you got it, they are NOT something to mess with my uncle up in Val D'Or,Que. was treed by a moose when he was calling across the river with a rolled up hunk of tree bark, another got behind him and as I said "treed " him, he screwed up and left his rifle leaning against another ,smaller tree, walked to the edge of the water to 'call' the moose he could see, the ne behind him treed him in another bigger tree, banged the hell out of his tree, he unloaded his revolver into the top of its head and it walked off into the woods before it dropped dead...AND we were shown a picture by the police chief of Val D"Or,.,, of a guy that hit an 1800 pound moose, knocked it down, the moose trampled his 1960 Chrysler ,killing him and it too went off into the woods before it dropped dead.....ouch!! a real learning experience.......:cool::oops: