Anyone knows about Redhawk 45LC future availability?

[Knecht]

I've recently been looking for a modern style, DA revolver in 45LC. At first I didn't even know the Redhawk ever came in that caliber, never actually saw it in my country, always just 44Mag and recently some in .357Mag. Since someone at a different forum pointed out the Redhawk in such caliber existed, I've started looking for it to make a custom import order and so far I'm not happy. The 5027 model seems to be discontinued and the 5050 model is marked as currently unavailable as well. Does anyone know if Ruger is planning to bring any of these models back on the market?
Thanks!

 

[Stantheman1986]

With Ruger you just never know......we might never see them again or they could be cranking out a batch right now

 

[hittman]

There may be more availability on the USED market.
Now, how that relates to where YOU live, I don’t know, sorry.

 

[contender]

Seeing where you are from,, it may be HARD to get one.

During the covid crap,, Ruger had to suspend a lot of production due to the lack of healthy workers. At one point,, I believe they were down 65% of their work force. So MANY models that are slower sellers, as well as many that cost more to build were put in the "currently unavailable" category.
But once they get caught up with other demands, as well as having trained workers to build them,, I'm sure they will eventually produce more of them. But it may be a year or three away. That's one thing we can't gauge.

 

[Knecht]

There may be more availability on the USED market.
Now, how that relates to where YOU live, I don’t know, sorry.

I have some ads out for a used one but like I said, I don't recall seeing one in .45 here. But I have to admit, till now I didn't pay much attention, either.

Seeing where you are from,, it may be HARD to get one.

During the covid crap,, Ruger had to suspend a lot of production due to the lack of healthy workers. At one point,, I believe they were down 65% of their work force. So MANY models that are slower sellers, as well as many that cost more to build were put in the "currently unavailable" category.
But once they get caught up with other demands, as well as having trained workers to build them,, I'm sure they will eventually produce more of them. But it may be a year or three away. That's one thing we can't gauge.

Once it's available at Ruger, it shouldn't be that hard to get one here through the importers, even though it may take a while to arrive, be proofed (and if the model is new here, it may have to be categorized etc.), but that's all doable, just takes some time. But if it's not being made at all, there's a problem.

 

[arfmel]

Lipsey’s Distributing (Lipseys.com) shows them as available:

 

[Knecht]

Lipsey’s Distributing (Lipseys.com) shows them as available:View attachment 27907

Thanks, will see if any local importer is able to buy from them.

 

[Ray Newman]

Re the Lipsey's catalogue has the fine print notice:

"This item is in the Lipsey's Catalog, but that does not mean that it is currently available. Please contact a Lipsey's Dealer to order."

 

[Stantheman1986]

I had also wanted a .44 Magnum Birdshead Vaquero but they became unobtanium

 

[Hankus]

I have been keeping tabs on the used market for 5032s and 5050s (convertible Redhawk .45s) for several months now and the 5027s pop up in my searches sometimes. They are out there in the US at least but they’re pricey right now.

 

[Stantheman1986]

I have been keeping tabs on the used market for 5032s and 5050s (convertible Redhawk .45s) for several months now and the 5027s pop up in my searches sometimes. They are out there in the US at least but they’re pricey right now.

People were disappointed with the accuracy of .45 ACP through these and I feel like they were "soft" discontinued by Ruger

I remember on the other Ruger forum in about 2008 or so when we were discussing these with Bill Jr, and he said they did not want to do them in just .45 ACP because they were marketed as .45 LC with the ability to shoot .45 ACP as a cheaper plinking round . He even said people can just purchase a S&W 625 if they want a dedicated .45 ACP revolver . He understood other gunmakers already filled certain niches

I'm happy with mine and I'll never sell it but I plan to purchase a pre-lock 625 . In fact I just put a S&W 986 9mm on layaway and should have went with a 625 or an older 1917 but it's fine. I have always loved "auto caliber " revolvers and I was excited to get my Redhawk when they came out, and I just shoot it at 15 yards

 

[Onty]

Thanks, will see if any local importer is able to buy from them.

Could be hard to find importer, because noted 45 Colt Redhawk is Lipsey's Exclusive. I was looking to import 480 Bisley in Croatia through local Ruger dealer. Well, first, Lipsey's doesn't export, as far as I understood. Second. since that 45 Colt Redhawk is Lipsey's Exclusive, Ruger cannot sell it. The only way is if your local Ruger dealer contacts Lipsey's, asking them permission for Ruger to sell one, and after they agree, it could be done. Would they do that just for one revolver, I am not sure. On top of that, you will pay EU price.

I would say better way could be to find a dealer in USA, contact them how payment could be arranged, purchase a revolver and arrange shipping to one of exporters. They will do all paperwork and ship revolver to you. I guess, you have to go through your Custom first, and after that next steps. BTW, if you are purchasing 45 Colt revolver, I would suggest get some brass and ship it in the same package. I prefer Starline brass.

