SR22 Burps shoots 3 at a time.

[Chi Town Charlie]

Shot my new SR22 and it burps, shoots ok then will shoot 3 all at once.
What could be the problem? I'm shooting with 25 magazines.
Has done this everytime.

 

[Kanook]

Change ammo. If it still does it, contact Ruger fast and send it in.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

I would call Ruger RIGHT NOW!

Really.

Do it.

:shock:

 

[DocGlock]

Do not take it out to shoot until Ruger gets this fixed. If the wrong person sees this happen, you will be taken in and locked up.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Yep. Has happened. Can't lay hands on it right now, but there was a news story a while back concerning a guy with a semi-auto rifle that "doubled" and/or "tripled" at a public range, and the BATF busted him big time for having an "automatic weapon". Made no difference that it was unintentional.

 

[Kanook]

and does it do it with factory mags also?

Cheap mags and cheap ammo could be the problem.

 

[Kanook]

That AR had been altered from factory specs.

The guy is still fighting it.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

If he knew the rifle was "altered" he deserves to be busted.

If he didn't know it was "altered", it's unfortunate he got busted but it proves my point: it's trouble waiting to happen.

Call Ruger.

 

[Quattroclick]

Don't shoot it anymore. Get it to a gunsmith or sent back to Ruger ASAP. Today! If you tangle with the BATF you might prove your innocence about the same time as you have exhausted every bit of money and property you have fighting it. Or not. Not worth the risk. Innocent until proven guilty sounds good until you have to pay for the lawyers that will be trying to keep you from being proven guilty.

From the sounds of it, a trigger job on a semi auto may not be a good move from a strictly legal standpoint.

 

[Kanook]

The guy borrowed the AR from a friend that had altered it, so that's why it still fighting.

Should you be concerned, yes

Should you hide under your bed afraid of black choppers, no

Clean the firearm, change ammo and mags. If it still does it then you know you have a problem.

When you're at the range, only put in 2 rounds in the mag. If it burps, stop using it and contact Ruger for a return. They will want to know if it has been altered. If anything has been changed, they might not touch it.

 

[Snake45]

I've had .22 semiauto rifles go FA, and in every case in my experience, a switch of ammo cured things completely. Have heard several other people say the same thing. Apparently it's not uncommon with .22s for something about the cycling rate of an ammo to do this. And it doesn't seem to be a problem with any particular gun or any particular kind of ammo, it's just something that happens from time to time with some particular combinations. Go to a hotter ammo, or a "cooler" one and see what happens.

If it does it with TWO different kinds of ammo--ANY two--you definitely have a gun problem that MUST be FIXED ASAP.

 

[Snake45]

Oh, another thing: Make sure your chamber is clean. With a .22, it's possible for the chamber to get so dirty that a round doesn't chamber cleanly and easily, and then the extractor acts as a fixed firing pin. This is particularly dangerous because it can happen with the round only halfway chambered--an "out of battery" ignition, which is LOUD and sends brass shrapnel out the ejection port (and also sometimes wrecks the magazine).

This isn't normally a problem with factory 10/22s, as they come from the factory with very generous chambers. But the SR22s seem to shoot more accurately than regular 10/22s, which leads me to believe they might have different barrel specs, including tighter chambers.

 

[Pinecone]

Sounds like the "disconnector" is not functioning correctly. I would definitely contact Ruger and send it back to them..................Dick :wink:

 

[FergusonTO35]

I've had Federal ammo slam fire in a couple of my autoloaders. It seems their priming is more sensitive than other brands.

 

[blume357]

Send it to me, I'd love a 'select' fire SR22! :)

 

[wetidlerjr]

The guy borrowed the AR from a friend that had altered it, so that's why it still fighting.
Should you be concerned, yes
Should you hide under your bed afraid of black choppers, no
Clean the firearm, change ammo and mags. If it still does it then you know you have a problem...

Exactly ! Hysteria serves no useful purpose.

 

[Leucoandro]

Actually, I read through the history of the event, and as far as I can tell he did not alter it. The rifle came from the factory with an M-16 bolt, but the unit was semi-auto only. (Apparently the manufacturer used some surplus M-16 parts to keep price of the unit down).

Because the bolt came from the M-16, it was designed to work with hard primers. Because of the M-16 bolt in the AR-15, it could slam-fire with sensitive primers. The wrong people saw that the firearm slam-fired, reported it to the BATF. The BATF determined that the unit had M-16 parts in it and treated it as if he had a Modified AR-15.

The manufacturer had instituted a recall on the bolt some time before the event occured, but (the best I can remember) the person that bought the firearm new had no idea about the recall.

The entire history is posted on the AR Forum. Included is scanned letters sent by the BATF.


Charlie

 

[Richbaker]

If he knew the rifle was "altered" he deserves to be busted.

If he didn't know it was "altered", it's unfortunate he got busted but it proves my point: it's trouble waiting to happen.

Call Ruger.

David Olofson... Google it. He's in jail and probably will be for awhile.

 

[Leucoandro]

Richbaker,

I have not kept of with the case since October 2009. Bad news for people that like Semi-auto's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB237rfvHys

The firearm was not modified. The firearm malfunctioned. From past reading I understand that the rifle had had would slam fire with certain ammunition. He allowed a friend to use the firearm knowing that it could malfunction in certain instances, so he was charged with transfering a machinegun when he allowed his frient to borrow the rifle.

