Looking for comparisons to the Henry or Armalite, though the Ruger is a semi. ANY input is greatly appreciated as I am in decision making mode.
Ruger semi auto .22 takedown
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I own the Henry and the Ruger. Both have been 100% reliable up to this point although I haven't shot either one all that much. I think they both have a place. The Henry is lighter and much easier to transport such as shoving it in your backpack, just has a smaller footprint. The Ruger is in a whole other class, just better build quality and I am more accurate with it. I like them both.
All 3 shown are decent and suitable for the intended purpose. They are not fine target grade weapons but they shoot with fair accuracy and in the case of the Henry AR7 and Ruger 10-22 takedown you have more than one shot.
I have kept a Henry AR7 in my truck for years and it's always been ready when needed. There are good carrying cases available and they keep everything in a neat package. Kept out of sight under or behind a seat makes it something you can depend on if you ever have need of it.
I have kept a Henry AR7 in my truck for years and it's always been ready when needed. There are good carrying cases available and they keep everything in a neat package. Kept out of sight under or behind a seat makes it something you can depend on if you ever have need of it.
I kept a Charter Arms version of the AR-7 as my Jeep gun for decades. The one time I needed it, it just seemed so small. Still it convinced the three miscreants that trying to take my Jeep was a bad idea.
I set about finding something better. And, in the process created "The Perfect Jeep Gun". A modified Mossberg 500 in .410.
Shown with the AR-7 for size comparison.
The Mossberg is still very compact when broken down and as fast or possibly faster to assemble. And, once assembled considerably more versatile with everything from small shot to slugs available.
And those slugs, especially self defense specific types, are much more confident inspiring when dealing with humans.
I set about finding something better. And, in the process created "The Perfect Jeep Gun". A modified Mossberg 500 in .410.
Shown with the AR-7 for size comparison.
The Mossberg is still very compact when broken down and as fast or possibly faster to assemble. And, once assembled considerably more versatile with everything from small shot to slugs available.
And those slugs, especially self defense specific types, are much more confident inspiring when dealing with humans.
GasGuzzler
Hunter
My .22 take down is a 74 year old 39A. 
Uncle Howie
Buckeye
10/22TD case seems excessively large, to me.
Skinner Sights sells one nice option for takedown firearms.
Not "super" padded, but decent:
skinnersights.com
Skinner Sights sells one nice option for takedown firearms.
Not "super" padded, but decent:
"Flat Take Down" Case
This one is SO SLIM AND TRIM its WONDERFUL!!! When you first look at this case you think..."How did they do that???" NO ZIPPERS to break, wear out, or scratch your gun!This case incorporates a "Magic" inner padded barrier to separate the two halves of your takedown gun. The two halves complement...
skinnersights.com
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The 10-22 is really in a different class. The AR-7s mentioned were really made to be US GI survival firearms. The 10-22 not so much. Just a carbine in take down form.
So, what's the reason or purpose you want any of those?
The AR-7 has a steel sleeve inside aluminum barrel, aluminum receiver. Crappy sights, trigger not so good on any I have handled. Its purpose is light weight compact semi auto rimfire. Great to carry in a snow mobile, boat, bush plane or off road vehicle. In my opinion not made for much plinking and range fun. But as any firearm it is used for that by some.
The 10-22 is like other 10-22s in take down form. If you want, you can upgrade just about anything on the 10-22. Shoot it as much as you want. Myself, I have 1 in plastic stock and SS metal.
It shoots as good as any other 10-22. I put upgraded trigger parts, recoil spring in it. Added a 2x7 RF vortex scope and threaded the barrel. I have a suppressor on it. It came in a Ruger take down bag and rides in my Hummer, pickup and off-road buggy as a spare firearm. When just shooting .22s it goes to the range with others and gets fired a lot.
So, what's the reason or purpose you want any of those?
The AR-7 has a steel sleeve inside aluminum barrel, aluminum receiver. Crappy sights, trigger not so good on any I have handled. Its purpose is light weight compact semi auto rimfire. Great to carry in a snow mobile, boat, bush plane or off road vehicle. In my opinion not made for much plinking and range fun. But as any firearm it is used for that by some.
The 10-22 is like other 10-22s in take down form. If you want, you can upgrade just about anything on the 10-22. Shoot it as much as you want. Myself, I have 1 in plastic stock and SS metal.
