What is the ultimate . . . . .

I have yet to find a factory model that is exactly the way I want it.

Putting quotation marks around "Improvements" the way you have is really implying that you don't believe that factory firearms can be improved. I've owned over 300 firearms in the last 20yrs, and have yet to find a single one that didn't need SOME KIND of action work, refinement, etc to bring it up to my standards. I buy factory firearms with the intent of modifying them, as it's often cheaper to do that than buying custom actions and paying a smith to build them. Even on affordable rimfires rifles, adding a bedding job will almost always make MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENTS in accuracy.

Another "improvement" might be a duracoat/cerakoe/hydrographic finish job, transforming a black synthetic and blued rifle into a concealable game getter. There is no black in nature, and too many of these low quality "blued" finishes that are so common these days LOOK black, let alone the cheap tupperware black stocks they strap them into. Should an animal ever be able to spot your rifle before you ventilated it? Not really, but some times they have keener eyes than we do. I'm not a "camo gun" guy, but I'm much more into camo guns than black guns (referring only to finish, not to AR's).

The "wear it in" trigger job is a joke to me. Nothing but a great opportunity to ruin what could have been a good trigger by working it over itself with uneven sear engagement and rough mating surfaces. It'll slick up as one surface eats away the other, but it'll always feel "grittier" and have a rougher travel than a properly tuned trigger. A heavy spring will work in with a bit of use, but it's still a heavy spring. A 14lb mainspring will never become a 9lb mainspring, even if it might lighten up from a factory 16lb over strength to a regular 14lb.

And of course, there are those of us that want our guns to look as good as they shoot. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and you can't please everybody, but I don't think there's anything wrong with throwing some embellishment on a firearm that you're going to build memories with in the field.

If you don't want to modify your firearms or have them professionally modified, that's fine, they're your guns. But there's no real sense in diminishing the REAL advantage of action jobs and trigger jobs that other people want in their firearms just because they have different standards than you.
 
Last time I took one of my MK3 out to the club, this guy walks up and tells me it's nice, but I must get this trigger set, and I must get his grips, and must get his sight. didn't know him from Adam. I think he wanted to show me his gun so I dutifully walked over and checked it out. Nice. He was grinning like a kid when I squeezed his 3 oz trigger. I am glad he was happy, I was happy that he was happy. I didn't change a thing on my gun except the grips to another style I liked. People are like that with a lot of guns, and of course AR15 nuts are the worst.
 
gatorhugger said:
"I didn't change a thing on my gun except the grips to another style I liked. People are like that with a lot of guns, and of course AR15 nuts are the worst."
Ummm, yea, sure, I disagree .. .. .. women that are really into horses are worse ! :lol:
 
Varminterror said:
If you don't want to modify your firearms or have them professionally modified, that's fine, they're your guns. But there's no real sense in diminishing the REAL advantage of action jobs and trigger jobs that other people want in their firearms just because they have different standards than you.
Go back to the original post. My complaint is the people, many with little or
no experience, go out and buy a gun and . . . immediately . . . ask about what
the best mod's are or what they should change.

To those people I say, just shoot it for a while. Once you have 500 or a
thousand rounds through it, THEN decide if you need to change anything.

As to the trigger and rough parts making things worse, isn't that what
manufacturers warranties are for? If you have NOT changed anything,
the manufacturer will fix what ever was wrong. If you went in and changed
parts, they will tell you to take a hike.
 
What does 500-1,000 rounds do for a gun? A rough or ill-fit bolt will mar its receiver, or vice versa, whereas you could have fixed that straight away. A gritty trigger will start to FEEL smoother a bit by nature, as the rough edge of either the trigger or sear might route it's own groove into the mating part, which might end up in an unsafe trigger condition a couple thousand rounds later (been there on a Marlin 60) - cleaning up those surfaces right off the bat would prevent any of that damage. An 11lb Ruger DA trigger will never become a an 8 1/2lb trigger just by "breaking it in".

Leave your guns bone stock if you want, but don't mislead others to believe that a knocking motor will flatten its own idle just by running it down the road a few thousand miles.
 
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