vehicle accident while carrying?

[shootinfule]

Has any one experienced a trip via ambulance to a hospital after being in a traffic accident while carrying?

 

[SR1911SHOOTER]

Has any one experienced a trip via ambulance to a hospital after being in a traffic accident while carrying?

shootinfule,
Never happened to me, nor do I know anyone that happened to. I decided long ago
that if this happened, If conscious, I would inform either a police officer or the paramedics.
Otherwise what else can you do? Put a sticker in the window, "Firearm on board"? :roll:
Blackie

 

[Don Lovel]

Yeah, I dropped my motorcycle on my way home from work as a security guard. I slid on my Sig P229 in it's kydex holster, couple scratches on the gun and saved my hip from road rash. I asked the responding firemen if any of them was an NRA member, one said, "Yeah I am", so I asked if he would secure the weapon til police arrived. He took care of it in the pocket of his bunker coat til the cops took it.
At the hospital, a KCMO cop talked to my wife and had her come out to his patrol car in the ER parking lot where he handed her the Sig, 4 unloaded mags and a pile of 40 S&W ammo.
Asking if one of the firemen was an NRA member is something I would not hesitate to do again. If you can't trust a fellow NRA member, then I don't see who you could trust.

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

It's been so long ago, it almost falls into the ancient history category. 1984 I was headed to work, driving about 45-50 MPH and a lady pulled out in front of me, and got T-boned. We were both hurt pretty badly. Since I was on the way to work I wasn't packing but had my gun and holster in the car. The cop got in the ambulance where I was and I noticed his coat swing open, and I'm thinking, he's got the same kind of gun I do. (Ruger SS Speed Six in a Bianchi holster) Anyway he's talking to me and asking questions (by now it's been established that I wasn't at fault) and he asked me about the gun. I told him it was still in the vehicle from a weekend fishing trip, and was I in trouble? He said, if you had been at fault, drunk, drugs whatever this would have been added to all the other charges we could think of, but since you weren't just have someone meet us at the hospital and I'll turn it over to them. I did and he did. All's well that ends well.

 

[WIL TERRY]

Yep, sure have. Spent a month in the hospital. When I got back to work two weeks after that the pistol was on my desk with the magazine out and all rounds in an envelope courtesy of the State Trooper.
The Dr's had had a betting pool on how long I'd last and I beat that too !!!
And so it goes....

 

[Heliman]

7or 8 years ago I was coming home from work. I was rear ended and pushed into the vehicle in front of me. I sustained what turned out to be a minor back injury. At the time I was pretty sore. The respondents wanted to transport me to the hospital. I declined. The reason being is I was a Washington resident in Oregon without an Oregon conceal carry permit for that state and I had a P3AT in my front pocket. Didn't want the hassle or possible consequences. I later went to the ER on my own.

Dave

 

[SamV]

This doesn't count, but last winter I took a spill down some black ice glazed concrete steps. I broke some vertebrae and a few ribs. I couldn't get up. I had to stay on the iced concrete walk for an hour waiting for the paramedics. Not sure what was worse, the pain or the frozen buns. Just before the paramedics arrived, I was able to wiggle my hand into my pocket and hand off my firearm to my son.

 

[WAYNO]

I imagine this is always case by case, or jurisdiction by jurisdiction.

A couple years ago, a buddy of mine crashed his bike. The cops and EMT's were there. One of the paramedics took us aside, handed my buddy's pistol to us, and just said, take care of this. Seems they wanted no responsibility for chain of custody.

WAYNO.

 

[kmoore]

Yes, two times but, both I was in uniform. Dealt with that more from the other end. Securing a firearm from a victim of a crash. So, just have to tell this story. I respond to a crash at night. The guy is it the ambulance. So, I walk around the scene. I see someone walking down a embankment onto the road near the scene. I point the flash light that way and notice a item laying in the road. The guy is going right toward it. I yelled for him to stop and he did as I realized that a 1911 is laying in the road. That guy leaves. The gun came from the vehicle and was tossed out thru a broken window. The owner came and picked it up at the office a few days later. Lucky for him I showed up when I did or he would have lost his 1911.

 

[warren5421]

Was t-boned by a teen. Had a Colt Officers .45 on me. EMT asked how to unload it and put on my chest. Cop followed to hospital, doctors were not happy about it. Cop asked if I wanted him to hold it at office till I could pick up I said sure and picked up two days later.

