Sheriff's Cowboy Hats

caryc

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I see the sheriffs dept. is switching to cowboy hats. I think it's great. I like the look. After all they are Sheriff's Deputies. They've already switched in Hemet Calif.

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Ahhhhhhhhhh yea But this ain't Dodge City and you ain't Wyatt Earp. :D :D

Yea I wore one when I was a Ft. Bend County Reserve Deputy. They are a PITA getting in and out of cars and in the wind. among other things.
 
You think they are a pain in a car you ought to wear one when your loading horses or mules in a trailer and tying them off! I promise you it won’t have it on your head.
 
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And let's face it . . . some folks just look silly in a cowboy hat, particularly if it's a "one style fits all" department.

A ten-gallon hat on a two-quart head is hilarious.

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There's a show about Northwest Game Wardens. Any time you see them in their vehicles you can see their hats on little wire racks that look like they attach to the back windows.

It's just a wire loop that you lay the inverted hat in. There are all kinds of those hat racks on Amazon.
 
caryc said:
There's a show about Northwest Game Wardens. Any time you see them in their vehicles you can see their hats on little wire racks that look like they attach to the back windows.

It's just a wire loop that you lay the inverted hat in. There are all kinds of those hat racks on Amazon.

I had one of those in my pickup about 40 years ago , the one I had screwed up thru the head liner into the steel cab support and had a spring loaded hinge, just pull it down , flip your hat in it and let it go
 
Personally, I like it,, but I can see issues occasionally. And as noted,, not everybody looks good in one,, nor will "one size fit all."
BUT,, just like the firearms,, I think a department SHOULD allow the option,, and encourage similar headgear. In my son's dept. (He's in the County Sheriff Dept.) they are allowed to carry their choice of B/U guns,, as long as they qualify with it. My son is qualified with several,,,,!
And hats are often a personal choice of many. The Texas Rangers mostly wear cowboy hats & it's recognized by most as such. And there are times a ball cap is preferred.
In my local Lake Lure Dept,, no headgear is mandated,, but I do see some of them in ball caps.
 
As long as they don't like like that plastic cowboy hat that Tim McGraw wears they're ok.
 
bogus bill said:
The reason they roll the sides up is so three guys can ride together in a pickup.

Three men in a pickup. How do you discern the real cowboy?












He's the one in the middle. He doesn't have to drive, and he doesn't have to fool with the gate.

(From Michael Martin Murphy.)


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Ive worn one for 30 years..I prefer a silverbelly color, but those dont stay clean for a long. I keep a copy of Miranda rights in the sweatband of mine . In the spring time its a challenge to keep your straw hat on during a windy west Texas sandstorm, but we manage...Also nothing wrong with a stampede string on a straw hat, if you believe otherwise, my buddy will take issue with that . Hes only been cowboying his whole life, and he admits its handy........BTW a real vaqueros sombrero always has a stampede string!!!
 
mexicanjoe said:
Ive worn one for 30 years..I prefer a silverbelly color, but those dont stay clean for a long. I keep a copy of Miranda rights in the sweatband of mine . In the spring time its a challenge to keep your straw hat on during a windy west Texas sandstorm, but we manage...Also nothing wrong with a stampede string on a straw hat, if you believe otherwise, my buddy will take issue with that . Hes only been cowboying his whole life, and he admits its handy........BTW a real vaqueros sombrero always has a stampede string!!!

I've always thought the sombrero was a cool looking hat. Below is Ceasar Denovo as Baranca from the Rifleman. I like the outfits they wear with the short jackets. I like the outfits they wear in Mariachi bands.

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I have worn Stetson felt hats with 5 inch brims for over 65 years, on duty and off duty as Undersheriff and Chief of Police, except for some times in the summer when I sometimes wear my Bailey U-Roll-it hat. I have four Stetsons, the oldest about 40 years old. All have been cleaned and re-blocked a number of times. My best Stetson is about 20 years old that I only wear for "good events" when I need to wear my best clothes such as a suit. It has been cleaned and re-blocked only once and still looks new.

By the way, I believe that anyone who has trouble keeping a hat, such as a Stetson, on during windy days, is not wearing a hat that fits. As an LEO and cattle rancher since 1960, I can't remember my hat blowing off in the wind anytime when I was on horse back, on foot, or driving an open tractor. When the wind is blowing I do make sure my hat is secure on my head by gently tucking the hat with thumb and finger on the front of the brim on my forehead before getting in the wind. I don't ride any bucking horses any more but in years past my hats stayed on even when on the hurricane deck of a bronc.

