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pawncop

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I'm on vacation in the lovely state of Ohio, around the fine city of Cincinnati.

I was advised to try one of the Skyline restaurants and order the chili. I was dutifully warned that it was different.

I was not lied to. It was very different.

Now I'm not saying it was bad but it was not chili. Any meat cooked with cinnamon and chocolate ain't chili. I will not even address the issue of spaghetti. No need to go there.

When I get back home to Texas I can see a big pot of Wick Fowlers (with a few modifications) in my future.

Now I'm not being a hater. Y'all enjoy your little concoction. I'll just stick with my chili from now on.
 
It has been 30 years since I too was suggested to try Skyline when I worked there.
I can still see the blue and yellow signs. It was different in so many "ways"
 
The first time I ordered a bowl of chili after moving to Wisconsin, it came half-full of MACARONI !!!!!!

I not-so-politely asked the waitress what in the $%^#& this stuff was.

Black beans in chili is a relatively major sin, but you can do penance..... but MACARONI !?!?!? I think that calls for a hangin' and an eternity in the flames of Hades.
 
I though only these ingredients are mandatory in a chili: tomato, beans and chili.

When I make chili I always improvise. Chocolate, cinnamon and coffee I do use, in minute amounts naturally. But I agree with previous posters, I would never think of adding macaroni to a chili.
 
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A friend from Chicago also makes her chili with macaroni,and I have to admit that it's not too bad,but not chili.
 
Macaroni in chili is well known in Cincinnati. It's called "Chili Mac". There are many varieties of it there. Some have meat, some have beans or both. Goes great with cornbread muffins. :) Lots of recipes out there.
 
I live in the far opposite corner of Ohio and I agree. That mess shouldn't be called chili, invent another name for it.
 
Chilli ingredients: beans, chilli spice, cayenne pepper to taste,lots of meat, onion, tomatoes. Serve with shredded cheese on top and either corn chips or corn bread on the side. If cornbread provide slices of raw onion. IMO 8)
gramps
 
If you add minute amounts of some ingredients, I think it adds depth to the flavor of the chili. A little powdered, unsweetened chocolate just makes the chili richer, and if you don't tell anyone you added it they never know it's even in there.

I might try cinnamon, too, but in amounts that it's not noticed and only adds a bit of complexity to the cayenne, jalapeño and habañero peppers.
 
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FWIW, for making a chili in my cast iron Dutch oven, I've long used:

* Equal parts of shredded/ground Beef or Venison + Pork , browned
* Equal parts of both red kidney & white beans
* A quart of beef broth/stock
* A can of beer
* A diced onion, browned
* One diced green Bell pepper, browned
* One diced red (or yellow) Bell pepper
* Two diced Jalapeno peppers
* Peeled & halved whole tomatoes
* Chili powder, to taste
* Cumin, to taste
* Two Bay leaves (removed B 4 serving)
* One tsp each of Salt/Pepper/Oregano

After browning the meat & Bell peppers/onion separately, I add all the other ingredients & bring to a boil B 4 either baking @ 350-degrees, or simmering on the stovetop, for 3 hours - stirring every now & then.


NOW, I'm getting hungry................... :mrgreen:


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dougader said:
If you add minute amounts of some ingredients, I think it adds depth to the flavor of the chili. A little powdered, unsweetened chocolate just makes the chili richer, and if you don't tell anyone you added it they never know it's even in there.

I might try cinnamon, too, but in amounts that it's not noticed and only adds a bit of complexity to the cayenne, jalapeño and habañero peppers.

I ain't never heard so many fancy words to describe a bowl of Chile in all my day :D :D Keep the beans and the Cyanine out of the chile. They make Chili Powder for a reason and put the Chili on the Frijoles. :wink: :wink:
I grew up in Ohio and never ate anything like that. Our chili was more of a soup than a true Chile-Con-Carne Spanish for "Meat with Chile" Chile is Spanish not Mexican and is not popular in Mexico. It started in Spain then came to Texas lets keep it Texan. :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
sasu said:
I though only these ingredients are mandatory in a chili: tomato, beans and chili.

When I make chili I always improvise. Chocolate, cinnamon and coffee I do use, in minute amounts naturally. But I agree with previous posters, I would never think of adding macaroni to a chili.

You are mistaken, sir. Beans are completely optional when making chili. I made the mistake of ordering chili once in upstate New York; they mistakenly served me bean soup.
 
