Are 'goat guns" real?

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Well, here's a real one:
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"does it shoot?" I hope not when I'm close.
From the 80% Arms 2A newsletter: "Take a look at this crazy "DIY" ghost gun made by a criminal, which was confiscated by a local police department in Iowa. "
Convicted felon who couldn't legally posses a firearm.
When are politicians going to understand that criminals don't obey laws??????????????????????
 
I'm loving that flip up breech block. The styling clues the builder was going for when he attached it with a Square nut is just too much! Guess he was going for a 1940's Internation Harvester Corn binder esthetic?
Maybe he'd make me a cased dueling set with an included screwdriver and monkey wrench?
 
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I particularly like the grip medallion.

You have to admit the considerable stupidity exhibited in the manufacture of that contraption, which is probably equally dangerous to its user and intended victim.
 
It would have been substantially safer and easier to purchase a military surplus flare gun and an appropriate cartridge adapter ("sub-caliber device") - no FFL required for either, IIRC. Of course, putting the two parts together, or even having them in the same location, would probably be illegal for a convicted felon. And he probably didn't have the money, anyway!
 
About 1975 no one of us in Ky. knew much about what it took to kill a Whitetail, my county didn't eve have a deer season at the time. Even hunting another county resulted with sitting in a stand for 2 or 3 seasons & never seeing a deer. The beginning.
Couple that with how a 44 mag handgun might affect a deer. No handgun season for more years didn't curb the curiosity as none of us knew anything about that as well. I had the scarce model 29 Smith, a co-worker raised meat goats, & I ask how much for one. We agreed on $5 for me to kill, if I could, & he got the meat.

The 245 grain cast LSWC over 21 grains 2400, yes, I'd read Keith, was the load. Bullet in, bullet out, dead goat & I felt like I'd wasted a hard earned $5. No drama, no nothing. No bullet recovered to peruse or tell stories. Just a dead goat & I could have hit my coworkers singlewide due to overpenetration.

But it all worked out, I got some lessons that day, & I have owned a "goat" gun.:giggle:
 
'Is that "ghost" or "goat"?'
It was supposed to be a play off ghost but in the original, I forgot the s on the end of goat. One of our less than 100% TV commentators mis-pronounced the term into goats' guns and I fumble fingered the intended humor. Oh well, there's many reasons I'm not a stage comedian.
 
Saw this abomination on another webpage; somebody there called it a "Smith and Methin'."

I'm inclined to think the builder was on some kind of drug, myself. Especially if he even considered trying to shoot it.
 
The Zip Gun used in Death Wish III.
It looked like it would really work, as a shotgun.

I would NOT personally recommend building one (for obvious safety reasons), but some US military technical manuals contain instructions for assembling improvised weapons such as that shotgun. Reprints of a lot of those military manuals have been readily available to the public for decades.
 
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