I learned years ago that a good 5X to 7X Beaver Fur felt Stetson will probably out last me provided I take care of it, have it cleaned and re-blocked when needed. Stetson makes up to a 10X hat, I believe, but I have never owned one since I never felt the need to mortgage the ranch to buy one. Just make sure your hat is a good beaver fur felt and you should be happy with it.
 
I like a western hat, but not the modern shovel nose type posted by the OP.

I like the style John Wayne wore in the movie, The Sons of Katie Elder. I've heard the style referred to as a Tycoon or Broker style hat.

I also like a decent cattleman's crease, but they are so common as to be boring to my eye.

A "Gus" crease reminds me of true old western style. The old Stetson Boss of the Plains has a great look to it as well.
 
A western wear was going out of business and I bought this "Tom Mix stetson very cheap and gave it to a nephew. Right after that he died so I took it back. I never had nerve to wear it out in public.
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Rancher Will said:
I have worn Stetson felt hats with 5 inch brims for over 65 years, on duty and off duty as Undersheriff and Chief of Police, except for some times in the summer when I sometimes wear my Bailey U-Roll-it hat. I have four Stetsons, the oldest about 40 years old. All have been cleaned and re-blocked a number of times. My best Stetson is about 20 years old that I only wear for "good events" when I need to wear my best clothes such as a suit. It has been cleaned and re-blocked only once and still looks new.

By the way, I believe that anyone who has trouble keeping a hat, such as a Stetson, on during windy days, is not wearing a hat that fits. As an LEO and cattle rancher since 1960, I can't remember my hat blowing off in the wind anytime when I was on horse back, on foot, or driving an open tractor. When the wind is blowing I do make sure my hat is secure on my head by gently tucking the hat with thumb and finger on the front of the brim on my forehead before getting in the wind. I don't ride any bucking horses any more but in years past my hats stayed on even when on the hurricane deck of a bronc.

I learned years ago that a good 5X to 7X Beaver Fur felt Stetson will probably out last me provided I take care of it, have it cleaned and re-blocked when needed. Stetson makes up to a 10X hat, I believe, but I have never owned one since I never felt the need to mortgage the ranch to buy one. Just make sure your hat is a good beaver fur felt and you should be happy with it.

While a good Stetson 7x, 5x or even 3x from the 50s to 60s may indeed last forever with proper care, you won't find the same to be true today. Those designations mean just about nothing now and my best guess says they have very little to no beaver fur felt in their mix. Unless a Stetson is actually sold as 100% or pure beaver fur felt, then it is more likely rabbit, buffalo, wool or some blend of two or three of those.

After buying new hats, I gave up on size/fit, and quality and sold them off. Now I buy vintage hats or custom hats. My collection of hats has gone from over 100 down to about 60 at present, and that includes fur felt and hand woven panama straw hats from Ecuador. Sometimes a fella gets lucky and finds a ca. 1950s Stetson 7X pure beaver for $30 at a thrift shop, but usually not.

Stetson does sell a 100X western hat now, but I would advise against wasting your money. It's much better to find a reputable hatter to make you a pure beaver hat that fits perfectly and is of excellent quality.

For Christmas I ordered myself a last custom fedora from now retired hatter Art Fawcett of Vintage Silhouettes in Central Point, OR. Pure beaver fur felt in a small batch felt color called Glacier, a light grey some subtle blue undertones. Art finished it with a 1-inch "steel" ribbon and a light splash of Silverbelly highlight in the bow-keep. It came open crown and I put a center crease in it with fairly tight front side pinches.

The pics are crap, I know, but it's all I feel like I can manage presently as I had a pituitary tumor removed on the 17th... still dealing with post-op headaches and nausea, along with wacked out hormone levels.

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Tenbore said:
What's the deal with the flat front brim fad. Looks really stupid.

I really don't look like that either. I also think it looks stupid. The worst ones I've seen are the rodeo bull riders like the one pictured below. Although I think any guy willing to climb on the back of one of those critters gets a pass to look as stupid as he wants with me.

Next, I expect they will be hanging those miracle visors on those hats. You know, the ones where you see the eagle that's not there.

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I kinda like the look of a Western hat on some people. But I think I'd look foolish in one. Besides it's a lot easier to take off my helmet and pull a ball cap out of my motorcycle's saddle bag. Baseball caps give some decent eye protection in bright sum and don't take up much room.

I got a good laugh a few months ago. There was a kid who came out of a burger joint into the bright sun and was shading his eyes with his hand to see if the pedestrian light was on so he could cross the street. He was wearing a ball cap... backwards.
 
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