

BTW, powders that use numbers can get very confusing as well as powders with similar names. I have never had a problem with Hodgdon's Clays, International Clays or Universal Clays. They are in the same shotgun powder family. 8) 8)

...Jimbo
 
BTW, powders that use numbers can get very confusing as well as powders with similar names. I have never had a problem with Hodgdon's Clays, International Clays or Universal Clays. They are in the same shotgun powder family.

the problem is, they don't differentiate with those three "full titles" you mentioned. The powders are all refered to as "clays".
Poor judgement no matter which way you look at it.
Did the US gvmt name these powders?
It would surely seem so..... 8)
 
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Test 3.6, 3.8g
Test with a different bullet.
Vary crimp and test.
Use new sized brass and test.
Switch primers and test.

After I vary charge weights and testing does not indicate my accuracy goal I switch bullets.....
 
That load (4.0 grains HP38, 158 gr. Missouri Bullet) has shot well out of my guns.

Do you have a "baseline" load to compare it to? In other words, is there a factory load, or handload, that you know shoots well in the gun?

If not, then you have more variables than just that particular load. Could be the gun, could be you, could be the load. I'd try a few factory loads first to see if there's anything the gun likes more than others, or at least shoots better than load you just tried.

Reducing the variables, and all that....
 
Thanks to all that responded to my post. Given the feedback that the load I described seem to work well for a number of respondents, I would say the greatest variable is me.. That just means I need to reload and shoot more. That's great because I love my Ruger. I'll master it eventually. Thanks again. Zackary
 
zackary said:
Thanks to all that responded to my post. Given the feedback that the load I described seem to work well for a number of respondents, I would say the greatest variable is me.. That just means I need to reload and shoot more. That's great because I love my Ruger. I'll master it eventually. Thanks again. Zackary

You are using my favorite handgun powder so keep on working with your load and you also might want to check for leading.
 
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