I have a new friend, my PC Carbine. I mounted a see through .75 inch riser and looking through it to acquire my front sight looks like a house of mirrors. The riser is a UTG and its is very shiny in the see through tunnel. Anyone have a fix for this. I tried spraying flat black paint down the tunnel, then tried painting it with a dull coat enamel. This did not work out well. I would surely appreciate any help I can get on this. Thanks all.
See Through Scope Risers
- Thread starter kcmitch
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Sagebrush Burns
Single-Sixer
Best advice is to get rid of the see through scope mounts. If you're thinking you'll use the iron sights with some frequency, get some sort of quick detachable set-up.
pisgah
Buckeye
I suppose everybody has tried 'em at one time or another -- they look like SUCH a good idea. But the main thing they do is make both iron sights and scope harder to use.
miniman
Blackhawk
we called those see thru mounts game savers back in the 80s.
"Plus, they're more fragile (apt to get knocked askew)."
\While some are, many on the market are fairly robust. I have no use for the "see-thru" idea except for use on an AR platform. For my use, this additional height is just right and the hollow cross section reduces weight over a solid chunk of metal.
For a pistol caliber carbine, a very low X scope or dot optic is all that's needed. Either is as easily used as the open sights anyway and the failure rate of this sort of optic is extremely low.
\While some are, many on the market are fairly robust. I have no use for the "see-thru" idea except for use on an AR platform. For my use, this additional height is just right and the hollow cross section reduces weight over a solid chunk of metal.
For a pistol caliber carbine, a very low X scope or dot optic is all that's needed. Either is as easily used as the open sights anyway and the failure rate of this sort of optic is extremely low.
contender
Ruger Guru
if your new friend, the PC carbine is an AR type,, may I suggest what I see often in USPSA RC competition? Many mount an offset sight set on one side or the other to allow the use of a scope, and/or a red dot all at the same time. the scope is for longer range shots, while the offset is used in closer. It's a simple shift to cant the carbine to one side & use the different sight.
Used quite effectively by serious (winning) competitors.
Used quite effectively by serious (winning) competitors.
mohavesam
Hawkeye
Agreed with the above comments. The see thru punts are an old idea that never quite solved any real-life problem. So I would not consider them practical for any real-life task.
My PC is not the AR style so really anything on the rail blocks the front sights. I really appreciate all the advice here, good stuff. I guess I'll humble myself and follow it. Its one or the other, iron sights or optics. Of course i could use Snake45's advice and use a quick release set up. Any way, thanks again. Happy shooting everyone
bogus bill
Hunter
Someone used to make a swing over scope mount many years ago. Seems I had one, probably still do somewhere. Scope swings up and over to use the open sights.
As others said, see through scope rings are a bad idea. It places the scope to high to get a correct cheek weld on the stock, And a tunnel to see through under it which blocks part of the field of view among other things.
The swing mount/rings, weaver had that idea, maybe others. I mounted many a scope for several years at a gun shop. In the fall it was almost a full time job. With both of the above mentioned I tried to talk the person out of buying. Sometimes the customer never listens to good solid advice. The weaver swing was keep in place only by a spring steel indent at 2 points. So, it could be grabbed and rotated off the side. Nothing like firing your 3006 at a deer or elk and the scope flops over due to the recoil. Mostly the scope mount kept the iron sights covered for there use, depending on the rifle. Bad idea. I think they were taken off the market in the 1970s.
The swing mount/rings, weaver had that idea, maybe others. I mounted many a scope for several years at a gun shop. In the fall it was almost a full time job. With both of the above mentioned I tried to talk the person out of buying. Sometimes the customer never listens to good solid advice. The weaver swing was keep in place only by a spring steel indent at 2 points. So, it could be grabbed and rotated off the side. Nothing like firing your 3006 at a deer or elk and the scope flops over due to the recoil. Mostly the scope mount kept the iron sights covered for there use, depending on the rifle. Bad idea. I think they were taken off the market in the 1970s.
pete44ru
Hunter
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For me, see-thru scope mounts & barrel-mounted peepsights fall into the "an abomination on rifles" category.
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For me, see-thru scope mounts & barrel-mounted peepsights fall into the "an abomination on rifles" category.
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I probably won't use the riser, but I did fix the mirror imaging in it. :idea: I took Gaffer Tape and made narrow strips, just the size of the sides and bottom and top of the inside. I was able to pull it through on the end of a small dowel, then stick it to the surface. Absolutely no reflections inside now. Just thought I'd pass it on for what it's worth, which is not much! :roll:
Thanks again for all the help, really some nice folks on this forum. Take care, have a safe weekend.
Thanks again for all the help, really some nice folks on this forum. Take care, have a safe weekend.
