Colonial Pipeline Shutdown - leak

[GunnyGene]

Gas prices are going to spike.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/16/investing/gasoline-prices-shortage-pipeline-leak/

 

[opos]

Man this will bring out the "Greenies" concerning any other pipeline work or construction....

 

[Colonialgirl]

Wonder if BUFFET poked a hole in it so he could haul more petroleum products in his AGING wreck prone tank cars to over turn and pollute the rivers and streams; NOT TO MENTION the DIESEL burning locomotives required to haul these long tank car trains.

 

[gramps]

I tanked up the car last pm at $1.809 in Murfreesboro( ethanol gas). Woodbury was very limited. A couple of stations out since noon. So last night I found a little country store with 100% gas, and I topped off the truck, and four 5 gallon containers. I paid $3.109/gal! Yikes!
gramps

 

[Mike J]

Around here last week I was buying gas for 2.159. This week I paid 2.499. Partly my own fault as I had seen it cheaper further North but I was trying to get away from Atlanta right then & didn't want to stop. It is required that all gas sold in the metro Atlanta area be of the ethanol variety.

I saw posts on the county neighborhood watch facebook page about stations running out. They get some in & run out again because people are panicking. It makes me glad that I filled up the truck today & that the jobsite I am currently working on is only 35 miles from home. That is pretty close to home for me. I should be good until next weekend & could probably stretch things a little longer if necessary.

 

[Captain America]

There goes the media and the commodity speculators again. The US uses 140,430,000,000 gallons of gasoline a year, the 250,000 gallon spill accounts for about a 0.0000017% of what we use every year. If you do the math we have about 200,000,000 drivers in the US, if those drivers spilled just one ounce of gas every year while filling up that amounts to 12,500,000 gallons. This spill amounts to every driver spilling 0.00125 ounces of gas every year.

 

[GunnyGene]

There goes the media and the commodity speculators again. The US uses 140,430,000,000 gallons of gasoline a year, the 250,000 gallon spill accounts for about a 0.0000017% of what we use every year. If you do the math we have about 200,000,000 drivers in the US, if those drivers spilled just one ounce of gas every year while filling up that amounts to 12,500,000 gallons. This spill amounts to every driver spilling 0.00125 ounces of gas every year.

It's not the size of the spill that matters as your math shows. It's the interruption in delivery thru a major pipeline that's the problem. The pipeline will likely be shutdown for at least a week, and very likely longer. That means alternate delivery via truck, etc., which costs more, is riskier, and slower. The bucket is being drained faster than it can be refilled as long as this pipeline is out of commission.

 

[contender]

I saw people lined up at several gas stations yesterday. And in other places, some stations are showing as "Out of gas." Yet, others are just doing a brisk business. And of course prices will go up as alternate delivery methods require a bigger expense to get it to us.

 

[GunnyGene]

I saw people lined up at several gas stations yesterday. And in other places, some stations are showing as "Out of gas." Yet, others are just doing a brisk business. And of course prices will go up as alternate delivery methods require a bigger expense to get it to us.

What this demonstrates to me is how fragile our infrastructure has become. Any interruption in the supply of nearly anything (electric, gas, oil, food, water, transportation, communications, etc.) cascades thru many interdependent systems at unbelievable speed, and with far reaching effects.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

What this demonstrates to me is how fragile our infrastructure has become. Any interruption in the supply of nearly anything (electric, gas, oil, food, water, transportation, communications, etc.) cascades thru many interdependent systems at unbelievable speed, and with far reaching effects.

Absolutely. This is a brief peek into what will happen when/if "the stuff hits the fan" and our usually dependable-but-invisible supply chains suddenly cease to function. It'll be quick and dirty.

:roll:

 

[GunnyGene]

What this demonstrates to me is how fragile our infrastructure has become. Any interruption in the supply of nearly anything (electric, gas, oil, food, water, transportation, communications, etc.) cascades thru many interdependent systems at unbelievable speed, and with far reaching effects.

Absolutely. This is a brief peek into what will happen when/if "the stuff hits the fan" and our usually dependable-but-invisible supply chains suddenly cease to function. It'll be quick and dirty.

:roll:

Good article on the Gasbuddy blog: https://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/A-pipeline-rupture-like-few-others/1715-654347-3847.aspx

 

[Pat-inCO]

Isn't it AMAZING how, when gas is getting back to $2/gal,
we . . . suddenly . . . have a spill/leak?

 

[Bull Barrel]

Funny...gas here dropped to 1.79 yesterday.

 

[powder smoke]

Still about 2 bucks here been holding steady. ps

 

[bigfuzzy]

last sat. morning you could get gas for $1.77 a gal. now on 9-20 it is well over $2.00 a gal.
it doesn't matter, most stations are out of gas

 

[bigfuzzy]

last sat. morning you could get gas for $1.77 a gal. now on 9-20 it is well over $2.00 a gal.
it doesn't matter, most stations are out of gas

 

[Wyandot Jim]

And the location is ???????????????????????

 

[Captain America]

...it doesn't matter, most stations are out of gas

Not a fan of the government getting involved but after Hurricane Sandy all of the stations that were inland and still had power were announcing shortages and raising prices, Chris Christie made a speech about collusion and price gouging and amazingly enough the shortages magically ended and prices went back to pre-storm levels...shortage over.

 

[jimbo1096]

Wonder where the 250,000 gallons went to? I know when I spill a bit in my yard the place dies out.

 

[blume357]

It's not the size of the spill that matters as your math shows. It's the interruption in delivery thru a major pipeline that's the problem. The pipeline will likely be shutdown for at least a week, and very likely longer. That means alternate delivery via truck, etc., which costs more, is riskier, and slower. The bucket is being drained faster than it can be refilled as long as this pipeline is out of commission.

I guess they never heard of duct tape.....

 

[Rick Courtright]

Hi,

Gas here's been just under $3/gal since Labor Day, when it jumped as always. Does that mean we won't see the shortages you guys see where it's only 2/3 as much?

In all seriousness, though, the comment was made about how fragile much of our infrastructure is. That's across the board, folks: gas/oil pipelines, electricity, refining capacity, water, and who knows what else... we can't "conserve" our way out of nothing as they'd have us believe.

Rick C

 

[DGW1949]

If ya got's cash, Shell & Chevron is $1.94 around here. If not, it's $2.01.

DGW