rkrcpa
Single-Sixer
The Flattop 41 magnums are built on the large frame.
41 Magnum
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Which means: they are capable of Magnum loads as I understand it;
Medium size frames are NOT.
J.
rkrcpa
Single-Sixer
Yes, all magnums are capable of magnum loads.The factory didn't make 41 or 44 magnums on the mid frame.
Hankus
Blackhawk
Any Bisley Blackhawk or Super Blackhawk will have adjustable sights. Just not the Vaqueros.
vlavalle
Single-Sixer
But the flattop is a mid frame!
rkrcpa
Single-Sixer
No, the 41 and 44 magnum Flat tops are on the large frame. All others are on the mid frame.
The only way to get a mid frame 41 magnum Flat Top is to have it custom made.
If you are talking about the flattop in my picture, sorry for the confusion, that is a 357. I said that, but wasn't very clear. I said the two 357's both came with white grips, and I had to buy them for the 41 Magnum Bisley. So the Flattop and the Stainless revolver are both 357's.
The 357 in my picture is indeed a mid frame gun. It's one of those 357/9mm convertibles with a steel grip frame. Very nice gun, accurate and easy to handle. With the additional weight of the steel frame, it makes 9mm feel like 22's.
Here's another picture of it the mid frame flattop 357.
Sorry I wasn't more clear in my first post.
And @Wyandot Jim I'm sorry to say, this picture also has the gun, not pointed down range. You can't tell from the picture, but it's actually pointed at my truck. My range is a member's only place, and like today for example, there was someone on the rifle range, and I was at a pistol bay distinctly separated from the rifle range. Nobody else was around at all.
I usually take a break and stop to get some pictures when shooting. The gun wasn't loaded. Next time I'm there I'll get some pictures of the range as a whole. It's pretty nice.
And @Wyandot Jim I'm sorry to say, this picture also has the gun, not pointed down range. You can't tell from the picture, but it's actually pointed at my truck. My range is a member's only place, and like today for example, there was someone on the rifle range, and I was at a pistol bay distinctly separated from the rifle range. Nobody else was around at all.
Get in safe habits and you do not have to be concerned if someone is around or not
My habit at ranges is empty and loading gate open muzzle pointed down range when not in use. Makes other shooters happy.
So what's the story on the 357??? It looks like a high polish and the lose cylinder has a bevel on it.
Get in safe habits and you do not have to be concerned if someone is around or not
My habit at ranges is empty and loading gate open muzzle pointed down range when not in use. Makes other shooters happy.So what's the story on the 357??? It looks like a high polish and the lose cylinder has a bevel on it.
contender
Ruger Guru
"But the flattop is a mid frame!"
Not all of them.
In the beginning,, the first OM .357's & .44's were Flattops, and on a medium frame. The Super Blackhawk came out with a larger frame,, and by 1963,, Ruger transitioned to the "protected ears" and larger frame. Gone were the original FT's.
Then, the New Model Flattops were introduced on the mid-sized frame,, in .357. BUT,,, due to the level of loads,, the .41 magnum, and the .44 Magnum Flattops were built on the large frame.
As our dear departed FlatGate would say; "Get the books!" (Meaning, study the history!)
Not all of them.
In the beginning,, the first OM .357's & .44's were Flattops, and on a medium frame. The Super Blackhawk came out with a larger frame,, and by 1963,, Ruger transitioned to the "protected ears" and larger frame. Gone were the original FT's.
Then, the New Model Flattops were introduced on the mid-sized frame,, in .357. BUT,,, due to the level of loads,, the .41 magnum, and the .44 Magnum Flattops were built on the large frame.
As our dear departed FlatGate would say; "Get the books!" (Meaning, study the history!)
I don't like books Ty......... I HAVE YOU..!!!
Besides, I just can't read very well...... takes me a very long time to read a couple of pages, and then I miss most of it.. :-(. That's why I turn to the forum: FAST, ACCURATE and, most of all, CONCISE and to the point. God Bless you guys/gals.
J.
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contender
Ruger Guru
But,, but,, Johnnu2,,, you read here,,,,!
FlatGate used to to have a few things he repeated a lot to folks. RTFM (Read The Fun Manual, and yes,, I've cleaned up the real wording.) And "Buy the Books!"
As far as I can find,, I have all the published books on Rugers. And while some of the older ones have mistakes,, they are all still excellent resources on our beloved Rugers. Plus,, I've got a collection of all the factory published catalogs to reference things.
Education is the key,, and as it's well known,, "knowledge is power!"
I do not mind sharing what I know,, but I too make mistakes,, ESPECIALLY if I try & use my faded memory when answering a question that's seldom asked. Throw in all the stuff in the recent decade with all the NM's & all, I can easily make mistakes.
FlatGate used to to have a few things he repeated a lot to folks. RTFM (Read The Fun Manual, and yes,, I've cleaned up the real wording.) And "Buy the Books!"
As far as I can find,, I have all the published books on Rugers. And while some of the older ones have mistakes,, they are all still excellent resources on our beloved Rugers. Plus,, I've got a collection of all the factory published catalogs to reference things.
Education is the key,, and as it's well known,, "knowledge is power!"
I do not mind sharing what I know,, but I too make mistakes,, ESPECIALLY if I try & use my faded memory when answering a question that's seldom asked. Throw in all the stuff in the recent decade with all the NM's & all, I can easily make mistakes.
moparclan
Single-Sixer
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Lot of great looking .41's!
My dad got me started in that caliber and it is still one of my favorites. Have several .41 Redhawk's, OM and NM .41 Blackhawks and a Marlin Limited 1894 Cowboy in the .41 caliber. Only 1000 made in that series. Bought it when they first came out for $500, a friend with a FFL ordered for me.
My dad got me started in that caliber and it is still one of my favorites. Have several .41 Redhawk's, OM and NM .41 Blackhawks and a Marlin Limited 1894 Cowboy in the .41 caliber. Only 1000 made in that series. Bought it when they first came out for $500, a friend with a FFL ordered for me.
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Most of my custom guns have been in 41 and I'm luck to have a twin to your Marlin .
Gotta admit I'm a 41 fan as well, wish I had a lever gun to go with these. The FA83 is one I special ordered a couple years ago when there was the conversation about 3 Rugers or a FA. I sold 3 Rugers, ordered the FA, now I'm down to just 4.
I have 8 Bisleys that have adjustable sights.
If revolver is Bisley Vaquero, you are right, non-adjustable sights:
Also, Ruger made some small frame 22 Bisley with fixed sights, but from what I found, those are quite few:
All other "standard" Bisley revolvers, as others pointed, with adjustable sights only.
needsmostuff
Blackhawk
Grip frames these days are like musical chairs these days.
ANY Single Action Ruger can be a Bisley.
ANY Single Action Ruger can be a Bisley.
Correct! However, I am assuming that when we are talking about "BISLEY" revolver here, those are revolvers as they were produced by Ruger.
As a matter of fact, I have revolver that never existed as a factory made; Bisley, 44 Magnum, stainless, 5.5", with fluted cylinder, created using standard SBH and installing Bisley parts from Bisley Vaquero.
As a matter of fact, I have revolver that never existed as a factory made; Bisley, 44 Magnum, stainless, 5.5", with fluted cylinder, created using standard SBH and installing Bisley parts from Bisley Vaquero.
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