Look at how it is done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbDZIGcfKG0
and here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_iW1T3yg80
and here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_iW1T3yg80
Let's learn to do aerobatics
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Very good and simple to do.
SAJohn
Hunter
Way back when, as a student pilot, I talked one of my instructors into teaching me the basics of aerobatic flying. What I seriously wanted to learn was how to get out of a spin. (Oddly, spins had been dropped from the standard training a few years before I took up the sport.) The most enjoyable parts were loops and snap rolls.
Technically all of this was illegal as we had no parachutes and were using a regular Cessna 150.
Technically all of this was illegal as we had no parachutes and were using a regular Cessna 150.
SAJohn said:
Brings back a few memories, about 1988-89 ( have to check a logbook) I used to fly my
172 up to Mt Pleasant Mi. and rent a fairly rough 150 aerobat. I'd go out and play for an hour or so,
wasn't too bad to fly....climb for a while do some maneuvers till you ran out of altitude, climb for
a while and start over.
Sometimes if you kept it spinning for 4-5 turns the engine would die ( fuel starve) and the prop would stop.
Usually just get it flying and hit the starter.....well one time the starter bendix stuck, could hear the
starter spin but the bendix was not engaging the flywheel.
Somewhere around 20 attempts and about 200 feet AGL over a corn field the thing fired.
That ended the extended spins in the 150.
Mentioned it to the FBO and they said a few people had mentioned some issues with the starter......grh!!!
Dave
contender
Ruger Guru
Back in the 70's as I was in my pilot training,,, I had a GOOD instructor who taught me about spins & all & especially how to recover. I got pretty good at a few stunts like that. Then,,, he got chewed out by the college,,, as he wasn't supposed to teach us such stuff. I had to quit "practicing" my emergency recoveries.
About 2 weeks later,,, he was playing taxi driver for a few VIP's of the college. At 5500' the aircraft engine blew a cylinder off the engine. He calmly opened his side window (to see, due to a heavily oiled windscreen,) declared his emergency, and set the plane down in a field,,, no injuries, and minimal damage to the plane. In just a few weeks, after they awarded him for such a fine job of handling the emergency,, he got a much better job offer & was gone. Since I'd been signed off on my solo's,,, & about finished with school, I was assigned a new IP.
Now, I did NOT know he had just gotten his IP.
I did NOT know I was his first student.
I did NOT know the boy was VERY religious.
I did know that all newbies got initiated.
So, I was out with him, he was doing a check ride with me,, and when I went to do a T/O & Dep stall I punched it into a spin, on purpose.
Well, scared was a mild word to describe his reaction. He actually uttered a few 4 letter words. (Which I later learned he RARELY ever did.) Once we recovered,,, we went back, landed, and had an intense ground school lesson,,, all the while I played innocent. Two days later when we went back up, he was into a very serious instructor mode, and didn't want me at the controls at all for a long while. Once we were out,, and he'd demonstrated the "correct" methods of recovery from a stall,,, (while I was light on the controls,) he had me do one with him light on the controls. I could feel him shaking. On my 1st stall, it took all of maybe 60-70 ft to recover. The three that followed,,, very similar.
He asked me; "Why couldn't do that good the other day?" I replied; "I could have,,, welcome to the college!"
He didn't say much, & we immediately flew back to the airport, he signed me off on solo again, and NEVER climbed into a plane with me again!
I later learned a lot more about him. (See above.)
But I also learned that he had NEVER been in a spin,,,, and had only learned about them from theory & books. I always said he got pizz poor IP training.
About 2 weeks later,,, he was playing taxi driver for a few VIP's of the college. At 5500' the aircraft engine blew a cylinder off the engine. He calmly opened his side window (to see, due to a heavily oiled windscreen,) declared his emergency, and set the plane down in a field,,, no injuries, and minimal damage to the plane. In just a few weeks, after they awarded him for such a fine job of handling the emergency,, he got a much better job offer & was gone. Since I'd been signed off on my solo's,,, & about finished with school, I was assigned a new IP.
Now, I did NOT know he had just gotten his IP.
I did NOT know I was his first student.
I did NOT know the boy was VERY religious.
I did know that all newbies got initiated.
So, I was out with him, he was doing a check ride with me,, and when I went to do a T/O & Dep stall I punched it into a spin, on purpose.
Well, scared was a mild word to describe his reaction. He actually uttered a few 4 letter words. (Which I later learned he RARELY ever did.) Once we recovered,,, we went back, landed, and had an intense ground school lesson,,, all the while I played innocent. Two days later when we went back up, he was into a very serious instructor mode, and didn't want me at the controls at all for a long while. Once we were out,, and he'd demonstrated the "correct" methods of recovery from a stall,,, (while I was light on the controls,) he had me do one with him light on the controls. I could feel him shaking. On my 1st stall, it took all of maybe 60-70 ft to recover. The three that followed,,, very similar.
He asked me; "Why couldn't do that good the other day?" I replied; "I could have,,, welcome to the college!"
He didn't say much, & we immediately flew back to the airport, he signed me off on solo again, and NEVER climbed into a plane with me again!
I later learned a lot more about him. (See above.)
But I also learned that he had NEVER been in a spin,,,, and had only learned about them from theory & books. I always said he got pizz poor IP training.
OP
It has nothing to do with aerobatics but while flying with my IP we were heading back to the home field, and just North of the Susquehanna River, when he reached over and put the throttle to idle. A that point he said to me: "You just lost your engine, where are you going to do?" I looked around and said to him: "If I can't restart I'm going right to Elkton airport." It was just off my left wing and would have been a snap to reach. I think he was expecting me to say I-95 or some other road.
