I think it’s just a matter of which one your involved with. It takes a long time for old people to catch up with the new stuff, but we eventually do.
I hate Apple
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I’ve never understood the complaints about the apple system of devices. It’s a matter of learning how to use them, just like you learned how to use android stuff. It can’t be that difficult to learn, because I was able to do it. And I’m a dumbass.
I'm a mixed breed. I was used to Android when I was working and my computers and laptops after retirement has remained the same, I'm really partial to HP stuff. When we decided to get our first smart phones I wanted something small that would fit in my shirt pocked and our carrier had a special where we could get an Iphone free and it was the right size. That's been probably 15 years ago and both my wife and I have stayed with Apple Iphones ever since. I really like their software and Itunes to manage my music library and for buying music. There is no way that we would leave Apple Iphones now.
The reason I have an Apple, or should I say several Apple devices, is one day many years ago, my Dell craped out...again...so I went down the hall to our IT guys who were busily confabbing over one of our agency's laptops that was giving them fits (also Dells, if I remember right) and asked them, "I need a new computer. What should I get?" All 5 of them looked up from their "problem" and said in unison, "Get a Mac." I did, and I've never looked back.
Android. Just started with. Amazing how I can look up something and even the computer has ads for it. Thinking about a flip phone,
All the years my son worked for Microsoft he used a Mac for his personal computer. I went from a Blackberry to an Android phone but got tired of the screen freezing up on me and always concerned about downloading apps that might be malware. Never have had either issue since I switched to an I-Phone a decade or so ago.
I've had iPhones and iPads for years, and love them. Had a Dell Latitude laptop, first one, and it's 15 years old. A couple of years ago, I bought a mini-Mac figuring it would replace the laptop. Easy to use, like iPhones and iPads, but now its frozen and the screen is blank and will not load. Short of me taking it to the Apple store and have them re-boot it, or tell me that's a piece of junk and buy a new one, I went back to Microsoft. Apple’s excel, word, etc. programs took a while to get used to. Now I have a desktop and about 85% done with my book, writing it in Word.
Die-hard iPhone here. Also have an iPad and Mac laptop. I like the security features of the Apple products- as I do most everything on my phone. Not that I have anything to hide- but when the FBI couldn’t get into those NH terrorist’s phones, I decided I would never go back to Android. I’ve had lots of people tell me Android is so much more customizable. I don’t want custom- I want easy and works. And that Apple does.
I do have an old Windows 10 desktop that I use for photography. I’ll use it for that purpose as long as it keeps running.
I do have an old Windows 10 desktop that I use for photography. I’ll use it for that purpose as long as it keeps running.
OP
I know how to use it, I was just aggravated because I couldn't remember the passcode.lol cannot argue with the security of it, that's true enough. I stick with Android mostly because I'm so deep into the Google universe. Who knows, one day that might change.
In the meantime, I'm back into the iPad and I made sure I made a note of my passcode.
The iPhone and iPad have an app for saving passwords, and its also in general settings.
The.Tumbleweed
Blackhawk
I have a scanner app on my android phone, and it works just fine.
I quit dealing with Apple back in the 90s, when I more easily buy parts, and repair PCs much cheaper than any Apple machine, AND without having to buy into the Apple licensing.
I quit dealing Microsoft products a few years later, for pretty much the same reason. Of course it was hard to sell enough product to satisfy Microsoft, especially living/working in a college town, where virtually everyone bought the educational packages for significantly less.
Apple and Microsoft both thinned the herd of computer, and software dealers, leaving only the biggest outfits, which was all but impossible to compete with.
All of the Apple repairs, at that time, required Apple parts, at a cost 10X that of a standard PC.
Thank gawd I'm retired now. If I do any of the software, or hardware, repairs now, I just do it for me and mine.
The.Tumbleweed
Blackhawk
I've found very few advantages Apple has over a PC. The answering your phone from you computer is a fairly common app, available with Apple, Microsoft,and Linux. I've had almost no experience with Sun systems OS, so I can't speak to what they have available.
GHollan
Single-Sixer
Apple hasn't used Intel processors in over 5 years. They are all Apple Silicon now.
Yaworski
Hawkeye
Fortunately, that don't make no never mind to me anymore.
I agree. I’ve used a PC for so long that if I switched over to Apple, it would be possible but just annoying.
But now I have heard the colors on their monitors are more true to what the color is supposed to be. However, I don’t understand the finer details or if it even matters.
I guess it would make a difference to someone getting paid for photography. Say for example a magazine editor.
The.Tumbleweed
Blackhawk
I build my own computers now. At least I can control what products, and performance to expect, without all the usual bloat, and useless programs being installed.
The.Tumbleweed
Blackhawk
There are only so many hardware vendors, and everyone uses them. The quality of the camera used, and the graphics hardware are limiting factors. Software is merely a hardware enabler.
You can have the best of both camera, and graphics hardware, but if the software is wonky, you get a crap output. The same goes for the monitor displays.