 

[blume357]

I'd take my chances with any police officer or fireman (and I'm one that always questions authority) before I'd ever throw my gun out a window for sure. Even if the accident was my fault, but I guess that is because drugs or alcohol is never going to be a factor regardless. Then again I'm from the old school here in S.C. and if I was a cop responding to an accident I would just assume... there was a gun either in the car or on someone.

 

[bogus bill]

I just posted this story less than a week ago.

In 1971 in California I got in a bad motorcycle wreck that should have killed me. I was packing and was found out. I had passed a group of other motorcycles at night, trying to catch up with a buddy who had got ahead of me in traffic. I was riding a full dress Harley. I never wore eye glass`s until that very day. I think I was still stepping over a garden hose as I wasn't used to them. I came into a 45 MPH curve at about a 100 (according to the CHP officer). I had started to pass a car, the devil speeded up, I speeded up and got a high speed wobble. It was a new Harley to me, but I had another Harley and also had rode for a long time. I speeded up even faster trying to get through the wobble and I took out the sign, it was a mountain road and I went off the side and ended up on a abandoned RR track far below. One of the cyclist that I had passed figured I was chasing my buddy, raced ahead and told Bill that your buddy just got killed! The others plus other motorists got down to me. When my buddy showed I asked the people to step back, I wanted a word alone with my buddy. Bill nodded, he knew what was coming off and I palmed him my gun. The CHP and ambulance showed and they had some people rope me on the stretcher up the cliff. Later in ER here come the CHIP again. He run the nurses out and said he wanted a word with me alone. He said, "Now what did you hand your buddy? Someone told me you handed him a plastic bag!" I knew they must have seen me hand Bill my S&W model 60 and it would have looked like a plastic bag as it was a full moon night. I frankly told the officer that. He said was it loaded? I gave him the required no. You gonna write me? Naw. Your suffering enough.

 

[clintsfolly]

A good friend how is a Dr.was has property on Bois Blanc Island out in Lake Huron. He was marking corner markers with fence posts. Using a cheap driver that was to short. The island is real rocky soil. He was drive a post and raised the drive off the post and came down with his pinky petweem the post top and handle. Just about cut it off. They wrapped his hand in a rag and headed to the cabin. Lucky for him I of the guys had flown his chopper up. In less then 3hr he was in Lansing hospital with his Colt 10 mm on his hip. Hospital security held his gun and returned it in his room at check out.

 

[CGDustDevil]

He said, "Now what did you hand your buddy? Someone told me you handed him a plastic bag!" I knew they must have seen me hand Bill my S&W model 60 and it would have looked like a plastic bag as it was a full moon night. I frankly told the officer that. He said was it loaded? I gave him the required no. You gonna write me? Naw. Your suffering enough.

You sure wouldn't get away with that today... :? I sure miss 45 years ago!

Regards, Pete

 

[bogus bill]

I had another incident more intense than that one. I no doubt wrote about it before, but have things I need to do. May relate it again later. But you are right, I would hate those incidents to happen today. The next one happened right down town Los Angeles.

 

[SAJohn]

This story is not completely related to the topic but I once stopped by a LEO as I was driving away from a liquor store. Night had set while I was in the store and the street was so bright I failed to turn on my headlights.

The first thing I told him was that I was licensed to carry. He asked me where the firearm was and I told him that it under the front seat. He smiled and told me not to reach under the seat then explained about my headlights being off while departing a liquor store that had set off his alarm bells. We then talked guns for a few minutes which helped convince him I was sober and I was free to go home.

Another encounter was when I had car troubles which required a water pump replacement at a small town in central California. A foot patrol cop (it was a really small town) stopped to chat about my car woes. Guns quickly became a topic of conversation. This was just after the first Dirty Harry movie had been released. I asked him if he had ever seen or handled an S&W model 29 .44 magnum. He had not but really wanted to ( those revolvers were almost impossible to come by after that movie). I opened the trunk, pulled mine out and unloaded it so he could try out the outstanding trigger pull. Having it loaded in the trunk was actually illegal.

As all of the above post stories effectively say, most LEO's are really good guys and only want to get bad guys, not hang good guys on legal fine print.

 

[kmoore]

On my post, I meant the gun was propelled thru a broken window. The guy had it laying on the front seat before the crash. It ended up maybe 20 feet away with glass etc. on the roadway. He was a a lawful gun owner, only one in the car.

 

[graygun]

If the accident is your fault and you have a gun,there is an additional charge?