The Judge in the case instructed the Jury that "any firearm by design or malfunction is a machine gun if it shoots more than one shot with one pull of the trigger". The Judge ignored precedent set by the SCOTUS (I Believe that it is a big no no for a lower judge to ignor precedent of a higher court--BBW what say you?).

So, if I understand this correctly, if you own a semi-auto, and someone borrows it, then fire enough rounds that it cooks off some rounds, you have just transfered a machine gun based on this courts ruling.


Charlie

 

[mohavesam]

Had a slam-fire problem with an brand-new AR-7 a couple decades back. It would burp out the remaining rounds if you yanked hard enough on the trigger. Fun to a teenager but an instant felony these days.

Ruger engineering needs to know about your SR22. Today. Send it back with prejudice.

 

[Chief 101]

My first 9mm pistol fired the first 9 round mag in rapid fire fashion so I took it apart and repaired the sear angle and she was fine. After that I never loaded a mag for a test run with a pistol, and, I was always ready for it to happen again with any semi-auto. Chief aka Maxx Load

 

[dacaur]

I've had .22 semiauto rifles go FA, and in every case in my experience, a switch of ammo cured things completely.

If it does it with TWO different kinds of ammo--ANY two--you definitely have a gun problem that MUST be FIXED ASAP.

If you have a gun that goes FA with ANY ammo, there is something wrong with it. Switching ammo is not the cure, it needs to go back to the mfg.

 

[Snake45]

I've had .22 semiauto rifles go FA, and in every case in my experience, a switch of ammo cured things completely.

If it does it with TWO different kinds of ammo--ANY two--you definitely have a gun problem that MUST be FIXED ASAP.

If you have a gun that goes FA with ANY ammo, there is something wrong with it. Switching ammo is not the cure, it needs to go back to the mfg.

Well, in this particular case, I'm going to respectfully disagree. Besides, some of the guns in question don't HAVE manufacturers anymore--went out of bidness decades ago.

If an ammo change fixes the problem, I don't HAVE a problem. :wink:

If you hang out at Rimfirecentral.com long enough, you'll see that this is not an unheard-of problem with .22 rifles, and it runs through just about all makes. Never had it happen with any .22 handgun, though. It's also very rare with 10/22s--they have one of the better records in this area.

 

[dacaur]

Justify it any way you like, but the ATF would definitely disagree with you.... If you have a gun that you know can go FA under any circumstances, you know you have a machine gun.

Machine gun. Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

If you want to take your chances go for it, but to act like its no big deal or "not uncommon" and try to lull others into thinking its no big deal is irresponsible. Yes it can happen, but its definitely not common, it is a BIG deal, and needs to be dealt with ASAP if it does happen, preferably by sending it back to the MFG. If the gun MFG no longer exists, and the gun cannot be fixed so it no longer goes full auto, it should be destroyed.... Sure, YOU think you know which ammo makes it dangerous (pretty unlikely that it will do it with only ONE ammo.. though possible only one of the ammos you have tried), but what happens when someone else gets ahold of it?

The OP needs to send his gun in to ruger before firing another shot.

 

[blume357]

Think about it this way.... even though this is more political than having to do with the original post...

how can our government and justice system put you in jail for year for not paying a $200 tax?

I've owed our government (IRS) an average of a thousand to two thousand dollars for the last couple of years... they can not put me in jail for this... only at the worse put a lean on my property.

but they can put you in jail for not paying a $200 tax?

 

[phishisgroovin]

i wouldnt waste another minute thinking about solving the issue, i would be on the phone with Ruger and asking for an RMA and explain it to them what the problem is.
They will repair or replace your firearm.

 

[Chi Town Charlie]

Went to Winchesters no problems now, shoots great. :D

 

[Fox Mike]

Went to Winchesters no problems now, shoots great. :D

Something still isn't right if it does it at all. Take the advise of those that know...(not necessarily me) call Ruger.

 

[Bucks Owin]

Oh, another thing: Make sure your chamber is clean. With a .22, it's possible for the chamber to get so dirty that a round doesn't chamber cleanly and easily, and then the extractor acts as a fixed firing pin. This is particularly dangerous because it can happen with the round only halfway chambered--an "out of battery" ignition, which is LOUD and sends brass shrapnel out the ejection port (and also sometimes wrecks the magazine).

This isn't normally a problem with factory 10/22s, as they come from the factory with very generous chambers. But the SR22s seem to shoot more accurately than regular 10/22s, which leads me to believe they might have different barrel specs, including tighter chambers.

You could be onto something pard. I have a "semi match" chamber in my A&B heavy barrel and it's doubled one time and fired out of battery one time. Since that's all, out of many thousand of rds, I'm not particularly concerned and likely it was ammo/residue related... :?

(BTW, when I'm in the mood for shooting tiny groups, I use Wolf M/T and then I generally don't clean very often. The slick lube off the bullets, when left in the barrel, seems to be somewhat beneficial to accuracy. But maybe a switch to Fed bulk etc afterwards contributed ??? Just a thought... :wink: )