get rid of the lock on new model blackhawk

cornbush

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Will the new model frame with lock accept non lock parts to get rid of the lock, or am i looking at a new frame. Been thinking about a Bisley conversion anyway, it's a 4 5/8" convertible in 45 colt / ACP.
 
cornbush said:
Will the new model frame with lock accept non lock parts to get rid of the lock, or am i looking at a new frame?

One can make an "adaptor" that fits in place of the lock mechanism. I simply set a lock equipped gun next to an older, non-lock version and conjured up the needed part.

I'm NOT ABOUT to post images of such a contraption. Up to this point in time I've had a commendable rapoir with SR&Co. :roll:

flatgate
 
Thanks Flatgate, I don't blame you for not wanting to post a pic at all.

I think I'm going to do a Bisley frame conversion anyway, so I'll just get the new guts when I put the new frame on.
 
When using the new steel XR3 gripframe from the NM mid sized revolvers on an older, non-locking revolver, I see no real issue with replacing the lock with the adapter Flatgate describes. The revolver remains operational as designed, but with the steel, smaller XR3 gripframe. Defeating the lock on a new revolver so factory equipped could be construed as a problem by some, mainly those of the lawyerly persuasion. In deference to Flatgate's good standing with SR&Co, I won't post a picture, but if someone would like a look, send me a PM.
Tim
 
princeout said:
When using the new steel XR3 gripframe from the NM mid sized revolvers on an older, non-locking revolver, I see no real issue with replacing the lock with the adapter Flatgate describes. The revolver remains operational as designed, but with the steel, smaller XR3 gripframe. Defeating the lock on a new revolver so factory equipped could be construed as a problem by some, mainly those of the lawyerly persuasion. In deference to Flatgate's good standing with SR&Co, I won't post a picture, but if someone would like a look, send me a PM.
Tim

Whoa! No way do I want to keep that knuckle dusting XR-3 grip frame on a gun shooting .44 mag. or "Ruger Only" .45 Colt cartridges. The whole idea of making the adaptor is so I can fit modified Bisley or standard Super Blackhawk hammers AND large Grip Frames on my "big bore shooters".

flatgate
 
Mine was made to use the NM steel XR3 gripframe on a 327 Single Six conversion. Since the original Single Six was not factory equipped with a lock, the adapter allowed the lock on the newer gripframe to be deleted.

So far I haven't run across any large gripframes with the lock, just the mid-frames. What large frame guns have the lock?

Tim
 
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princeout said:
Mine was made to use the NM steel XR3 gripframe on a 327 Single Six conversion. Since the original Single Six was not factory equipped with a lock, the adapter allowed the lock on the newer gripframe to be deleted.

So far I haven't run across any large gripframes with the lock, just the mid-frames. What large frame guns have the lock?

Tim

The large XR3-RED size in aluminum alloy have the lock; 22s and full size Blackhawks.

However, you will now see those guns offered both ways, with and w/o lock on the Ruger website. A model with an "L" in the cat. # has the lock; no "L", no lock.
 
cornbush said:
Will the new model frame with lock accept non lock parts to get rid of the lock, or am i looking at a new frame. Been thinking about a Bisley conversion anyway, it's a 4 5/8" convertible in 45 colt / ACP.

If you go with a Bisley grip frame this is a non-issue, none were ever offered with a lock.

I see no problem sharing this with you since Ruger offers the same guns with and w/o lock now.

The only lawyer issue you could have is if you bypassed the lock on a gun that originally had one and shot yourself because of it; you wouldn't have a chance at a Ruger lawsuit. And just don't allow anyone to shoot your gun with a bypassed lock that might shoot themselves and sue you over it.

I use the original mainspring that came with the lock because they are a little lighter and just as reliable, after all, Ruger supplied them. Although some want stronger springs, so it's a matter of preference. I milled them as shown out of pieces of my titanium scrap. Overkill I know. Welding 2 or 3 of the non-lock style brackets together works just as well. The hole is for the dis-assembly pin.
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Been away from the puter for a while, thanks for all the replies, I may fit up an adapter bracket.
I'm really thinking about the Bisley frame conversion, and maybe a trip to Turnbull for a case harden and charcoal blue.
 
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