Mormon properties - appearances .....

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wife and I took a quick spin around the neighborhood coming back from lunch,

and once again, as we passed by all the Mormon sites we couldn't help but be impressed by the quality of the care (at least outwardly) that they put into their properties and buildings. The landscaping is impeccable, and buildings are beautifully maintained.....

anyone else lucky enough to have them as neighbors, or some others who help keep market value$ up . . . . . 👍

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Interesting. I don’t know where the Mormon church is in Dallas, but I wonder if they are all like that.
this is the Temple just north of Dallas, impressive as well. I've yet to see one that wasn't....
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Regardless of what one might think about that particular religion, they do take care of stuff it seems . . . . . 👍

this is the "Hill Cumorah" where they held their musical pageant every year, not sure what caused them to stop holding it . . . . .
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Around here? There are more Mormon buildings than 7-11's and McDonald's combined. They ignore water restrictions and if you are not "of the flock" you and your children are shunned. Up until about 10-15 years ago there was a law on the books that no building in Salt Lake City could be taller than the church office building. Sorry. Not a fan.
 
Back in the late '60s maybe? When my daddy was working for the Air Force Base here, his entire group was moved to Utah. They all had the opportunity to go with the group. He hesitated. One of his buddies that went, let him know real quick, if you don't intend to be a Mormon you don't want to come out here.
 
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every religion seems to have it issues, which is why I contained my post simply to the quality of their properties and maintenance. I've meet quite a few of this group and always had cordial conversations and left it at that. They also always seem to be nicely dressed conservatively..... 🤷‍♀️
 
I can't get past the fact that when my grandmother married a soldier who wasn't a member of the church they basically shunned her. After my grandfather was killed in the Meuse-Argonne offensive they refused to help a pregnant wife of a deceased soldier. Only one cousin, who had her own issues with the church, helped.

You can't tell me how great you are when you treat your own people that way.
 
Around here? There are more Mormon buildings than 7-11's and McDonald's combined. They ignore water restrictions and if you are not "of the flock" you and your children are shunned. Up until about 10-15 years ago there was a law on the books that no building in Salt Lake City could be taller than the church office building. Sorry. Not a fan.
Yer talkin ground zero, there. And everybody else everywhere else also has a generationally clannish thing about old blood vs newbies; religion or politics or occupational heritage, newcomers arent trusted until their kids have grown up respectable and not shamed anybody. That was the thing i hated most about moving around the country as a kid; the sainted childeren of the local monied gentry are the worst damned bullys you ever met, staunchly defended as innocent of whatever the new boy said their perverted lil thug did.
 
Does the latter day Saints church still maintain ownership of all property. I know that at one time when joining you signed away all property and it was doled out as needed within the community.

An anecdotal story from my family from my Great Aunt who was the clerk of Mutual Ohio in Champaign County. It seems my Great Great (or Great Great Great) Grandfather Aaron Sceva decided he likes the idea of the Mormon's when they came thru Ohio in the 1800's and went west with them leaving his wife and sons on the family farm. The wife divorced him ( he was no longer around ) and was given the farm in the divorce ( I actually have a copy of the divorce decree ) Aaron went on to become a blacksmith around Ogden married plurally and died there. After his death the church sent people to take the farm claiming he signed it over to them. As Great Aunt Mabel told me the community felt otherwise and just ran them out of town on a rail, possibly tarred and feathered.

I do know that now the main areas you will find the Sceva name is mainly in and around Champaign County Ohio and in the Northwest, Utah, Idaho.
 
Does the latter day Saints church still maintain ownership of all property. I know that at one time when joining you signed away all property and it was doled out as needed within the community.

An anecdotal story from my family from my Great Aunt who was the clerk of Mutual Ohio in Champaign County. It seems my Great Great (or Great Great Great) Grandfather Aaron Sceva decided he likes the idea of the Mormon's when they came thru Ohio in the 1800's and went west with them leaving his wife and sons on the family farm. The wife divorced him ( he was no longer around ) and was given the farm in the divorce ( I actually have a copy of the divorce decree ) Aaron went on to become a blacksmith around Ogden married plurally and died there. After his death the church sent people to take the farm claiming he signed it over to them. As Great Aunt Mabel told me the community felt otherwise and just ran them out of town on a rail, possibly tarred and feathered.

I do know that now the main areas you will find the Sceva name is mainly in and around Champaign County Ohio and in the Northwest, Utah, Idaho.
I dont know where these things come from. Signing over all property? That ended in like 1840, nearly 200 years ago. They tried a conservative commune and it fell apart (something about, you people just arent ready yet to live in this sort of harmony) just like the plymouth colony's original commune; laziness and greed, too self-minded to be constantly thinking of how to help the others. Im sure it would have worked if they had grown up that way, like those communes in california and oregon (well, except for the one that gave their bagwan a rolls-royce for every day of the year). Unless raised in a religion, everybody is a convert, and some find it hard to give up their pre-conversion ways of doing business. The sceva stiry sounds like ol sam brennan who started up a branch in sutter's sacramento and moved it to san francisco; when asked to send to salt lake city all the tithing money he had been religiously collecting, he said you will get it when god himself signs the reciept. Growing up in california, i remember a few gold rush stories. One of the most colourful was a london jew who appointed himself emperor of california and whatever parts of mexico wanted his protection.
 
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Well, old Aaron was Born in 1806 and died in Utah in 1886. It was about 1848 when he joined the Mormon's and went west leaving his Ohio family behind. As far as the story; it is lore told me by my Great Aunt, Aaron Sceva's great Grandchild

https://genealogytrails.com/ohio/champaign/divorces.html

The George Augustus age 11 mentioned in the divorce record was my Great Great Grandfather. George Augustus Sceva
 

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