super red hawk forcing cone?

[oldtimer]

I have a new super ruger red hawk 454,45long colt that spits lead on face part of the time and leads the barrol. will ruger cut forcing cone 11% ?

 

[EarlFH]

Sounds more like a timing issue. The cylinder isn't lining up with the barrel, before firing.

EarlFH

 

[oldtimer]

I had a gunsmith check that out, the timing is ok. the forceing coce is not right. Will ruger cut 11%n cone?

 

[TiteGroups]

Why not give ruger a call and send it to them and have them check it out?

 

[98Redline]

If there is something wrong with the forcing cone then Ruger will fix it to factory specs, no more, no less.

Call them up, be kind to the sales rep and you can probably get them to send you a pickup tag to pay shipping back to them.

When your gun gets back to you you can be assured that it will be in fine working order.

 

[Donaldjr1969]

The issue here is the fact that Ruger cuts their forcing cones to 5 degrees compared to 8 degrees on Smith & Wessons. This tends to be a good angle for jacketed rounds but tends to contribute to lead spitting. Every person whom I am aware of that shoots a lot of lead boolits that has had the 11 degree recut performed has reported the lead spitting eliminated.

I seriously doubt Ruger themselves will perform the 11 degree recut. It is like going to a car dealer and telling them you want them to install a supercharger or nitrous oxide kit on your car. What you want to do is first try to find a local smith that will perform the recut. If none are available, then your only option is to have the gun shipped to a place like Alpha Precision. And since it has to go overnight air both ways, that will cost you a lot of cash.

 

[TiteGroups]

I've shot tons of lead in my rugers with no lead spitting problems, none at high velocity though. Trying to picture why changing the angle would effect it. Does increasing the angle cause the opening in the end of the barrel to become larger and maybe allow for better alignment between cylinder and barrel?

 

[Iron Mike Golf]

Reaming the forcing cone (with any angle, including factory angle) will enlarge the mouth of the forcing cone. If the spitting is caused by the outside of the bullet not being entirely inside the inner diameter of the forcing cone, some lead could be shaved off, then spit sideways.

For some revolvers, maybe just the opening of the forcing cone a tad is what eliminates the spitting.

I can see the angle having an effect on accuracy. I'd expect less deformation of the bullet if the alignment of the chamber axis and bore axis is marginal (bullet just inside the edge of the forcing cone).

So if I had spitting, I'd seriously think about an 11 degree reaming, even if the forcing cone is already cut at 11 degrees.

 

[TiteGroups]

Thanks.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

If it is a new or fairly new gun I would call Ruger and explain the problem. They will probably have you send it in for repair. They usually do a super job in the repair department. 8) 8)

...Jimbo

 

[RevolverFanatic]

The issue here is the fact that Ruger cuts their forcing cones to 5 degrees compared to 8 degrees on Smith & Wessons. This tends to be a good angle for jacketed rounds but tends to contribute to lead spitting. Every person whom I am aware of that shoots a lot of lead boolits that has had the 11 degree recut performed has reported the lead spitting eliminated.

I seriously doubt Ruger themselves will perform the 11 degree recut. It is like going to a car dealer and telling them you want them to install a supercharger or nitrous oxide kit on your car. What you want to do is first try to find a local smith that will perform the recut. If none are available, then your only option is to have the gun shipped to a place like Alpha Precision. And since it has to go overnight air both ways, that will cost you a lot of cash.

Very interesting info...thank you for that.

Mike