As for exporters, check here https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=fireams+exporter+from+usa , I contacted this one https://simpsonltd.com/firearm-exports/ , seems to me reasonable. Bit pricey for a single revolver, but much more cost effective if you are purchasing 2 or 3 firearms, especially if you are looking for a nice lever action rifle. I couldn't believe how much they charge in EU for 30-30 or 45-70.

 

[Knecht]

Could be hard to find importer, because noted 45 Colt Redhawk is Lipsey's Exclusive. I was looking to import 480 Bisley in Croatia through local Ruger dealer. Well, first, Lipsey's doesn't export, as far as I understood. Second. since that 45 Colt Redhawk is Lipsey's Exclusive, Ruger cannot sell it. The only way is if your local Ruger dealer contacts Lipsey's, asking them permission for Ruger to sell one, and after they agree, it could be done. Would they do that just for one revolver, I am not sure. On top of that, you will pay EU price.

I would say better way could be to find a dealer in USA, contact them how payment could be arranged, purchase a revolver and arrange shipping to one of exporters. They will do all paperwork and ship revolver to you.

Well, I got some replies from local sellers this week and the results are:
- Redhawk in .45 is currently sold out, but should be in stock again by the end of 23/early 24. They will get it for me on custom order, just want 10% paid ahead. That's acceptable.
- I also asked about the Super Redhawk in .454 and the short 5" barrel version (AKA the Toklat) which is Talo Distributors exclusive. One local seller is able to import it as well, but it's currently out of stock too and there's no intel on possible restock date.
EDIT: also, I've heard some more from the guy who could import the Toklat model and the price with all the additional cost is unacceptable for me. So I guess it will be the .45 Redhawk.

 

[Hvymax]

I don't see it on the Ruger site. Just 45acp. The Super Redhawk in 454 will take 45 lc

 

[Knecht]

I don't see it on the Ruger site. Just 45acp. The Super Redhawk in 454 will take 45 lc

The one in .45ACP is chambered for .45 Colt, those ACPs need a moonclip. If you open the specifications of the model, you'll see it. I didn't know about it either, till it was pointed out to me recently.

 

[Onty]

Well, I got some replies from local sellers this week and the results are:
- Redhawk in .45 is currently sold out, but should be in stock again by the end of 23/early 24. They will get it for me on custom order, just want 10% paid ahead. That's acceptable.

Glad to hear excellent news!!! You obviously have very good dealer. I wish there is one like yours in my area.

Make sure you purchase enough clips for 45 ACP,

 

[hittman]

For you guys across the pond, are the moon clips for these readily available there? Or somehow considered a firearm part and regulated in some way?

Also, I wonder if N Frame S&W moon clips work with the Rugers.

 

[NikA]

Also, I wonder if N Frame S&W moon clips work with the Rugers.

N frame clips do not work.

 

[Knecht]

For you guys across the pond, are the moon clips for these readily available there? Or somehow considered a firearm part and regulated in some way?

Also, I wonder if N Frame S&W moon clips work with the Rugers.

I would be surprised if they were readily available, although they're completely unaffected by CZ gun law, shouldn't be a problem to have some shipped.

 

[Knecht]

Glad to hear excellent news!!! You obviously have very good dealer. I wish there is one like yours in my area.

Make sure you purchase enough clips for 45 ACP,

Well I guess you could buy guns here from our dealers and then export them to Croatia (if that's where you are). But I'm not sure about your laws in this. I can legally do that as a private citizen, with the right paperwork (I need approval of my country that I can import it, approval of the current owner's country that I can export it, plus approval of every country I would travel through that I can transit it through their territory). Not really worth the trouble, unless I can find some super good deal or something that's super unobtainable in my country.

As for the clips, I'll likely get some, but I actually want the gun mainly to shoot the .45 Colt. I don't even own other .45ACP gun currently, so I may not be interested in reloading yet another cartridge. Will see about it, if I really get that Redhawk.

 

[Onty]

As for your dealer, how much they will charge total over price in USA, to import revolver in Czech Republic? And how much it will cost to export gun to Croatia? I know, I am asking more than normal, but just in case you have a hint.

Also, can they import used guns? I am after 41 Magnum Bisley, blue, 7.5", and Security Six, stainless 6". I found some second ones on egun.de, but they have either rough barrels (from the factory) https://www.rugerforum.net/threads/...-revolvers-be-firelapped.409277/#post-4844149 , or sellers do not want to provide picture of the inside of barrel.

If possible, could you please send me PM with dealer/importer website. Thanks!

 

[dickydalton]

I paid dearly for mine and had to tune it a bit. It's as accurate with the ACPs as I can shoot. This was new and it has Hogue's on it now.

