Killer Bee
Advanced Level Novice
sw corner of the evac zone is just on the north side of the 405 from the house we sold last year.
thank goodness we're out of there!
thank goodness we're out of there!
Thousands evacuated around leaking Orange County chemical tank: ‘It fails, or it blows up’
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Mother Goose...I just read about it. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
Typical stupid people. Some one comes and tell you to get out for your own safety, and many refuse. Of course if something bad does happen they will expect emergency workers to save their butts and then sue if they are injured.
I'm not for more laws usually, but we need one that says if you are told it's a mandatory evacuation, and you stay, live, die, whatever it's all on you and you can't sue anyone or expect any sort of help.
I'm not for more laws usually, but we need one that says if you are told it's a mandatory evacuation, and you stay, live, die, whatever it's all on you and you can't sue anyone or expect any sort of help.
I agree, it is a hard call to either evacuate or not for what ever reason but if you stay then you are on your own.
I personally have no problem with that decision.
Back when Helene hit I'm sure if the powers that be could have gotten to our house and seen the condition it was in they would have told us to leave and my wife might would have considered it.... the only problem was we would have had to leave in what ever vehicle they had made it to us in..... The two of us and our two dogs and what ever we could grab.
I personally have no problem with that decision.
Back when Helene hit I'm sure if the powers that be could have gotten to our house and seen the condition it was in they would have told us to leave and my wife might would have considered it.... the only problem was we would have had to leave in what ever vehicle they had made it to us in..... The two of us and our two dogs and what ever we could grab.
badguybuster
Blackhawk
My wife uses that stuff in the OR when doing spine fusions
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Killer Bee
Advanced Level Novice
sw corner of evac area is now south of the 405, one street north of the elementary school my kids went to and a couple streets away from our old house. a lot of our friends affected. :(
bobski
Hunter
how big is the predicted blast zone?
One year it looked like a Cat % Hurricane was going to hit us. The emergency workers went around and when people didn't wan to leave they just asked if they could put their Soc Sec number on their arm is permanent marker so they could easily identify the body. I understand compliance went up quite a bit. Fortunately, it was a small diameter storm, and it turned a bit east at the last moment.
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Killer Bee
Advanced Level Novice
for reference, JFTB Los Alamitos to the west, NWSSB (seal beach weps sta) is directly south of that from 405 to the harbor (where the wildlife refuge is printed on the map) and disneyland is about 5 mies due east. our old house is where the N in GKN is printed.
the sad truth is that if something bad does happen the area they cleared will have been wrong... I bet there are a goodly number of California lawyers just waiting and wishing for something to happen.
What is in the tank?
bobski
Hunter
that the evac area. im wondering what the crator area will be.
When I was a lot younger, I worked as a cook at a Denny's inside the evac zone. Glad I'm not cooking (or living in California ;^) anymore...
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KillerBee, depending on when you lived there you were my little sisters neighbor.
And as to what's in the tank, suspiciously, no one is saying. I do know that aerospace places sometimes use Hexavalent Chrome. If that's what's in the tank, and it goes boom the resulting cloud could contaminate a pretty large area. In that case, no one is going home anytime soon.
And as to what's in the tank, suspiciously, no one is saying. I do know that aerospace places sometimes use Hexavalent Chrome. If that's what's in the tank, and it goes boom the resulting cloud could contaminate a pretty large area. In that case, no one is going home anytime soon.
GunnyGene
Hawkeye
Methyl methacrylate (MMA) — a volatile and flammable plastic epoxy, according to this report on Fox.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/newsom-d...ng-chemical-tank-nears-catastrophic-explosion
ABC7 news video of what's happening.
https://abc7.com/live-updates/garde...ty-will-spill-explode-officials-say/19152918/
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My summer job out of high school back in '75 was working maintenance at the fertilizer plant my father was a machinist at. Maintenance meant cutting grass and cleaning up 'stuff', and I mean some nasty stuff in places... three of the items they had at this plant were these large 2 million gallon tanks... that held... liquid Hydrogen, liquid Ammonia and liquid Nitrogen.... they also had a 10 acre tent that the bulk Ammonium Nitrate was piled under.... the estimate was if that went off it would make a crater in the ground 3 miles across... this plant is about 7 miles south of Augusta Georgia and after I left they doubled the size and capacity of it.
there are places like this all around.... we are not safe.... of course we never were and really never will be... I live down wind of a Nuclear Power plant that they built right beside an earth quake fault.
there are places like this all around.... we are not safe.... of course we never were and really never will be... I live down wind of a Nuclear Power plant that they built right beside an earth quake fault.
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Yeah, there are three Minuteman bases in the US, with missile silos scattered all over the countryside, and I basically live in the middle of one of them. You can either view it as very, very safe, OR (if the SHTF) the center of a potential nuclear firestorm such as the world has never seen.
I love it - best place I've ever lived!
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nvbirdman
Blackhawk
But that would be forcing them to take personal responsibility.
Got diesel?
Do you know why the Minuteman and other strategic sites/bases are where they are? If the Russians were going to attack, they would nuke our nuke sites first so we couldn't retaliate. Back then (Cold War era), Russia did not have the farm land and farm productivity like the USA had/has (due to the number of Russians it took to produce what our farmers did - like 200 to 1 - and most of what they produced went to feeding those on the farms). If they nuke those places in the US, they would lose all the farmland that they needed/wanted for a long time. Remember, our strategic bases are in the breadbasket of America. You might win the war but you lose what you need to survive.
Also remember, a lot (most maybe) of the chemical plants, etc, WERE set up in basically very rural, some might even say desolate areas in case of a mishap. Well, technical progression, over the years, made a lot of those areas habitable and people wanted out of the cities for any number of reason so they moved there. Many were advised not to go there but they didn't listen/didn't care (a bunch of "It won't happen to me/us").
OK, Tin Foil Hatters: is the Orange County situation contrived - to chase away voters?
Explosion now unlikely?
https://abc7.com/live-updates/garde...ty-will-spill-explode-officials-say/19152918/
Hope so.
https://abc7.com/live-updates/garde...ty-will-spill-explode-officials-say/19152918/
Hope so.
