SOLD Smith & Wesson model 25-5

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thanks for the kinds words, I think? Mr. Contender. most of mine are self infected. I post something for sale, I get caught in bad weather 400 or 500 miles away from home, or guideing Brown Bear or Moose hunter or stuck at the lodge, my few days of down time to get things shipped truns into a month. im am thankful for the understanding, I think my trusted word is good on here. I've really only had two bad experiences on here. one my fault. the other was on the shipping co. and an ignorant buyer that could not understand that its out of my control after I ship it. I still know his name. zero more transactions for him ever again. but yet he tries...lol
I purchased parts from you and wouldn’t hesitate to do so again and likely will when the need arises down the road.
 
@mr.deerstalker is a right guy in my book. Another reason a transaction rating system for the marketplace would be a good idea.
Do not feed his ego!! @mr.deerstalker is one of the worst enablers on this site!!!!

I actually haven't bought anything from him yet (not that I would hesitate to do so), but I did buy from another member. USPS lost the first MO I sent, they happened to find it and deliver it the day after the second MO arrived. I got 'lucky", 1 the seller was understanding, 2 he had another gun that I had been on the fence about for the same price. I just told him that fate had decided I needed both and to ship them out.
 
I hope that solution ends with you getting the 25-5. I know this has been a bit of a mess, but all our hopes are that it ends well for both parties. As a fellow owner of a 25-5 i doubt you will be disappointed.

TDF
 
No the pistol has not shipped. He said there was some kind of miscommunication and the pistol did not head my way. We are making arrangements for the refund via a postal money order. I advised him I'd let you all know so as not to screw up his rep here on the forum.
To be continued...
 
Now I'm really confused. Did you want the gun or not? I get the seller being sick and perhaps a delay in shipping but to never get around to sending it but now issuing a refund. Across the street we woukd call that a Welch. I guess if you're okay with it, but this saga just keeps getting more bizarre. As for the sellers rep, I think it would be more meaningful if he set the record straight.
I wanted the pistol but for whatever reason he doesn't have one.
 
To me every post in this thread underscores the need for and the value of a transaction rating system. Marketplace threads are deleted after 30 days. If someone buys or sells infrequently they will likely have no recent threads, and if they do, there may not have been any feedback.
If there were a rating thread, members judgements about a transaction would follow both parties, and even if every transaction did not result in feedback, enough would to give an idea about the "transaction worthiness" of the member.
If things seem to be going sideways because of sudden illness or something else, a positive rating score could provide reassurance and from that patience rather than panic.
 
So I've been following this out of curiosity.....the "seller" is on another forum I frequent. Same pic but slightly different forum name. On the other forum he is a premium member in good standing, and as for seller rating his is excellent. He's been a member there since 2002. I have a feeling the "seller" here is not him and there is criminal element in play.
 
I'll add this although may ruffle some feathers

forum owners generally profit from membership traffic, ads, etc.

if the joining of parties that ends in a sour deal originated in a forum, those owners have a duty to intervene on behalf of members acting in good faith

While this sounds good in theory. The forum owners/participants have ZERO power to enforce anything. The worst they can do is ban the member.

It's really no different than watching a theft on the street or in a business. Maybe you should intervene, but you really have no authority or power to do so.
 
I've sat quietly watching up to this point but now it's difficult not to speak out

I can understand all sorts of reasons a gun may not be sold, shipped, let go of, etc.

but it's purely inexcusable not to return someone's money promptly, especially after determining nothing is going to be shipped. period.

trader ratings do work
A rating system or any other measure you take won't prevent issues with a hacked account.

I only choose to buy from members I know or am familiar with.

I always avoid newbies until they pan out.

While I wouldn't consider my feathers ruffled, I do understand that as a grown adult, the outcome of any transactions is on me. I buy and sell here at my own risk.

You have the freedom to do the same or choose not to participate in that part of the forum.

It ain't hard.
 
While this sounds good in theory. The forum owners/participants have ZERO power to enforce anything. The worst they can do is ban the member.

It's really no different than watching a theft on the street or in a business. Maybe you should intervene, but you really have no authority or power to do so.
forum owners have access to user registration information, login information, ip address activity, etc.

forum owners certainly have the authority to reach out to a user for verification it's actually them, explanation of suspected foul play or criminal activity, etc.

I'm not saying they aren't doing any of this, just that it doesn't appear so based on what's posted in this thread
 
Then why hasnt the forum member posted in this thread "hey guys this aint me! My account got hijacked!"
Well maybe he doesn't get on here much or at all. I belong to a couple forums I haven't been on in years, which is probably exposing myself to being preyed upon. Not to mention there is no profile for him here anymore.

If his account was hijacked, he may not have it back. @XUSNORDIE can you try to DM him on the other forum and see if he is locked out?

I did. I had little interaction with him on that forum, however he appeared to be well respected older gentleman. I believe he was wheel chair bound but still very active in shooting. We will see if he responds......I'm usually not very active there until Spring but I will check and get back to y'all here.
 
forum owners have access to user registration information, login information, ip address activity, etc.

forum owners certainly have the authority to reach out to a user for verification it's actually them, explanation of suspected foul play or criminal activity, etc.

I'm not saying they aren't doing any of this, just that it doesn't appear so based on what's posted in this thread

They may have some helpful capabilities but they have no POWER beyond controlling access to their website.
 
I lost $250 on this forum last month. The member was banned and I was told the member was using multiple VPN's.
No other information was given to me. I asked for a copy of all known IP addresses, or any other pertinent info, but so far I haven't received anything from the forum owners.
I want to see if I can find this SOB, but all I have is an email address.
 
I lost $250 on this forum last month. The member was banned and I was told the member was using multiple VPN's.
No other information was given to me. I asked for a copy of all known IP addresses, or any other pertinent info, but so far I haven't received anything from the forum owners.
I want to see if I can find this SOB, but all I have is an email address.
There are no records of you asking for this information via email or PM.
That said, we do not release this information to the public, and only under court order to do so.

We highly recommend only using traceable and trackable methods for payments to folks.

This thread is posted, and I highly recommend all read it as a refresher:
https://www.rugerforum.com/threads/rules-for-posting-classifieds.306208/
This is also another reminder to ALL:
  • Keep your email address updated, so you are notified when your password, or other items are changed in your account.
  • Change your password often using a password manager.
  • Use 2 Step Authentication, along with keeping backup codes.
If this makes you uneasy, I would recommend not doing transactions, but again, always be careful with folks online.
 
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