Yet another idiot at a LGS...

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rugerguy211

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It amazes me how often I see some idiot walk up to the counter, pull a loaded handgun out of a holster, and hand it to the counter person! It happened again on Friday at a LGS. There's a sign on the door. There's a sign at the counter.
NO LOADED GUNS IN THE STORE!

This must happen almost daily at shops because I've seen it so often and I only go to a shop maybe once a month!

The level of stupidity that surrounds us is astounding at times!
 
Yep,,, we all see it way too much.

I went to a "Celebration of Life" memorial this past Friday evening. It was at the indoor gun range & shop that the deceased had built. His widow has kept it going & all, and she's big into getting ladies into shooting. I saw several folks carrying,, yet not a single one pulled out a gun. Made me smile.
 
rugerguy211 said:
It amazes me how often I see some idiot walk up to the counter, pull a loaded handgun out of a holster, and hand it to the counter person! It happened again on Friday at a LGS. There's a sign on the door. There's a sign at the counter.
NO LOADED GUNS IN THE STORE!

This must happen almost daily at shops because I've seen it so often and I only go to a shop maybe once a month!

The level of stupidity that surrounds us is astounding at times!

Never saw that, or any signs with that policy, here. But I agree that if you're bringing a loaded firearm in to be worked on you should at least have the common sense to inform the counter guy and ask if it's ok to clear it before handing it over, whether there's a sign or not.
 
One gun shop I saw had a pipe to point it into to dry fire / clear a gun. Seems like a good idea.
 
I recall one bad incident in southern California many years ago I was in a large well know gun store. A guy was buying both a Python and a riot type shotgun. He looked to be a outlaw biker type, was big, mean and muscular. Why he picked me out I dont know, but he was loudly telling me about his ol lady leaving him for some guy and he had plans for these babys and was twirling the Python and the shotgun! The clerk was a smaller milktoast type that had to hear him along with everyone else in the store. I couldn't believe it when he made no objection to the sale! I do think he was scared not to!
 
I know a couple shops here that happened at and the customer was told to leave and not return. I'd do the same. If you're supposedly a responsible gun owner, you damn well better have the common sense that entails. Don't care if there's a sign or not.
 
Posted at my LGS, multiple places, "DO NOT PULL A GUN IN THIS STORE". For those who still fail to comprehend or who cannot read, or are simply stupid, a counter person, one in particular will most willingly translate the sign for you. Common sense is usually the commodity most lacking at a gun counter. If only the commando BS could be transformed into common sense.......
 
Many years ago I went into a gun store with a revolver (unloaded of course) in one of those zippered clam shell type cases. I placed it on the counter and told the clerk "I'll let you open this since there's a gun in it". He replied "I appreciate that". Of course I also told him the gun was not loaded.

It doesn't take much brain power to be courteous and safe.
 
Well, here's something a little different. I was in a small gun shop a month ago or so and the guy behind the counter, that I had never met before, was carrying a side arm. I have never, ever asked anyone in a shop what they were carrying but for some reason I asked this guy. He immediately took his firearm out of the holster and handed it to me. I was speechless and just handed it back.
 
nekvermont said:
Well, here's something a little different. I was in a small gun shop a month ago or so and the guy behind the counter, that I had never met before, was carrying a side arm. I have never, ever asked anyone in a shop what they were carrying but for some reason I asked this guy. He immediately took his firearm out of the holster and handed it to me. I was speechless and just handed it back.

Yep.. That's an idiot all right..

Here's one for ya..

Gunshop in my old town.. Idiot behind the counter.. Guy walks in, asks to see a .357 magnum Smith & Wesson.. Idiot behind counter says "sure thing!" Hands gun to guy, then turns to answer ringing phone.. Talks on phone for ten minutes or so never bothering to watch what is going on.. Turns around finally, and gun and guy are both gone! Now, there was one other employee in the store.. The owner actually.. He was busy helping another guy pick out a new 9mm which the guy bought.. But the idiot that was supposed to be watching, wasn't..

Cops called of course.. FBI, etc... I'll bet you boys can guess the rest of the hassles for that shop.. Needless to say, idiot had much explaining to do to cops and shop owner, and probably more than that.. Idiot didn't have a job to say the least..

Gun was never located.. Neither was the thief.. Somewhere, there is a very HOT S&W .357 magnum..
 
I used to work in the gun department in our hardware store in town. I came back after having lunch and found the department manager assisting a customer, and noticed a 10-22 laying on the front counter. I picked it up as I asked the boss what it was laying there for, and as I did, I dropped the mag and opened the action. There was a full magazine in it and a round in the chamber. Boss said one of our local nitwit customers had brought it in and left it there so we could mount a scope for him. We have a lot of imbeciles in this town. I quit that job before any of them got a chance to accidently shoot me.
 