 

[bogus bill]

Okay, here is that other story I was referring to in my last post. The short version. About 1975 I and a girl were driving through downtown Los Angeles. I had a 1964 Cadillac Coupe Deville. She was driving. The car wasn't my main ride and I only had liability on it. We got T-boned by two drunks that came out of a bar`s parking lot. Got hit in my passenger door. They scratched out. I told Diane, catch up, I need that plate number. (No uninsured motorist insurance). The guys were driving a hot new Mach something Ford. They went on the freeway with Diane in hot pursuit. I had turned a tiger or Angie Dickenson loose! (Police woman). They got off at a off ramp with her on their tail probably thinking she couldn't hang with them in the short fast turn. They zoomed into a large parking garage knocking off the arm in front of the toll booth. I noticed a black attendant diving out of the shack. They took a dead end and she blocked them. Now the driver put it in reverse and hit us again. She was backing up. I was yelling for her to stop as my door wouldn't open. She was yelling I am going to get those "fatherless gentlemen". They did get her to back up as they backed into our front end a couple times. Then they spun out going to the next level and she broadsided them! Now she did get out. I had to slide out on her side. I noticed my Smith Model 60 (Same gun as in my MC accident prior post) had slid out from hiding under the drivers seat. I grabbed it up, went to the drivers door and yelled for him to get out. He instead locked themselves in. In a stupid moment I hit his window with the gun to inspire him to get out. He did. He was a Latino. Maybe no paperwork? Hey mun, why de gawn? Can not we settle thees without gawns? That was too much for me and I said yeah, put the smith in my left and gave him a roundhouse with my right. Then the other guy came around and said he would keel me if I did not have that gun. Now I was hot. I stupidly gave Diane the gun. The guy backed off and tried kicking me as I advanced. Then I hear Diane yelling to the other guy who had got up to back off or she would shoot him! She had the gun in both hands and the fool was actually stumbling towards her! Things had got out of hand. I walked over and took the gun from her. I told her to take our car and go find some cops. She left. I held the two. While we were waiting they were rehearsing their story. The story was to be they ran because I had pulled the gun on them after the first "accident". Along with that they kept telling me after this was over they would hunt me down and keel me. I kept them about 15 feet away. I seen two guys walking like they was going to go past us through the building. Civilian cloths but I knew. At the moment I had my gun in my pocket with my hand on it. I called the guys over, "Are you security"? They were. I briefly told them what happened, noticed one did have a gun in his waistband and told them I have a gun in my pocket. I am going to pull it out and give it to you. I did. Then a cruiser pulled up with two cops with a shotgun on me and patted me down. Other, eventually many other cruisers pulled up. Diane in the back seat of one. It looked like the entire shift or a police funeral! Diane was heaping coal`s on the guys heads. Said they threw plastic bags out of their car while she was chasing them etc. Funny, I didn't see that.
They took us to the station and I had to fill out some paperwork etc. At one point one of the cops had ME unload my revolver. He couldn't as I used to carry a shot load on top. Lived on the desert and it was for rattlers. When I had hit the car window with the gun that Speer shot capsule hand-load had jarred forward tying up the gun! Eventually the two lead officers took us to see the watch-master. He asked the cops what to do with us. They just grinned and said nothing. I knew what was coming off but could see Diane was scared. The old watch commander pointed at me and said put him in jail and throw "Barney Oldfield" in there with him! Then the cops drove us back to my car, gave me my gun AND ammo back to me.
No, I wouldn't want that to try that again. Things dont always go like you suspect they would/should EVEN in California. Yes, I know they checked me out, and I did have a "OPEN CARRY LICENSE FOR UNIFORM ONLY" but I was off duty from my guard job and not in uniform. I talked to one of the cops about it and he told me I didn't get hooked up because of my "Demeanor", but I already knew that. Don`t count on it though. It probably didn't hurt that there were already warrants out on the driver, but I never did ask what for.

 

[kmoore]

To answer that question, this is Oregon law or a part of the whole law. If you commit a crime and have a carry permit. The permit will be revoked at the time of arrest. A crash is not normally a crime unless it was a intentional act or reckless or mostly this happens because of a DUII. Those are popular and when the officer IDs the driver, the dispatch always telling the officer if the person has a permit. Officer mails the permit back to the SO who issued it. It maybe reissued if the crime is dismissed or in case of DUII the person goes to diversion. Remember that is Oregon, your state law maybe and is likely different. No additional charge because of having a gun a a vehicle during a crash unless that having the gun was illegal to begin with.

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

If the accident is your fault and you have a gun,there is an additional charge?

Not necessarily, but if you were intoxicated, or they find drugs, or other numerous illegal things the gun charge will be added in most jurisdictions.