.303 British loads

winchesterbob

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Hi All,

Just acquired a No. 1 in the above...anyone care to share some loads with 174-180 bullets?

Thanks,

bob
 
The 303 Br and the 308 share near identical case capacities, 57 and 56 gr of water respectively.

So, in a strong modern action like the No 1 you can use 308 data with appropriate bullet weights.

Pete
 
is that a no.1 mk III action? if so i do not think they are as strong as a no.4 mk I action. personally i would not use 308 data unless you reduce your loads.
check out the hodgdon sight.
i have some of their data that list a 180 grain bullet - varget powder - 37 gr. minimum load(2300fps) and a max load of 41 grains(2450fps)

hope this helps some
 
Hi,

Personally, regardless of similar case capacity, I would never use .308 data in a .303. Coupla reasons:

Like w/ running "hot" .45 Colt ammo thru guns we "think" or "assume" will take it, the gun mfrs have never said it's ok. It's quite possible someone, like Ruger, does build in a big enough safety margin to get away w/ it just fine, as w/ older model Blackhawk family revolvers. However, they're perfectly within their rights not to, as we see w/ the New Vaquero. Who's to say they might not save a buck along the way and downgrade the safety margin in a No. 1 in .303 British as well? We don't know.

Then, if one IS gonna load "hotter" ammo for a given caliber, it's MANDATORY they never, ever, let that ammo get out where it's possibly gonna be used in a gun not designed for it! For example, what if you've been shooting ".308 grade" ammo in your No. 1, then "get the bug" to acquire an old Enfield, and "accidentally" grab the wrong ammo? That ol' Enfield's gonna be far less happy w/ it than the No. 1.

Now, perhaps those concerns are a bit excessive, but I've learned that to err on the side of caution is far less dangerous in the reloading game than walking on the edge. Perhaps that's just me...

As such, I'm gonna join those who say "read the book(s)." There are plenty of recipes for the .303 out there. Several of the IMR powders have produced good ammo for me in the past w/ the bullet weights suggested. (See Hodgdon's site for current recommendations.) H4831 and Reloder 15 have also worked well (see Hodgdon's again, and Alliant.)

There's really no need to improvise w/ this caliber...

Rick C
 
I strongly suggest reading the load data section at http://www.303british.com

A lot of very useful information there.
 
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I believe we're talking about a RUGER No 1 here. I mean it's a reasonable conclusion since a guy says he just acquired a No 1 and we're on the RugerForum.

Pete
 
Enigma said:
I strongly suggest reading the load data section at http://www.303british.com

A lot of very useful information there.
That used to be a great site with hundreds of loads right down to cast bullets and squibs. Then the guy reidid it and for a while you had to buy his book to get the loads. Checking it just now, I see he now has SOME of the former loads on the site again.

Enigma, what exactly is your avatar? That stupid little thing can hypnotize me for minutes at a time. Is it someone you know? :lol:
 
Bob,

Just to show you I'm not a total jerk here's a load I've shot a lot from my Enfield No4 Mk1:

Case: Winchester / Remington
Primer: Winchester WLP
Powder / charge: Winchester 760 / 46.3grs
Bullet: Sierra 180gr Pro Hunter
Velocity: 2435 fps
Pressure: 46,550 PSI

With the exception of the Sierra bullet, this data is straight out of the 15th Edition of the Winchester Reloader's Manual.
As always, reduce the charge by 10% and work back up.

I've fired lots of this load (I actually load 46.0grs) and it is very accurate from my Enfield.

Joe
 
The loads my No4 MK2 and my NO5 Mk1 like are as follows:

Case: Remington
Primer: Winchester LRP (for Magnum & Standard)
Powder: 38.0gr H4895
Bullets: 180gr Sierra Pro Hunter or 180gr Speer SP RN
Velocities:
No 4 - 2365fps (both bullets)
No 5 - 2215 (Sierra) & 2201 (Speer)

As with any data on the net, check books, reduce loads and work up to *your* firearms.

Aqualung
 
Snake45 said:
Enigma said:
I strongly suggest reading the load data section at http://www.303british.com

A lot of very useful information there.
That used to be a great site with hundreds of loads right down to cast bullets and squibs. Then the guy reidid it and for a while you had to buy his book to get the loads. Checking it just now, I see he now has SOME of the former loads on the site again.

Enigma, what exactly is your avatar? That stupid little thing can hypnotize me for minutes at a time. Is it someone you know? :lol:

I went back to Steve's 303 site, and realized that it has changed since my last visit. Oh well, a guy's gotta make a living, I guess.

Re: my avatar ~ just something I saw one day and liked; it fit the mood I was in at the time. I agree, it can be hypnotizing; sometimes I sit and watch it for longer than I really should!
 
Enigma said:
I agree, it can be hypnotizing; sometimes I sit and watch it for longer than I really should!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

sorry to be off topic, but...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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