My neighbor was at a LGS counter waiting for the clerk to get off the phone. Another customer comes in, hands the clerk a revolver, and tells her, "It's jammed and loaded, need to see the gunsmith". The clerk, still on the phone, starts looking at the gun, and it fires into the display case in front of my neighbor. Luckily, he had taken a few steps back as he saw what was going on. The manager comes out screaming at the customer as my neighbor was leaving, never to return.
 
Several years ago when I was working for a defense contractor in Kuwait, an Army officer walked into the Arms Room and whipped out his M11 pistol (Sig P228), and started waving it around complaining about a missing grip screw. I snatched it out of his hand and immediately cleared it. It was not loaded, but of course he protested the manner in which I had handled the situation. I explained that I didn't want to get shot, even by accident, and pointed to the sign, prominently displayed, that stated all weapons would be brought into the building with bolts or slides locked to the rear, with magazines removed - AFTER being cleared at the clearing point outside. He didn't say much after that.
 
All these stories of bad stuff bother me. I understand that there are idiots of various descriptions out there doing idiot stuff. But that's the nature of idiots. The non-idiots just need to be aware and take appropriate precautions.

Live long and prosper. :mrgreen:
 
this is what you get when the gun industry is only interested in selling guns to every man, woman, and child for profit.
instead of selling to people who spend time hanging around trained and skilled owners beforehand...youll continue to see it.
im not spared this shameful act.
care to ask how many times i pumped live shotshells out of a gun claimed to be unloaded at my range?

ive said it over and over....we as americans have a right to bear arms.
but it doesnt say all americans are smart enough to bear them.
 
GunnyGene said:
All these stories of bad stuff bother me. I understand that there are idiots of various descriptions out there doing idiot stuff. But that's the nature of idiots. The non-idiots just need to be aware and take appropriate precautions.

Live long and prosper. :mrgreen:

Agreed, hence the very plain and clear signs intended for those who need a sign. Sadly there are still those who cannot appreciate the sign and require a more personal directive. :wink: In those cases where the eyes fail, a very loud and direct verbal translation seems to get through at the ears.

I have seen on two occasions where a gun has been brought in for trade and then watched as the owner unloaded them, all the while totally ignoring the potential customer who is insisting they're unloaded. The last one, a Remington 870, fully loaded and chamber hot, about a month ago.
 
Cholo said:
Who can forget these 2 Einsteins? Cop shoots his finger off in gun store:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSmDXVM9FJs

A double dose of stupid in that video. I was cringing while waiting for the shot as the "cop" swept the other customer and clerk down from him at the counter. Wonder of wonders that only a finger was lost.
 
bobski said:
this is what you get when the gun industry is only interested in selling guns to every man, woman, and child for profit.
instead of selling to people who spend time hanging around trained and skilled owners beforehand...youll continue to see it.
im not spared this shameful act.
care to ask how many times i pumped live shotshells out of a gun claimed to be unloaded at my range?

ive said it over and over....we as americans have a right to bear arms.
but it doesnt say all americans are smart enough to bear them.

Help me out here. How are the manufacturers to control who purchases a gun (within legal guidelines). Should they require a purchaser to present a certificate of training to the LGS at the time of purchase? How about a sworn and notarized affidavit from a known, experienced owners attesting to the fact that the purchaser has been mentored by them. Diane Feinstein would love these purchase preconditions.

Oh and manufacturers want to sell to children? Really??

I'm interested in how you believe it should be handled by the manufacturers.
 
There is a LGS in my area that is not on the top of the list for customer service but the one thing I can say for them is they are death on safety..the counter is at the rear of the shop and as you walk in the front door it says "no loaded firearms"...clear every gun with one of the staff before entering the store..no exceptions". I watched a guy come in the door one day....had 2 soft shotgun cases with shotguns in them....came barging through past the front counter and headed for the rear...he didn't get 10 steps before 2 of the employees had him by the arms and headed him back out the front door and told him to leave and not come back...they do mean business.

I frequently shop 2 larger pawn shops that do a lively trade in guns....in both places all the employees are armed and are all excellent gun people. I'd hate to get out of line in either place..might make for a very bad day. Both are dead serious about any loaded firearms in the store...nobody touches a gun until it's been cleared and ok'd...and when someone "Sweeps" the area they have whatever gun they are "inspecting" taken away from them and a discussion follows..any hassle and out they go.
 
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