Single Six .22LR/mag. Cylinders

[BRL]

I'll try to get straight to the point to keep this question as short as I can.

So I got an OM Super Single Six, that came with the magnum cylinder only.

Wanted a .22LR cylinder, and heard that somebody else's used one may not fit.

Called Ruger, and (I believe for legal reasons) all they could tell me is that my original & the new cylinder they would fit, would be setup for the transfer bar system.

Sounded to me like (possibly) re-cutting racthet teeth and the added parts (pawl-hand-latch-whatever) may prevent me from returning the gun to OM original configuration. :shock:

So now what should I do?

Does this belong in the Ruger-smithing section?

 

[rugerguy]

they fit the cylinder to the gun, NOT the other way around, they will do nothing to change,alter, the existing fitting EXCEPT add and "fit" a 'safety update (transfer bar & parts) to your 'old model'..........
yes, if you can find and try an already "fitted" (used) cylinder for a 'like' model you may use it, after you check it out for timing and lockup...
"safety FIRST........."

Good luck

 

[contender]

Ok, let's look at all you are wondering about.
First, quite often, a properly matching cylinder, (OM) can be a simple drop in fit, even if it's from another gun. HOWEVER, we ALL advise anyone to get a gunsmith to make sure it's properly timed so as to prevent lead shaving etc. The biggest thing to look for is a cylinder that is close to the same OAL of your existing cylinder. You can buy one a little longer & flat file the clyinder boss just enough to allow proper fitting. So if you try & buy one used, you'd need to measure the OAL of your cylinder & look for one that size, or maybe .001 smaller or a few thousands longer. As for the rachet etc, MOST do function just fine, and the timing is a non-issue. But a gunsmith checking it is the best bet for safety.
Ruger will add a cylinder to your gun, fitted & timed, AND do the safety conversion. The safety conversion is mandatory for any OM that goes in for service of any kind. But, I've never heard of Ruger re-cutting rachet teeth etc on any OM. You should be able to return the gun to it's OM configuration easily UNLESS your original parts are worn. Some folks who send Ruger a gun for service will remove the OM parts before shipping, (including any special grips,) so as to insure they get to keep their proper parts for that gun.
I have found several OM's over the years missing the "spare" cylinder. I have been able to find used ones that fit & function just fine with very little if any fitting required. I do not hesitate to buy any OM cylinders anytime I find them at a reasonable price.
JMO!

 

[BRL]

Thanks for the replies guys!

I"m thinking that for proper timing, headspace, barrel/cylinder gap, alignment, ect. that I would like to send Ruger the gun and take my chances that way.

I'm just going to take off the hammer & trigger, stainless parts, grips... :roll: Ruger's going to end up with a cylinder & frame...HA!

Just kidding...somewhat.

Hey rugerguy, my Flattop needed a baby brother! :D

 

[Hondo44]

Thanks for the replies guys!

I"m thinking that for proper timing, headspace, barrel/cylinder gap, alignment, ect. that I would like to send Ruger the gun and take my chances that way.

I'm just going to take off the hammer & trigger, stainless parts, grips... :roll: Ruger's going to end up with a cylinder & frame...HA!

Just kidding...somewhat.

Hey rugerguy, my Flattop needed a baby brother! :D

Nice pair! Remove the ears around the rear sight on the 22 and replace the front sight with a new model single six front sight and you'll truly have a pair of twins.

My NM siblings, 38-40 and 22:

 

[rugerguy]

Nice jobs guys, we like them ALL !!!
as for the Ruger service, we've send them a bag of "parts" and told them to do what it needed and they did, after all they built it in the first place and can certainly put it all back together and 'add' the parts it may need and YOU KNOW the job will be done right........go for it

 

[BRL]

[Nice pair! Remove the ears around the rear sight on the 22 and replace the front sight with a new model single six front sight and you'll truly have a pair of twins...

My NM siblings, 38-40 and 22:

HONDO44...YOU !@&^%$! :twisted:

Do you have any idea how tempted I was to turn my innocent little .22 into a Flattop with cosmetic surgery!

But I'm not going to...Because:

1. That would take me forever with needle files & sandpaper.

2. I'm afraid that to keep the "flat" portion truly "flat", I might end up cutting into the rear sight "cross pin" channel.

3. There is only minor bluing wear on the muzzle & cylinder, and in order for it to look right, it would have to be completly refinished. $$$

4. Called Ruger, and they said that if I did that, THEY WOULDN'T TOUCH IT WITH A 10 FOOT POLE! :x

Seriously though...GREAT IDEA! :D

These old eyes like the sharp top edge of the front sight, but it does have a small burr, and should replaced with a new one...hmmmmm.

We think alike...SCARY!

Nice NM siblings!

 

[Hondo44]

2. I'm afraid that to keep the "flat" portion truly "flat", I might end up cutting into the rear sight "cross pin" channel.

4. Called Ruger, and they said that if I did that, THEY WOULDN'T TOUCH IT WITH A 10 FOOT POLE! :x

We think alike...SCARY!
Nice NM siblings!

Yeah, very scary!
2. The .22 rib removal does come too close to the pin on some, OK on others. No problem on the large frames.
4. So Ruger wouldn't touch a gun with the ribs removed, huh? That seems strange...any reason given? Couldn't be strength, the frame would be no thinner than the front section or than a flat top model.

 

[BRL]

The .22 rib removal does come too close to the pin on some, OK on others. No problem on the large frames.
4. So Ruger wouldn't touch a gun with the ribs removed, huh? That seems strange...any reason given? Couldn't be strength, the frame would be no thinner than the front section or than a flat top model.

No reason given.
The nice lady in the tech. dept. asked her sup. and came back to say "No go."

It certianly wouldn't hurt Bill Ruger's .22 rimfire frame!

I've seen .44 magnums with thinner top straps! (just made that up) :lol:

If it wasn't for the location of that pin hole, and refinishing costs, I wait until it came back with the new cylinder and... :wink:

Keep those ideas coming Hondo44!