 

[Stantheman1986]

If you're looking for Match Grade accuracy with .45 ACP, you'll be disappointed with the .45 ACP/LC Redhawk if you're buying it as an ACP shooter like I did

I love mine and I'm keeping it, but I shoot it at 15 yards or less

For the $$ these get on the secondary market you'll probably do better to find a pre-lock S&W 625 or a 1917 / 25

My friend has a JM 625 and it shoots ragged holes at 25, my Redhawk struggles to keep them inside a pie plate at 25. 50 yards is purely "minute of B27 silhouette " . The LC chamber is not optimal for the ACP

 

[Onty]

I never liked idea of having short round like 45 ACP, fired in long chamber for 45 Colt. Bullet freebore jump is almost .400". That cannot help accuracy. Of course, here and there will be revolver that will do OK, but wast majority of the revolvers will shoot like you described.

If one wants to have same revolver shooting 45 Colt and 45 ACP, Ruger has a number of so called "Convertible" models with dual cylinders:

See more here https://www.ruger.com/products/newModelBlackhawkConvertible/models.html

NOTE: On some pictures you will notice smaller bores in cylinder, most likely 357 magnum or 9 mm, not 45 Colt or 45 ACP. But, that was the way website was created.

Other manufacturers, like Pietta and Uberti, also have convertible models in 45.

 

[Knecht]

If you're looking for Match Grade accuracy with .45 ACP, you'll be disappointed with the .45 ACP/LC Redhawk if you're buying it as an ACP shooter like I did

I've mentioned that before, I don't care for the ACPs much, I don't shoot that caliber anyway. I want it primarily for the 45 Colt, which I do shoot and reload. It's one of the few DA revolvers in that caliber I can get here.

 

[Knecht]

I never liked idea of having short round like 45 ACP, fired in long chamber for 45 Colt. Bullet freebore jump is almost .400". That cannot help accuracy. Of course, here and there will be revolver that will do OK, but wast majority of the revolvers will shoot like you described.

If one wants to have same revolver shooting 45 Colt and 45 ACP, Ruger has a number of so called "Convertible" models with dual cylinders:

See more here https://www.ruger.com/products/newModelBlackhawkConvertible/models.html

Yes, I know about those. I've said it before, I'm not looking for a SA revolver. I know the 45 Colt is much more "home" in those, but it's really not what I'm looking for. Not that I wouldn't like getting one, but as I'm looking for several things in a revolver, I can either end up buying several revolvers that would meet the individual demands, or find one that would be a compromise. A Redhawk in .45 Colt is the best compromise I can find. Not cheap, but will cost me less than buying three separate revolvers that would be each good in one of those things.

 

[Onty]

If you want "boomer" 45 Colt in DA revolver, Redhawk is the only choice at this moment as a new gun. But, there is also used Colt Anaconda in 45 Colt, although, they are not very common. Those revolvers could take "Ruger level" loads.

However, if your intention is to stick to SAAMI level loads, as others pointed, there are S&W M25 and M625 ( https://durysguns.com/product/smith-wesson-625-3-45-colt/ ). Can't go wrong with these. I would just make sure that revolver is one of their later models, with so called "ENDURANCE PACKAGE". These ones were made using CNC equipment, but also, some critical items were redesigned and/or made of harder, stronger steel. Yeah, some will say that older S&W guns were better fitted and smoother. And in most cases they are right. However, when talking about durability, those older revolvers are behind newer ones. Here is one M25 with slim barrel I would like to have:

 

[gnappi]

I have an early BH with both cylinders and never shot ACP's through it since I always had Colt brass. If I didn't have Colt brass the ACP would be a decent option.

 

[Knecht]

If you want "boomer" 45 Colt in DA revolver, Redhawk is the only choice at this moment as a new gun. But, there is also used Colt Anaconda in 45 Colt, although, they are not very common. Those revolvers could take "Ruger level" loads.

However, if your intention is to stick to SAAMI level loads, as others pointed, there are S&W M25 and M625 ( https://durysguns.com/product/smith-wesson-625-3-45-colt/ ). Can't go wrong with these. I would just make sure that revolver is one of their later models, with so called "ENDURANCE PACKAGE". These ones were made using CNC equipment, but also, some critical items were redesigned and/or made of harder, stronger steel.

SWs in .45 Colt are very hard to find in my country and even a used one will cost more than a new Redhawk. The price of a Redhawk is very high for me already and I'm not paying even more for a used handgun. Not for any handgun, I guess. The Anaconda is the same story, just even harder to find.

 

[Thel]

Another option albeit somewhat rare is a Dan Wesson revolver. Currently, there is one listed on Gun Broker. The interchangeable barrels may or may not be of use to you. Prices are high on these, though.