1gunsnotenough
Hunter
I am picking up a NIB 2004 Gov't Target Friday. It has factory D&T. Does anyone know when they started D&T MKIIs and what was the serial number of last MKII made.
MKII ?
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Ruger Guru
I believe the D&T started to appear on all of them in 2004. The highest number of the MKII's I can find is 226-18143.
we have an early one , in the #219-01900 range and it isn't D&T..
hr2lrn
Single-Sixer
What is a D$T?
hr2lrn
Single-Sixer
martyj":2aog7964 said:
Thanks for the explanation. Remember, Ruger does not make guns in serial number order.
chet15
Hawkeye
Ruger didn't drill and tap their Mark II autos as early as the 215- prefix, so I think that ones been done after-factory.
The first D&T guns that came out was the Camfour MK-512CA
From the reference...
MK512CA (Ruger model 0199) Special Distributor model. Has smooth laminated grips, is drilled and tapped for scope base and comes with a scope base and rings. Known s/n range 225-46986 to 225-57468. A total of 302 produced in 2003 for Camfour (MA).
This model was apparently pretty successful from the D&T standpoint as Ruger decided to offer all guns with adjustable sights as Drilled and Tapped (a great advertising tool!). The earliest of each model known are as follows, again from the reference (note how rare some of these D&T models are!):
Drilled and tapped receiver MK512, MK678, MK678G, MK10, KMK512, KMK678, KMK678G, KMK10, P4B, P512 and KP512. In 2004, all regular production adjustable sight Mark II pistol model variations were drilled and tapped by the factory and shipped with a Weaver style scope base adapter. MK512 S/N 225-57739 is a prototype of this feature (probably an overrun of the Camfour issue described above) and pictured in the 2004 Ruger catalog. For the regular production models, all of which are identified by a circled “B” on the box label, the tapped receiver begins to be seen by at least s/n 225-82223 (although a run of KMK678G in the 225-82023 to 225-82103 s/n range have the circled “B”, the boxes were marked in error as the pistols do not have the drilled and tapped receiver). The estimated quantities produced of each regular production Mark II Target pistol with drilled and tapped receiver are as follows: MK512 = 5,650; MK678 = 850; MK10 = less than 200; MK678G = 500 or less; KMK512 = 2,200; KMK678 = 950; KMK10 = less than 200; KMK678G = 400; P4B = 1,000; P512 = 7,000; KP512 = 600.
The last D&T model to come out was the USST model KMK512GCUS (Ruger model 0168) Special Distributor USA Shooting Team model. Known s/n range USA00001 to USA02599.
And yes, 226-18143 is the highest Mark II pistol I've heard of. It is the highest known 1 of 1000 KMK41K which was Ruger's commemorative and final model to the Mark II series. Being a Standard, it is not drilled and tapped.
Chet15
The first D&T guns that came out was the Camfour MK-512CA
From the reference...
MK512CA (Ruger model 0199) Special Distributor model. Has smooth laminated grips, is drilled and tapped for scope base and comes with a scope base and rings. Known s/n range 225-46986 to 225-57468. A total of 302 produced in 2003 for Camfour (MA).
This model was apparently pretty successful from the D&T standpoint as Ruger decided to offer all guns with adjustable sights as Drilled and Tapped (a great advertising tool!). The earliest of each model known are as follows, again from the reference (note how rare some of these D&T models are!):
Drilled and tapped receiver MK512, MK678, MK678G, MK10, KMK512, KMK678, KMK678G, KMK10, P4B, P512 and KP512. In 2004, all regular production adjustable sight Mark II pistol model variations were drilled and tapped by the factory and shipped with a Weaver style scope base adapter. MK512 S/N 225-57739 is a prototype of this feature (probably an overrun of the Camfour issue described above) and pictured in the 2004 Ruger catalog. For the regular production models, all of which are identified by a circled “B” on the box label, the tapped receiver begins to be seen by at least s/n 225-82223 (although a run of KMK678G in the 225-82023 to 225-82103 s/n range have the circled “B”, the boxes were marked in error as the pistols do not have the drilled and tapped receiver). The estimated quantities produced of each regular production Mark II Target pistol with drilled and tapped receiver are as follows: MK512 = 5,650; MK678 = 850; MK10 = less than 200; MK678G = 500 or less; KMK512 = 2,200; KMK678 = 950; KMK10 = less than 200; KMK678G = 400; P4B = 1,000; P512 = 7,000; KP512 = 600.
The last D&T model to come out was the USST model KMK512GCUS (Ruger model 0168) Special Distributor USA Shooting Team model. Known s/n range USA00001 to USA02599.
And yes, 226-18143 is the highest Mark II pistol I've heard of. It is the highest known 1 of 1000 KMK41K which was Ruger's commemorative and final model to the Mark II series. Being a Standard, it is not drilled and tapped.
Chet15
Jayhawkhuntclub
Buckeye
Yes.martyj":22vm0s3h said:
What about the MK8s and K8s (sp)?
chet15
Hawkeye
martyj":24srr7nc said:
Careful. Ruger didn't D&T their Target autos (Except for the slabside Gov't Competition model) until 2003 as mentioned (the Camfour model). A 215- gun would have been produced anywhere from 1989 to 1991...that's up to a year before Government Competition model ever came out.
When Ruger began D&T'ing their Target autos, they also advertised the fact in their catalogs (2004 I believe) as a selling point...and with Weaver style scope base.
Chet15
chet15
Hawkeye
The first Gov't competition models also had only two tap holes in the receiver instead of three (and came with a two-hole Ruger eagle rollmarked scope base). The ones with two holes are pretty rare.
Chet15
Chet15
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1gunsnotenough
Hunter
Chet
Do you think a 224-225xxx serial numbered Gov't Target in SS could be factory D&T.
Do you think a 224-225xxx serial numbered Gov't Target in SS could be factory D&T.
chet15
Hawkeye
1gunsnotenough":3ar3wcjw said:
If its a stainless slabside then yes, all were D&T.
But from the sn's listed in this tread, 224-225xx would be too early for blue gun for D&T....unless a late #'d receiver finally went through the mfg. process. In that case you would need a letter from the factory verifying the ship date as after at least the Camfour guns.
Chet15
