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Hmmm... on the1/6/26 thread "rough rider 45 colt" mr gyj44 dident bother to land on s4su for saying the rr45 was assembled here from imported parts, tho he was active on the same thread. If i could stop laughing long enough to think like a paranoiac, i could say hes picking on me...
Had bigger fish to fry in that thread. You posted such a flurry of misinformation in this one, it was hard to overlook. I only responded because except that Pietta made .45Colt SAA replicas for Heritage, every other bit of this is wrong, period. No "agree to disagree", it's simply false.

.....but the hrr 32 mag 25 years ago was allegedly a pietta, as were thr 44 mag, 45colt, and 45/410 saa clones they briefly marketed.
They did not make the .32's or the .410's and I don't know what .44's you're even talking about. Further, the .410 is not an SAA "clone", it's an upsized Rough Rider and even has a ZAMAK frame.


I dislike people telling me i am wrong, ignore my evidence.....
What evidence? You made the false claims, the onus is on you to prove them. So far you have provided nothing to support it, just a lot of posturing and deflecting.
 
Had bigger fish to fry in that thread. You posted such a flurry of misinformation in this one, it was hard to overlook. I only responded because except that Pietta made .45Colt SAA replicas for Heritage, every other bit of this is wrong, period. No "agree to disagree", it's simply false.


They did not make the .32's or the .410's and I don't know what .44's you're even talking about. Further, the .410 is not an SAA "clone", it's an upsized Rough Rider and even has a ZAMAK frame.



What evidence? You made the false claims, the onus is on you to prove them. So far you have provided nothing to support it, just a lot of posturing and deflecting.
Ah. So i "posted such a flurry of misinformation" thst you had to respond. All i did was mention that i had come across stories that the steel 22 and 32 hrrs were allegedly a pietta, and you came at me. Now, you are back to saying taffin and bell are wrong, since they both have heritage 45s as being assembled with pietta parts. That means s4su is just as wrong as they are, but i agree with s4su and taffin and bell. But you sure put a lot of energy into something you admit you dont care about (Heritage), and accusing me of not putting up anything, when i referenced taffin and bell writing that hrr assembled pietta parts in florida, is lame. Saying i said the 410 (that you dident even know about until i posted it ) is steel, is another of your fabrications. Beginning to doubt your hundred saa collection, too, and claims of consulting bell and taffin for holsters is beginning to sound like bluff-n-fluff as well....
Meanwhile, still casually looking for better pietta-parts references, but since you wont accept the words of two great gunwriters i dont know what will stand up to your scrutinious standards.
Adit; the 44 magnum hrr must have been misinformstion on the part of the salesman who sold me one of the pair of hrr/pietta 45s i had a while back, since it is unsupported elsewhere, tho hrr did have 357 magnums via pietta.
 
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I guess some took it as a challenge to screw with the bots.
Yep, they are screwy, them bots. On this thread alone i began searching for magazine and website support or refutation of pietta-parts HRRs, and while finding john taffin, and la vista bill postings that support it, as well as s.a.s.s. on facebook, google ai started with no, they werent, and devolved to yes, they did, but while amusing is of no more than comedy value to me. Many other times i have searched google for useful websites, and their silly ai often starts by telling me what i know for fact is wrong, sometimes it gets around to telling me i am right, half-right, or verry wrong, along with other silly things. It is an amusing experiment; to ask a question, controversial or not, and watch google ai go schizoid on the progression of answers. It will often suggest websites which only have one word in common with one's query. AI gets in the way unless i am bored.
 
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Awritey, just retrieved my nnib wrangler, 3-3/4" birdshead. 99.99 on gb, without a cylinder (that they already sold-off for parts). Recently picked up a double handful of ruger cylinders at another shop which dident know they were rugers, nice and cheap, including a nice wrangler cylinder. The value of just one of the two 45acp cylinders exceeds what i paid for the lot.
So, now i find the 3-3/4" wrangler needs a shorter cylinder pin, or a new ejector rod head. Is this a thing, or an error?
 
Vaquero Montado 3 3/4" barrel cyl pin.

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The one i ebayed is also too long from block-pin to notch. Curiouser and curiouser. Most internet advice, even on the other ruger'site, is gerind the end off...i have made my own, for italien and early hrrs (its just a 1/4" rod) but that was easy enough. I could file a new cross-latch notch with a chainsaw file like before, but think i will chase the proper one this time.
 
The one i ebayed is also too long from block-pin to notch. Curiouser and curiouser. Most internet advice, even on the other ruger'site, is gerind the end off...i have made my own, for italien and early hrrs (its just a 1/4" rod) but that was easy enough. I could file a new cross-latch notch with a chainsaw file like before, but think i will chase the proper one this time.

Maybe the eBay part is for a mid-frame.

Wrangler base pin 3 1/16"

Mid-frame base pin 3 1/4"+

Both measured pin length only, not including the transfer bar plunger.
 
Yep, ol' partsbox has several plain nm pins, fits like factpry. Which means r&r erh for install, and need to grind down end to shorten it enough to remove cylinder. Will get to that next...Hella wayta go for a 99$ pistola.
 
To revisit; my pair of 22 steel hrr arrived a while back, and their "painted" finish seems to be just like the cerakote on my nice lil birdshead 3-1/2" wrangler, with the exception that the coating comes off the sharp corners heritage was finished with (there are no such sgarp corners on the lil wrangIer); the finish is called black satin, and unlike the blueing on all other hrrs i have observed to now.
And found a copy of Guns Of The Old West, summer 2014, where john rees also says the heritage 45 was assembled in florida with pietta parts, available in 38/357, 44-40, and 45 colt. But i still cannot find any further mention, nor even the few i found 20 years ago, about the steel 22 and 32 being imported from pietta, as parts or compleat.
So, john taffin, "la vista bill" bell, and john rees say, in print, the hrr 45s were assembled from pietta parts. I missed buying a 32 mag hrr last month because otr aint solidly consistent, pay-wise, but it dident say miami or bainbridge on the frame. Countinues to be a delightful mystery.
 

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