It shoots as good as any other 10-22. I put upgraded trigger parts, recoil spring in it. Added a 2x7 RF vortex scope and threaded the barrel. I have a suppressor on it. It came in a Ruger take down bag and rides in my Hummer, pickup and off-road buggy as a spare firearm. When just shooting .22s it goes to the range with others and gets fired a lot.
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The AR7 floats in its case if that is a benefit in your situation.
The 10/22 isn't as compact when broken down, but a much more capable gun when deployed. Stainless, reliable, affordable. It's a great gun.
The Marlin 39 is a full size rifle that breaks in half.
I took the picture from skinner's site. @Uncle Howie mentioned Only because it is one of my favorite rifles. A 39 centennial being a mountie carbine is much shorter than a standard 39. It would be an excellent choice except for its cost.
I guess it depends on where you are storing it and how nice of a rifle you want to use.
Does it have to be a .22? The KelTec sub 2000 9mm carbine folds in half very compact takes common pistol magazines
The 10/22 isn't as compact when broken down, but a much more capable gun when deployed. Stainless, reliable, affordable. It's a great gun.
The Marlin 39 is a full size rifle that breaks in half.
I took the picture from skinner's site. @Uncle Howie mentioned Only because it is one of my favorite rifles. A 39 centennial being a mountie carbine is much shorter than a standard 39. It would be an excellent choice except for its cost.
I guess it depends on where you are storing it and how nice of a rifle you want to use.
Does it have to be a .22? The KelTec sub 2000 9mm carbine folds in half very compact takes common pistol magazines
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OP
THANK YOU!
OP
My purpose might be considered self-defense- hiking in non-standard places. I need more than one shot and an ability to stick it inside my pack. As far as your AR-7, it sort of sounds like the Charter Arms version? Is that correct?
OP
Thank you ALL for your replies. I have learned a lot. Now I just have to hold both in my hands.
OP
That Mossberg looks sweet. While I don't have it in a breakdown, I do have it in the Shockwave version. Not a bad compromise....I kept a Charter Arms version of the AR-7 as my Jeep gun for decades. The one time I needed it, it just seemed so small. Still it convinced the three miscreants that trying to take my Jeep was a bad idea.
I set about finding something better. And, in the process created "The Perfect Jeep Gun". A modified Mossberg 500 in .410.
Shown with the AR-7 for size comparison.
The Mossberg is still very compact when broken down and as fast or possibly faster to assemble. And, once assembled considerably more versatile with everything from small shot to slugs available.
And those slugs, especially self defense specific types, are much more confident inspiring when dealing with humans.
The Henry AR7 is much better than the Charter Arms version of 50 years ago. It's a purpose built firearm and reliable with the correct ammunition.
Try different loads until you find one that works and then use that particular round exclusively.
It also helps to buy extra magazines for it. I have had good luck with mine and think it is a dependable little rifle
Try different loads until you find one that works and then use that particular round exclusively.
It also helps to buy extra magazines for it. I have had good luck with mine and think it is a dependable little rifle
The Shockwave is a baby "Who Dat"!! I knew a migrant worker when I was a kid who called a pump shotgun a "Who Dat"... He said when you pump it you holler Who Dat!!
I sold some Charter arms AR-7s never owned anything built like those. The Charter Arms I sold many came back with problems. I used the AR-7 as a cover for all those rifles that look like that.
I guess in your wants, any you listed will work. Weight might be the deciding factor. You might consider if the factory sights on any are good enough for you. Or do you want better, a dot or scope? Then can you mount what you want on the gun. Magazines and ammo do you want to carry XX amount in spare mags or not. What size of mag capacity is what you want. Accuracy or a crisp breaking trigger might not be a priority.
Thinking about the US Survival, all the works in the buttstock. Now Henry?
The most important thing, is it now reliable for function? The ones offered in the past by other makers were not. Maybe just me,,,, but it could fit in my back pocket, or be nearly free, but if they don't feed, fire & eject reliably they mean nothing in my book. Neat concept.
The most important thing, is it now reliable for function? The ones offered in the past by other makers were not. Maybe just me,,,, but it could fit in my back pocket, or be nearly free, but if they don't feed, fire & eject reliably they mean nothing in my book. Neat concept.
