1200 guns, 2 tons of ammo

[GunnyGene]

Well here's a real mystery. Dead guy had all this in house!

Los Angeles police investigating a man's death discovered an arsenal of more than 1,200 firearms and approximately two tons of ammunition in his home and garage Monday.

The Los Angeles Times reported that the unidentified man's decomposing body was found in his car, which was parked down the street from his Pacific Palisades home earlier Monday.

LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith told the paper the number of guns was "staggering."

"Our truck couldn't carry it all," Smith said. "We had to go back and make another trip." The Times reported that many of the guns had never been fired, and some were still in boxes with price tags attached.

There were no signs of foul play in the man's death, nor was there any indication that he had been involved in criminal activity. However, detectives want to investigate why the man had so many guns and whether the weapons had been linked to any crimes.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/los-angeles-police-find-stash-1200-guns-in-dead-man-home/

 

[contender]

I read the story. They are planning on "investigating" to see if any of these guns are linked to any crimes. They said it will take a long time.
They did comment on how it was not illegal to own that many, but they wanted to make sure no crimes were committed with any of them. I'll bet they'll "find" a crime gun & it'll allow them to keep all of them.

 

[Mobuck]

I agree, they will find "something" to use as a reason to either confiscate or hold the firearms. The resulting "find" will be played over and over.
I wonder what the reaction would be if a similar story popped up but the find was monetary (cash, gold, silver). Would the media paint the owner as a quasi-criminal w/o any proof?

 

[roarindan51]

had those guns been books, or dishes nothing would be said.

 

[GunnyGene]

Some of the stash:

 

[tinman]

"The Times reported that many of the guns had never been fired, and some were still in boxes with price tags attached."

As has been said, if it was Hummel's, old coins or baseball cards there would have been no story......unless it was an even slower news day than this one. No news here, but I'd wager that every one of those firearms ends up getting (re)entered into the system. Yeah, gotta keep track of em ya know.
And, concerning that photo, if I were the heirs to this.....there would be a lawsuit to recoup the loss of value from how these were handled........

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

In Texas, he's just Bubba, who was a few guns short. (Punch line to a joke)

 

[6gun]

First thing that baffles me is how his body took so long to be discovered parked at the side of the road in Palisades and not noticed till it was decaying :?

Makes me angry seeing the picture of them just tossing all these guns in a big pile in the middle of the room like so much garbage, very disrespectful way to treat tens of thousands of dollars worth of guns that were someone's personal collection.

And what are they doing going through the guys personal belonging in the first place and why are they in his house instead of notifying his family letting them know he passed away so they could decide what to do with his house and belongings?

They must have found his address off his car registration to ID him and find his house and that would have been all they needed to contact his family, and if not finding his desk and paper work in his house likely would have them the answers I don't see how they justify raiding his house and removing personal property.

 

[frankenfab]

Some of the stash:

Nice to see they are taking care with that man's property, piling it all up like that.

 

[Ruger1441]

The ones that are new in box with price tags are sure to have been used in criminal activity.

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Sooooooooooooooooo Does this mean that the Police can come into your house and take all your guns at anytime or do you have to have 1200?? Or do I have to be dead first and they get here before the family does.
I like the way they put down the blue tarp so they can pick them up all at once.
This just ain't right.

 

[Bucks Owin]

Disgusting... :evil:

Hope his family raises hell over this crap...

 

[GunnyGene]

Taking a guess here, but I figure that's at least $1 million+ worth of firearms. Got no clue how much 2 tons of ammo might be worth, but probably at least $100K

I wonder if he was connected to Fast & Furious or some other .gov adventure. :shock:

 

[SAJohn]

Don't feel too bad for the heirs. These days homes in Pacific Palisades go for 1 to 10 million dollars. The heirs will have the resources to resolve this problem.

 

[Ruger1441]

:? Is sure is nice that some A holes piled them up so they could get all banged up

 

[graygun]

But look at all those semi auto pistols and assault rifles...egads what was he planning??!!!

 

[exavid]

So that's where all the .22 ammo was.

 

[blackhawknj]

The dead have no privacy. Sounds like he was too eccentric to have heirs or leave a will.

 

[wheelgun1958]

Don't feel too bad for the heirs. These days homes in Pacific Palisades go for 1 to 10 million dollars. The heirs will have the resources to resolve this problem.

The LAPD will find some connection to illegal activity and seize all accounts as well as property. Any heirs can file a greivance and maybe receive something in their lifetime after attorney fees and court costs. It's the way the game is played.

 

[Mike J]

Very disrespectful.

 

[Xsales]

Total direspect & since when is there a number to make it a crime?
100 guns is crazy? 200? 50,000 guns?

Who cares how many any thing anyone has - BS

Jay Leno owns HUNDREDS + of cars - better check him out HE must be a criminal

The way these firearms are being handled make we want to puke

 

[737tdi]

I as well am pissed at the way this property is being damaged. As mentioned above, what if this was Jay Leno's collection, would they pile the cars up like that? IMO they should have left them in the home, they are/were his property and now are the property of his heirs. If it were not the case then why is his furniture, clothing, tools, cars, etc. not being confiscated. They are breaking the law by taking this property and should have to pay the price.


Karl

 

[redhawker]

Got no clue how much 2 tons of ammo might be worth, but probably at least $100K

If it was all .22 LR maybe $200K.

 

[sebtool]

I as well am pissed at the way this property is being damaged. As mentioned above, what if this was Jay Leno's collection, would they pile the cars up like that? IMO they should have left them in the home, they are/were his property and now are the property of his heirs. If it were not the case then why is his furniture, clothing, tools, cars, etc. not being confiscated. They are breaking the law by taking this property and should have to pay the price.


Karl

+10!

The whole situation is pathetic. How many people passed the guy's body, obviously for several days, before someone actually decided to do something about it????

As far as LAPD, they're obviously in 'fund raising mode'. They more than likely broke down the front door to gain entrance the the fellow's home, then couldn't 'secure the residence properly'. His property was probably 'confiscated for safe keeping'....

How old was the deceased? Young guy covered in gang tatts, or elderly? I'm sure that they'll find a reason to confiscate the firearms, ammo, and property, even if they have to dig up some obscure 17th century law.

I hope his heirs sue the hell out of the department for illegal confiscation, as well as value lost to his collection due to damage from mishandling his property. As I'm sure it's going to take quite a while till the dust settles, the interest that could accrue on the $$$ value could be substantial.

 

[graygun]

I don't think he had enough ammo for 1,200 guns.

 

[powder smoke]

More over reach of authority and disregard for the heirs belongings.
America Land of the free. :roll: ps

 

[contender]

I see at least 2 Ruger handguns in the pile.

 

[Poprivit]

Remember - LAPD. California, where guns are evil, can't hunt with lead bullets, and I think I'll move there so I can marry my gerbil.

(I left San Jose, CA after 40 years in the Air Conditioning business. Could not deal with the people. Plus, I'm of Irish descent, so I was a minority.)

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

First off, how do they justify this? Do they have probable cause? Do they have a warrant? I have to believe they are breaking more than a few laws here. Of course I'm sure this top notch DOJ will go along with this since the deceased is probably white.

 

[Revolver-Time]

I am wondering about this strange place we are living in. It use to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. Now I think we are going to have to show them how brave we can be to reclaim the land of the free.