Primer hole in brass

[crow#2]

I got my starling 45LC brass. I reloaded 30 years ago alot of different calibers. So thing that bugs me. The factory ammo has a much smaller primer pocket hole than the new brass.The starling brass has a hole twice the size of the factory brass I've been shooting. Is this a safety concern? Never saw the hole that the primer shoots fire through that big.

 

[protoolman]

Nope not a concern. Ignore the differences. Starline is Super strong brass compared to some old brands with heavy cannelures etc. also.


Whoa! Just saw you bought Blank Brass! You really need tho slow down and be more careful!

 

[crow#2]

Thanks let me ask ,,on the head of the starling brass it is stamped 45LC blank. Is that ok or did I buy the wrong thing? I wouldn't think so. Here's a pic of the two diff brass side by side

 

[NikA]

Are you 100% sure you didn't buy Starline 5-in-1 blank brass? That brass has a primer flash hole that is too large for safety in regular cartridge loadings. Everything else should be fine.

ETA: Just saw your reply on the headstamps. You bought blank brass, not brass for loading cartridges.

Blank brass has large flash holes so the primers don't back out with extremely light blank loads. They will eject primers with an actual bullet load and tie up the gun.

 

[DeletedMember275]

Thanks let me ask ,,on the head of the starling brass it is stamped 45LC blank. Is that ok or did I buy the wrong thing? I wouldn't think so. Here's a pic of the two diff brass side by side

Yup, you bought the wrong brass. That's why the flash holes are so large. DO NOT load this brass with bullets!

 

[crow#2]

never heard if 5in1 blank

 

[crow#2]

Ok I found more brass.Is the company ,Steinel, lagitimate.
Are you familiar with them.

 

[NikA]

Steinel is fine based on what I have heard from trusted sources.

https://www.starlinebrass.com/5-in-1-blank-brasshttps://www.starlinebrass.com/45-blank-45-colt-blank-brass
Starline has 45 Colt brass "backordered," which for them means "soon." Their prices include shipping and are usually very competitive with secondary sellers.

 

[crow#2]

Thanks

 

[Cholo]

Starline has 45 Colt brass "backordered," which for them means "soon." Their prices include shipping and are usually very competitive with secondary sellers.

It also means no sales tax. The price on their website is what you actually pay to have it dropped at your front door.

 

[crow#2]

Thanks colo

 

[Mobuck]

"It also means no sales tax. "
Not so sure about that. Everything I've ordered lately had MO state/local tax added. In fact local taxes have been based on city taxes from 40 miles away in a different county which are 2% higher than my home county taxes.

 

[Cholo]

Dunno. Maybe the sales tax is included in their price. Their website said X dollar$ for the brass shipped and that's exactly what I paid.

 

[Mobuck]

Not arguing, maybe they have factored in the tax into the price?

 

[Hondo44]

5 in 1 blanks are made for the movies. They were made to shoot in three revolvers (45, 44-40 and 38-40) and two lever action rifles (44-40 and 38-40).

Now that Winchesters and Uberti lever actions are also chambered in 45 Colt they can be called 6 in 1 blanks.

 

[crow#2]

Interesting Hondo44

Now what to do with 100 brass 5n1 blanks.lol

 

[3manfan]

Interesting Hondo44

Now what to do with 100 brass 5n1 blanks.lol

Call them & explain that you ordered the wrong product by mistake & ask if they'll work a return, or an exchange for something else they sell that you'd want.

 

[John in WYO]

I got my starling 45LC brass. I reloaded 30 years ago alot of different calibers. So thing that bugs me. The factory ammo has a much smaller primer pocket hole than the new brass.The starling brass has a hole twice the size of the factory brass I've been shooting. Is this a safety concern? Never saw the hole that the primer shoots fire through that big.

The proper terminology you need to use is flash hole , not primer pocket hole.
Just FYI.

Here is a factory loaded cartridge without one, or a primer seated in the primer pocket.

 

[DeletedMember275]

Call them & explain that you ordered the wrong product by mistake & ask if they'll work a return, or an exchange for something else they sell that you'd want.

Or offer them for sale or trade for something that you need.

 

[crow#2]

I thought about that but the package is open. And I loaded one. I've got it marked with black marker so I remember to cut it up.

 

[NikA]

"It also means no sales tax. "
Not so sure about that. Everything I've ordered lately had MO state/local tax added. In fact local taxes have been based on city taxes from 40 miles away in a different county which are 2% higher than my home county taxes.

They charge sales tax in their home state. Don't seem to do so in other states. Try using your ZIP+4 when ordering, ZIP often results in sales tax rate for the PO location. Been through this with multiple vendors as my PO serves 3 counties as well as the incorporated area it's located in.

 

[Cholo]

Nobody's questioning there being no added sales tax for me, but here's the bottom half of my invoice just for the heck of it. I didn't realize I hadn't thrown it away. I see they've gone up $3 for 500. Oooo... My invoice date is 12/6/23.

Probably someone in the future will see this post and call this the good old days when it comes to brass prices LOL

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Some states NOT ALL are now charging sales tax for out of state purchases.
Texas being one of them

Probably someone in the future will see this post and call this the good old days when it comes to brass prices LOL
No the good old days was when you could buy 1000 for that price

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Interesting Hondo44

Now what to do with 100 brass 5n1 blanks.lol

From looking at your pictures You DO NOT have 5 m-in 1 Blank which are a longer case so the will cycle in a lever rifle. You have 45 Colt Blanks Check the wording on the case.
They would probably be OK with light loads similar to a Cowboy load. Load a couple and see what happens. If you are loading them for your new 1873 they will not lock it up?????????

The 5 in 1 is a general blank case that is designed to feed in lever action rifles. It is the same length as a loaded cartridge in 45 Colt, 44-40, 38-40 and 44 MAG and will chamber in all

Your picture

Yours kinda look like this one

 

[Hondo44]

There’s always someone that use could them. Even if you just gave them to another member in a “Pay it forward” gesture. But you can likely sell them by advertising on this forum.

Do you have a bullet puller? Just unload the one round.

 

[mr surveyor]

wax bullets, primer only, in a revolver


jd

 

[Mobuck]

"Here is a factory loaded cartridge without one, or a primer seated in the primer pocket."
I found one of those in a bag of new factory 6.5 Cr brass last year. Set it on the shelf as a reminder to LOOK at every piece of brass before doing anything else. I have a collection of broken depriming pins for proof of this importance.

For the OP: Back in the days of using 'primer only'(with an enlarged flash hole) indoor puff loads for practice, it was very important to NOT USE the altered cases for regular loads later. The results were often perforated primers or primer extrusion that tied up the revolver.

 

[AZ10X]

Small primer flash hole standard size is .062 and large primer is .080

 

[Uncle Howie]

I thought about that but the package is open. And I loaded one. I've got it marked with black marker so I remember to cut it up.

Do you have a bullet puller? Just unload the one round.

I second Hondo44’s suggestion re: bullet puller.

Pull the bullet, and sell your “Blank” brass here, in the Classifieds.

Good way to get part of your money back, and maybe makes somebody’s day.

 

[AZ10X]

Starline consistenly makes their flash holes larger.