Yaworski
Hawkeye
There's software to adjust your monitor, if it really matters. I've never worried about it.
Yaworski
Hawkeye
When B&D first bought DeWalt, a DeWalt battery would work in a B&D drill but a B&D battery wouldn't fit into a DeWalt.
The.Tumbleweed
Blackhawk
Yes, it would be nice if cordless tools used a single standard. The having different batteries and chargers is a royal PITA.
Yaworski
Hawkeye
They want to lock you into using their batteries.
Android can screen mirror.
The.Tumbleweed
Blackhawk
...and their tools. All batteries are expensive, no matter whose tools you use.
If there was a standard they all used, it would force them to make better tools
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Yaworski
Hawkeye
I got my last cordless drill for about $45 on sale, with battery and charger. At the time, spare batteries were $35. The tools are just a way to get you to buy the batteries.
OP
Yep yep yep
And now they are a lot more expensive. Also now some tools don't even come with the battery. You have to get a battery/charger set separately. And they don't last that long either, so in a few years you're buying a new set.
OP
Yep yep yep
And now they are a lot more expensive. Also now some tools don't even come with the battery. You have to get a battery/charger set separately. And they don't last that long either, so in a few years you're buying a new set.
Even though I am an Apple fan for my phone, my computer is a Windows based laptop that I am typing on right this moment. When my last computer died (an all in one Sony) I decided to get a lap top instead of a desktop computer, and have not regretted that decision at all. I considered a Mac, but the cost was twice what this Lenovo cost me and the Lenovo has been problem free other than when I broke the hinge that attaches the screen to the keyboard. I guess I should look into an app that would allow me to answer a phone call on the laptop.
Another reason to stay with Apple for my phone is that it is linked to my Apple watch. Everytime I use that watch I am amazed at the technology that can pack into that tiny space all that it does. I have a box of other watches that have not been touched since I bought this Apple watch a few years back, mostly Casio G-Shock variants, and I doubt they will ever go back on my wrist. I feel like Dick Tracey with his "wrist radio" everytime I take a call on the watch because my Iphone is in another room in the house at that moment. That alone is worth having the Iphone.
Another reason to stay with Apple for my phone is that it is linked to my Apple watch. Everytime I use that watch I am amazed at the technology that can pack into that tiny space all that it does. I have a box of other watches that have not been touched since I bought this Apple watch a few years back, mostly Casio G-Shock variants, and I doubt they will ever go back on my wrist. I feel like Dick Tracey with his "wrist radio" everytime I take a call on the watch because my Iphone is in another room in the house at that moment. That alone is worth having the Iphone.
That's kind of like they do with printers. You can buy a printer for $35, but that locks you into buying their ink cartridges, which is where they really make their money. It's almost cheaper to buy a new printer each time the cartridge runs out of ink, which seems to be every other week or so. HOWEVER, there is an exception. I have an Epson EcoTank printer, and I've probably filled it with ink about four times in the three-plus years I've had it. Each fill costs roughly what a cartridge, that would last about two weeks in a standard printer, would cost, so I've, in effect, only paid about $120 for ink so far. They do get you on the front end though, as the printer costs about $300 - $500 (depending on model) instead of $35. But I figure I'm still way ahead, as buying as many cartridges as I would have used over that time would have probably cost over $2,000 by now.
GHollan
Single-Sixer
I have been building my own windows PCs for decades. When shooting professional sports, I would use a MacBook Pro in the field for on-site editing, captioning and uploading to wire services and use a PC in my home office for archiving and editing stock images. After all these years I don't even notice or think about the differences when moving from one OS to the other.
My current MacBook Pro is an M2 Max with 12‑core CPU, 38‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine, 64GB unified memory and 4TB SSD storage.
I would build a new photo editing PC every three years while shooting professionally as a second job/hobby, but I don't shoot sports anymore and it had been 8 years since my last build. I still shoot a lot (photography in this example) and have started 4K video editing and my PC couldn't handle all the new AI features in Adobe, DxO, and Topaz to name a few. My current workstation build was early this year. It is smoking fast handling video editing and large batch photo file editing with ease.
Based on limited parts availability and the reality that the most powerful processors, memory, and GPUs are driven by gamers, I found it difficult to find in-stock components that didn't include LEDs. It has grown on me and I am now liking the light show.
My current MacBook Pro is an M2 Max with 12‑core CPU, 38‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine, 64GB unified memory and 4TB SSD storage.
I would build a new photo editing PC every three years while shooting professionally as a second job/hobby, but I don't shoot sports anymore and it had been 8 years since my last build. I still shoot a lot (photography in this example) and have started 4K video editing and my PC couldn't handle all the new AI features in Adobe, DxO, and Topaz to name a few. My current workstation build was early this year. It is smoking fast handling video editing and large batch photo file editing with ease.
Based on limited parts availability and the reality that the most powerful processors, memory, and GPUs are driven by gamers, I found it difficult to find in-stock components that didn't include LEDs. It has grown on me and I am now liking the light show.