Enigma said:
You are mistaken, sir. Beans are completely optional when making chili.

Hi,

Methinks it's always best to check your local laws before making chili. Wyandot Jim has confirmed for me TX law is the same today as it was when I was a kid and still had relatives down there: putting beans in chili there constitutes a hangin' offense!

Other States allow a variety of ingredients, some of them apparently closely linked linked to the region. While cinnamon and chocolate sound very much to me to be Mexican in origin--I have Mexican friends who will make coffee with both, and put chocolate in things many of us would never imagine--I've never had any of their versions of "chili" which contained either of those two ingredients. Que Dios tenga misericordia de tu alma if you forget the beans around that bunch, though!

And now you know why Texas and Mexico went to war... ;)

Rick C
 
mohavesam said:
I thought Yankees called chiles "peppers".
And only a damn Yankee would put beans in chili!
SIR, I take offense to being characterized as a damn Yankee! I was born and raised in Atlanta, Ga., and we'uns put beans in our chilli. (In my best Southern accent) in fact I would request a duel to assuage my honor if it wasn't illegal! :shock: :mrgreen:
gramps
 
gramps said:
mohavesam said:
I thought Yankees called chiles "peppers".
And only a damn Yankee would put beans in chili!
SIR, I take offense to being characterized as a damn Yankee! I was born and raised in Atlanta, Ga., and we'uns put beans in our chilli. (In my best Southern accent) in fact I would request a duel to assuage my honor if it wasn't illegal! :shock: :mrgreen:
gramps


LOOK Gramps, You and I both know the only reason you put beans in the Chile. You had not run over enough pigs to have a little meat so fill it up with BEANS :D :D :D
 
Now IMO (which isn't always agreeable) chili has no beans. There are names used for such other oddities. I.E. 1. Chili beans=chili with beans. 2. Chili Mac=chili with macaroni. So to answer the oft asked question "Does chili have beans"? NO, if it has beans then it is chili beans, two separate entities. I like all three but if I order chili it best not have beans, macaroni or spaghetti. Just visit your local Chilis restaurant and order, guess what no beans. Hope that makes it as clear as mud. :shock:

By the way, Pawncop, I had that nasty stuff when I went to GE's engine school in Cinci. a few years back, my feelings echo yours.


Karl
 
Wyandot Jim said:
dougader said:
If you add minute amounts of some ingredients, I think it adds depth to the flavor of the chili. A little powdered, unsweetened chocolate just makes the chili richer, and if you don't tell anyone you added it they never know it's even in there.

I might try cinnamon, too, but in amounts that it's not noticed and only adds a bit of complexity to the cayenne, jalapeño and habañero peppers.

I ain't never heard so many fancy words to describe a bowl of Chile in all my day :D :D Keep the beans and the Cyanine out of the chile. They make Chili Powder for a reason and put the Chili on the Frijoles. :wink: :wink:
I grew up in Ohio and never ate anything like that. Our chili was more of a soup than a true Chile-Con-Carne Spanish for "Meat with Chile" Chile is Spanish not Mexican and is not popular in Mexico. It started in Spain then came to Texas lets keep it Texan. :D :D :D :D :D :D

I 'spose I could dumb it down for you. It tastes great, and you won't know why because you actually use chili powder from a store, and your sense of taste is kept in your back pocket.
 
gramps said:
mohavesam said:
I thought Yankees called chiles "peppers".
And only a damn Yankee would put beans in chili!
SIR, I take offense to being characterized as a damn Yankee! I was born and raised in Atlanta, Ga., and we'uns put beans in our chilli. (In my best Southern accent) in fact I would request a duel to assuage my honor if it wasn't illegal! :shock: :mrgreen:
gramps

Gramps, I knew you were a good man. :) One day when I'm in a particularly good mood I will send you my recipe. It is award winning!!! (And has beans)
 
One thing for sure.. if they don't have sweet tea.. you in the wrong place! :mrgreen:
 
..........y'all know what ya call chili with no beans?.........................Sloppy Joe's..........
 
pawncop said:
^^^^^^^^^
With all due respect to the above-Nope.


I didn't even no how to comment on that lunacy :roll: .

I am in the process of making pastrami to take to work for my 15th anniversary at Southwest, I think I will use a pork butt instead of beef and still call it pastrami (sarc.). By the way Michael it will go on the smoker tomorrow. Wish you could have some. I'll post some cooking pics. on a new thread.

Karl
 
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